leethedog 3,071 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I know for sure the ones my dad had were 1/4 bull terrier I've shown him this thread and he said a lot of you are full of shit .he also said he never seen a black dog work but plenty of red ones and to be honest that's why he had bull russell . He is 68 now and in a wheel chair or I'd be dragging him out with me 1 Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Out of all hunting done and digging in my life and meeting fellas, the one old boy, 'who said 90 per cent of them couldn't lie straight in bed, or tell the truth', must have been the most concrete thing I ever heard 4 Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,863 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 BGD she was quiet the opposite,really laid back and placid,but show her a hole in the ground and fuk me she turned psychotic,very intense where her work was concerned,she became a firm favourite of my family when we had her,slept in front of the fire and was agreat pet too,but believe me we did give her a lot of work and she never flinched,always up for a bit of sport in the country Sounds like one of those dogs that only comes along once in a lifetime. Did she produce anything as good as herself? unfortunately an opportunity wasted in time,i never bred her to any other bull type dog.we had 3 litters from her all to the same terrier.If I had sense and the hindsight to realise we could have created a few decent bull terriers from her I should have gone down that road,all that mattered at the time was digging dogs. A real shame that sounds like she could of been useful in improving the EBT, sounds a real handy bitch. I assume the pups off the terrier mating were pretty special if you went back to it 3 times well a high percentage of them worked ok,a certain ammount failed but we got sport out of a few of them. Quote Link to post
BGD 6,436 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Can't ask for more than that from a breeding, fair play Quote Link to post
Romans-14:2-3 4 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 My old man was one of the Early breeders in Glasgow to have a go with EBT some 50+ years ago,he moved on to staffidshire an later patterdale's some years later,my older brother,had the last of that EBT gene pool,and from what I remember as a nipper,they are very different to what an EBT is of today,they was like bryant's photo very small,lean and a very much will do attitude,many a time my brothers dog pulled next doors staff x rotwieller through a hole in the fence by its face!! He took on cows,sheep and horses a true terrier,he would walk everywhere on his back legs poised like a rabid Mercat.role on 30 years I fancied my first EBT my brother linked me up with some lads in Cumbria that had some of the best dogs going,when I got there to view the stud I nearly got the shock of my life this huge "bull" come busting into the living room,smashed the sh** out the coffee table with its tail and knocked me flying backwards,this was a million miles away from the working dogs back in the day,most EBT's of today are a bit daft and cumbersome and unfortunately have strayed away from there lines,or maybe there going back to there original lines,I don't know,but I certainly don't remember them like what they are today,and to get the best worker you would have to search high and low for a good one an like Lenmcharristar said maybe of miniature lines to start,but it's in there, and the potential is huge for a great working dog that make some of the best noises when there latched onto something. Quote Link to post
Corkman 944 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 BGD she was quiet the opposite,really laid back and placid,but show her a hole in the ground and fuk me she turned psychotic,very intense where her work was concerned,she became a firm favourite of my family when we had her,slept in front of the fire and was agreat pet too,but believe me we did give her a lot of work and she never flinched,always up for a bit of sport in the country Sounds like one of those dogs that only comes along once in a lifetime. Did she produce anything as good as herself? unfortunately an opportunity wasted in time,i never bred her to any other bull type dog.we had 3 litters from her all to the same terrier.If I had sense and the hindsight to realise we could have created a few decent bull terriers from her I should have gone down that road,all that mattered at the time was digging dogs. A real shame that sounds like she could of been useful in improving the EBT, sounds a real handy bitch. I assume the pups off the terrier mating were pretty special if you went back to it 3 times well a high percentage of them worked ok,a certain ammount failed but we got sport out of a few of them. jigsaw... Nice photo. Sounded like a good one. You hardly have a photo of the Tonto dog belonging to a man not far from you? The bull influence was strong in that dog. Some size of a mallet on him........ BP had a good few EBT that we're supposed to be handy enough in the day. Still plenty of terriers down this way with English Bull influence working away with more sense than people would think..... 