English Bull And Their Crosses Thread.

[neil cooney 10,416]

To reinstate gameness is to admit youve cocked up but to maintain it is to preserve.Bull breeds have a place in this decision.

I hear ya FD, BUT in your opinion is there not more than a few lines of good working terriers out there that IF needed the same result could be got by using as an outcross ?

OR, are you like some other good breeders out there, who, when they needed an outcross were too proud to ask another terrierman so used a bull type as a shortcut whilst also not having to say they used such and such's dog ?

Genuine question , with no harm meant but I know of well known breeders who've done such.

[Lenmcharristar 9,867]

Didn't all the old timers use staff in they're dogs, going the American route will get dogs too big to go to ground, but surely an ebt is more than a match for fox,

[tinytiger 840]

Are an ebt and pit bull not around the same size.?

[Francie 6,368]

 

 

Lol at neil, there was a few good ebt, an ebt crosses used on old bill years back, there werent just show dogs imo

You're talking about the trials, right ?

There were EBTs that certified as sounders too and there was a lad who also qualified his beagles. I've seen breeds you wouldn't believe run a chute.

Yes a couple of EBT's did leave there mark but if in todays climate you said that you have EBTs that are the real deal and that you'll put your money where your mouth is I would say that your phone would be hopping with offers.

The dog in this vid neil, red hand of ulster, champion badger dog, he was a goodun, not manyperformed like him neil you reckon.

[Francie 6,368]

https://youtu.be/V-uUeO_5960

[peterhunter86 8,627]

Are you into the bull breeds francie

[YOKEL 2,288]

one dog out of how many over how many decades??? hardly a good advert for the working ability of the e.b.t. is it....name 10 from the last 20 yrs??? still be a fraction of the dogs out there...

Yokel

[Lenmcharristar 9,867]

What about the bitch the ch psycho mated the ebt? She must have been alright.

[Lenmcharristar 9,867]

And if they're that rubbish then why have the been used in creating new breeds of tough dog like that dogo , cordoba, bully kuta, gull terr etc and I'm sure a few others

[Francie 6,368]

Are you into the bull breeds francie

Yeah pete loved me bulls mate

[YOKEL 2,288]

lets say she was, that was a while longer than 20yrs back, and we're now up to two....

YOKEL

[Francie 6,368]

one dog out of how many over how many decades??? hardly a good advert for the working ability of the e.b.t. is it....name 10 from the last 20 yrs??? still be a fraction of the dogs out there...

Yokel

I cant yokel, just put it up to see what people think?

[Lenmcharristar 9,867]

lets say she was, that was a while longer than 20yrs back, and we're now up to two....

YOKEL

was she alive when handy and tinker was still going?

[Francie 6,368]

lets say she was, that was a while longer than 20yrs back, and we're now up to two....

YOKEL

So they must have been half decent, an theres a thread on here, with lads down south that put ebt in there whites a few years back, couldnt be that bad?

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

 

To reinstate gameness is to admit youve cocked up but to maintain it is to preserve.Bull breeds have a place in this decision.

 

I hear ya FD, BUT in your opinion is there not more than a few lines of good working terriers out there that IF needed the same result could be got by using as an outcross ?

OR, are you like some other good breeders out there, who, when they needed an outcross were too proud to ask another terrierman so used a bull type as a shortcut whilst also not having to say they used such and such's dog ?

Genuine question , with no harm meant but I know of well known breeders who've done such.

Neil - Ive never used a straight staff but have used bull infused stuff from a lad i know well .I take the short cut if you like and im not embarrassed to say either .There is more than one strain over here that uses a bull to maintain size as well as the rest it brings .IMO there are many breeders about who would benefit from this cross and it is they who are too proud to admit it .