Strange About Deerhounds

[Maximus Ferret 2,064]

She might yet do no 4 on your list though she'll need to learn how. Mines not keen on killing foxes either. She'll bowl them over, grab their tail and generally play about. I don't mind that too much either as foxes aren't my thing. Only want what I can eat.

[jigsaw 11,900]

 

DLM I have a better animal lol.,almost 3 yrs old.I just want an all round fun type lurcher that'll scare a hare ,run a rabbit ,flip a fox and possibly scare a deer lol (sorry couldnt resist once i started ).Shes a grand oul dog to have about in fairness but she aint up to the main mutts standard..big soft old girl she is.My lady took one bite and thought ''feck that'' and removed herself from the vicinity,she then had oppertunity no.2 shortly after and never entered the foray,dont think she ever will

Lol me too, is it saluki blooded!

 

yep

[jigsaw 11,900]

She might yet do no 4 on your list though she'll need to learn how. Mines not keen on killing foxes either. She'll bowl them over, grab their tail and generally play about. I don't mind that too much either as foxes aren't my thing. Only want what I can eat.

yeah,she'll defo scare em,lol

[downsview 448]

Saw a couple of platt bred bitches take fallow only a doe but each of them had put plenty of roe in the freezer single handed that was about 15 years ago in ashdown forest,but the most outstanding dogs i saw of this type did have a dash of collie in them and they did anything put in front of them and that was a few years back too very mean spirited dogs they were had to watch them with your terriers.

[jeemes 4,708]

People talk of adding this and adding that as though breeding good dogs is like baking a cake...If only it was that simple. This is how men get lost over the years trying diffrent ingredients by diffrent breeds,and talking about fractions instead of traits. The worst idea in the world imo is to get a dog and then start thinking what to put in it to wake it up or put fire in it.

[Somewhereyournot 1,117]

People talk of adding this and adding that as though breeding good dogs is like baking a cake...If only it was that simple. This is how men get lost over the years trying diffrent ingredients by diffrent breeds,and talking about fractions instead of traits. The worst idea in the world imo is to get a dog and then start thinking what to put in it to wake it up or put fire in it.

i get exactly what you mean. You want the dog your getting in the first place to be the best it can be. Not "looking down the line" to create a better dog than you already have.

[Maximus Ferret 2,064]

People talk of adding this and adding that as though breeding good dogs is like baking a cake...If only it was that simple. This is how men get lost over the years trying diffrent ingredients by diffrent breeds,and talking about fractions instead of traits. The worst idea in the world imo is to get a dog and then start thinking what to put in it to wake it up or put fire in it.

And yet that's how the fen dog was created, by adding saluki blood to the lurcher, to increase stamina and drive.......and that's how the lines of coursing greyhound were created, by Lord Orford adding bull blood to what they had then to "fire it up" a bit.

In fact that's how all lurchers were originally created, by adding something to running dogs to alleviate perceived faults in a dog that was otherwise OK.

The main thing as I see it is to make sure the blood you add is tested at what it does.

Edited January 12, 2016 by Maximus Ferret

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

People talk of adding this and adding that as though breeding good dogs is like baking a cake...If only it was that simple. This is how men get lost over the years trying diffrent ingredients by diffrent breeds,and talking about fractions instead of traits. The worst idea in the world imo is to get a dog and then start thinking what to put in it to wake it up or put fire in it.

So how were the lurchers of today created then?

 

Was it not by adding something to a dog that was lacking something?

 

And you say I don't know what I'm talking about. Lol

[jeemes 4,708]

 

People talk of adding this and adding that as though breeding good dogs is like baking a cake...If only it was that simple. This is how men get lost over the years trying diffrent ingredients by diffrent breeds,and talking about fractions instead of traits. The worst idea in the world imo is to get a dog and then start thinking what to put in it to wake it up or put fire in it.

And yet that's how the fen dog was created, by adding saluki blood to the lurcher, to increase stamina and drive.......and that's how the lines of coursing greyhound were created, by Lord Orford adding bull blood to what they had then to "fire it up" a bit.

In fact that's how all lurchers were originally created, by adding something to running dogs to alleviate perceived faults in a dog that was otherwise OK.

The main thing as I see it is to make sure the blood you add is tested at what it does.

 

When you talk about fen dogs or lord Orfords Greyhounds, Pit bull terriers,Bull greyhounds,collie greys or Basset hound x harrier you are talking about purposeful outcrosses that have been thought out then tested and bred and tested and bred and strains being evolved in some cases through line and inbreeding instead of perpetual outcrossing to diffrent fads every time a bitch is mated.

[downsview 448]

Nothing new about adding a bit of collie saluki or even bull to deerhound x greyhound

[Maximus Ferret 2,064]

 

 

People talk of adding this and adding that as though breeding good dogs is like baking a cake...If only it was that simple. This is how men get lost over the years trying diffrent ingredients by diffrent breeds,and talking about fractions instead of traits. The worst idea in the world imo is to get a dog and then start thinking what to put in it to wake it up or put fire in it.

And yet that's how the fen dog was created, by adding saluki blood to the lurcher, to increase stamina and drive.......and that's how the lines of coursing greyhound were created, by Lord Orford adding bull blood to what they had then to "fire it up" a bit.

In fact that's how all lurchers were originally created, by adding something to running dogs to alleviate perceived faults in a dog that was otherwise OK.

The main thing as I see it is to make sure the blood you add is tested at what it does.

 

When you talk about fen dogs or lord Orfords Greyhounds, Pit bull terriers,Bull greyhounds,collie greys or Basset hound x harrier you are talking about purposeful outcrosses that have been thought out then tested and bred and tested and bred and strains being evolved in some cases through line and inbreeding instead of perpetual outcrossing to diffrent fads every time a bitch is mated.

 

Who say's it's not thought out? If I do put bull blood across my deer/grey bitch it'll be for the same reason that some people mix bull blood with saluki blooded lurchers and IF I do it won't be for a couple more years yet and any pups I keep will be worked and not bred from unless they reach a standard.