2 Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,863 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 BGD she was quiet the opposite,really laid back and placid,but show her a hole in the ground and fuk me she turned psychotic,very intense where her work was concerned,she became a firm favourite of my family when we had her,slept in front of the fire and was agreat pet too,but believe me we did give her a lot of work and she never flinched,always up for a bit of sport in the country Sounds like one of those dogs that only comes along once in a lifetime. Did she produce anything as good as herself? unfortunately an opportunity wasted in time,i never bred her to any other bull type dog.we had 3 litters from her all to the same terrier.If I had sense and the hindsight to realise we could have created a few decent bull terriers from her I should have gone down that road,all that mattered at the time was digging dogs. A real shame that sounds like she could of been useful in improving the EBT, sounds a real handy bitch. I assume the pups off the terrier mating were pretty special if you went back to it 3 times well a high percentage of them worked ok,a certain ammount failed but we got sport out of a few of them. jigsaw... Nice photo. Sounded like a good one. You hardly have a photo of the Tonto dog belonging to a man not far from you? The bull influence was strong in that dog. Some size of a mallet on him........ BP had a good few EBT that we're supposed to be handy enough in the day. Still plenty of terriers down this way with English Bull influence working away with more sense than people would think..... only photographed my own corkman,i remember BP's princess(1/2 eb,sister to CMc Spike) ),saw her once trialled but she never qualified,always made a squeak or sound before her time was up.Think that was a trait with them,they made a bit of noise when doing their thing. Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 BGD she was quiet the opposite,really laid back and placid,but show her a hole in the ground and fuk me she turned psychotic,very intense where her work was concerned,she became a firm favourite of my family when we had her,slept in front of the fire and was agreat pet too,but believe me we did give her a lot of work and she never flinched,always up for a bit of sport in the country Sounds like one of those dogs that only comes along once in a lifetime. Did she produce anything as good as herself? unfortunately an opportunity wasted in time,i never bred her to any other bull type dog.we had 3 litters from her all to the same terrier.If I had sense and the hindsight to realise we could have created a few decent bull terriers from her I should have gone down that road,all that mattered at the time was digging dogs. A real shame that sounds like she could of been useful in improving the EBT, sounds a real handy bitch. I assume the pups off the terrier mating were pretty special if you went back to it 3 times well a high percentage of them worked ok,a certain ammount failed but we got sport out of a few of them. jigsaw... Nice photo. Sounded like a good one. You hardly have a photo of the Tonto dog belonging to a man not far from you? The bull influence was strong in that dog. Some size of a mallet on him........ BP had a good few EBT that we're supposed to be handy enough in the day. Still plenty of terriers down this way with English Bull influence working away with more sense than people would think..... only photographed my own corkman,i remember BP's princess(1/2 eb,sister to CMc Spike) ),saw her once trialled but she never qualified,always made a squeak or sound before her time was up.Think that was a trait with them,they made a bit of noise when doing their thing. Was that sqeaking done in Rathdrum in Tipp?? Quote Link to post
Corkman 944 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 BGD she was quiet the opposite,really laid back and placid,but show her a hole in the ground and fuk me she turned psychotic,very intense where her work was concerned,she became a firm favourite of my family when we had her,slept in front of the fire and was agreat pet too,but believe me we did give her a lot of work and she never flinched,always up for a bit of sport in the country Sounds like one of those dogs that only comes along once in a lifetime. Did she produce anything as good as herself? unfortunately an opportunity wasted in time,i never bred her to any other bull type dog.we had 3 litters from her all to the same terrier.If I had sense and the hindsight to realise we could have created a few decent bull terriers from her I should have gone down that road,all that mattered at the time was digging dogs. A real shame that sounds like she could of been useful in improving the EBT, sounds a real handy bitch. I assume the pups off the terrier mating were pretty special if you went back to it 3 times well a high percentage of them worked ok,a certain ammount failed but we got sport out of a few of them. jigsaw... Nice photo. Sounded like a good one. You hardly have a photo of the Tonto dog belonging to a man not far from you? The bull influence was strong in that dog. Some size of a mallet on him........ BP had a good few EBT that we're supposed to be handy enough in the day. Still plenty of terriers down this way with English Bull influence working away with more sense than people would think..... only photographed my own corkman,i remember BP's princess(1/2 eb,sister to CMc Spike) ),saw her once trialled but she never qualified,always made a squeak or sound before her time was up.Think that was a trait with them,they made a bit of noise when doing their thing. As mentioned in this thread maybe there was method in the older generations of men down our way in dropping EBT in to Russell's........ Squeaking EBT's x Russells producing well built hardy sounders fit for purpose. Also as Romans said the EBT back then that I can remember were a tidier animal not the big fat yokes of today. Just maybe it is a better idea than breeding Staff's in to working terriers like was done with certain patterdale lines............ creating crocodiles. Once people are happy with their lot I suppose that is the main thing. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and preferences. 4 Quote Link to post
tinytiger 828 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Thought rathdrum is in wicklow- someone told a friend of mine about an English bull that had an operation done on his windpipe so he couldn't open up - don't know whether it's true or not Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Thought rathdrum is in wicklow- someone told a friend of mine about an English bull that had an operation done on his windpipe so he couldn't open up - don't know whether it's true or not Sorry meant Dundrum in Tipp,and yes that is true,but it was no operation it was a needle. Edited January 18, 2016 by liamdelaney Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,863 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 BGD she was quiet the opposite,really laid back and placid,but show her a hole in the ground and fuk me she turned psychotic,very intense where her work was concerned,she became a firm favourite of my family when we had her,slept in front of the fire and was agreat pet too,but believe me we did give her a lot of work and she never flinched,always up for a bit of sport in the country Sounds like one of those dogs that only comes along once in a lifetime. Did she produce anything as good as herself? unfortunately an opportunity wasted in time,i never bred her to any other bull type dog.we had 3 litters from her all to the same terrier.If I had sense and the hindsight to realise we could have created a few decent bull terriers from her I should have gone down that road,all that mattered at the time was digging dogs. A real shame that sounds like she could of been useful in improving the EBT, sounds a real handy bitch. I assume the pups off the terrier mating were pretty special if you went back to it 3 times well a high percentage of them worked ok,a certain ammount failed but we got sport out of a few of them. jigsaw... Nice photo. Sounded like a good one. You hardly have a photo of the Tonto dog belonging to a man not far from you? The bull influence was strong in that dog. Some size of a mallet on him........ BP had a good few EBT that we're supposed to be handy enough in the day. Still plenty of terriers down this way with English Bull influence working away with more sense than people would think..... only photographed my own corkman,i remember BP's princess(1/2 eb,sister to CMc Spike) ),saw her once trialled but she never qualified,always made a squeak or sound before her time was up.Think that was a trait with them,they made a bit of noise when doing their thing. Was that sqeaking done in Rathdrum in Tipp?? jeeze would be able to remember that far back lol.couldnt say for sure. Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 BGD she was quiet the opposite,really laid back and placid,but show her a hole in the ground and fuk me she turned psychotic,very intense where her work was concerned,she became a firm favourite of my family when we had her,slept in front of the fire and was agreat pet too,but believe me we did give her a lot of work and she never flinched,always up for a bit of sport in the country Sounds like one of those dogs that only comes along once in a lifetime. Did she produce anything as good as herself? unfortunately an opportunity wasted in time,i never bred her to any other bull type dog.we had 3 litters from her all to the same terrier.If I had sense and the hindsight to realise we could have created a few decent bull terriers from her I should have gone down that road,all that mattered at the time was digging dogs. A real shame that sounds like she could of been useful in improving the EBT, sounds a real handy bitch. I assume the pups off the terrier mating were pretty special if you went back to it 3 times well a high percentage of them worked ok,a certain ammount failed but we got sport out of a few of them. jigsaw... Nice photo. Sounded like a good one. You hardly have a photo of the Tonto dog belonging to a man not far from you? The bull influence was strong in that dog. Some size of a mallet on him........ BP had a good few EBT that we're supposed to be handy enough in the day. Still plenty of terriers down this way with English Bull influence working away with more sense than people would think..... only photographed my own corkman,i remember BP's princess(1/2 eb,sister to CMc Spike) ),saw her once trialled but she never qualified,always made a squeak or sound before her time was up.Think that was a trait with them,they made a bit of noise when doing their thing. Was that sqeaking done in Rathdrum in Tipp?? jeeze would be able to remember that far back lol.couldnt say for sure. I remember him in Dundrum in Tipp with a white bull that made a bit of noise,I can still see him marching across the field with the bull. Quote Link to post
Lenmcharristar 9,761 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 i prefare the brindles over the whites, duno why. white was never a good colour to act as camo lolo 1 Quote Link to post
nitestalker 28 209 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 good working wheaten blood every bit as good as ebt on badger pre ban i was told 1 Quote Link to post
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