mushroom 12,870 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Trace those dogs back to the late 1800s and what were they called? Bull terriers or pit bull terriers. There's plenty of historical documents (newspaper ads, old game dog publications, personal records of breeders) dating from that time that called the dogs used for dog fighting bull terriers Why the name if there's no terrier blood? there is/was a lane on Burnley rd from Bacup out towards Burnley called pit bull lane or something very similar. Was told it's a very old name. When I enquired about the name to my friends dad and he explained... It was the first time I ever heard about the dog/baiting pits of yesteryear, I was about six or so ? So I'm guessing that the name pit bull isn't an American invention 1 Quote Link to post
BGD 6,436 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Trace those dogs back to the late 1800s and what were they called? Bull terriers or pit bull terriers. There's plenty of historical documents (newspaper ads, old game dog publications, personal records of breeders) dating from that time that called the dogs used for dog fighting bull terriers Why the name if there's no terrier blood? there is/was a lane on Burnley rd from Bacup out towards Burnley called pit bull lane or something very similar. Was told it's a very old name. When I enquired about the name to my friends dad and he explained... It was the first time I ever heard about the dog/baiting pits of yesteryear, I was about six or so ? So I'm guessing that the name pit bull isn't an American invention Of course it isn't, they were already being called pit bull terriers when they were first imported to America, there's newspaper ads etc that show that. I bet that lane has been renamed now... 1 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Trace those dogs back to the late 1800s and what were they called? Bull terriers or pit bull terriers. There's plenty of historical documents (newspaper ads, old game dog publications, personal records of breeders) dating from that time that called the dogs used for dog fighting bull terriers Why the name if there's no terrier blood? there is/was a lane on Burnley rd from Bacup out towards Burnley called pit bull lane or something very similar. Was told it's a very old name. When I enquired about the name to my friends dad and he explained... It was the first time I ever heard about the dog/baiting pits of yesteryear, I was about six or so ? So I'm guessing that the name pit bull isn't an American invention Not at all, the Yanks created the name in 1898. Dogmen still called them what they wanted after it's recognition. Quote Link to post
Carlovian 592 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) 1898 was year the United Kennel club ,,,first recognized pit bull terriers ,,,and chose to name them AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIERS... Edited September 13, 2016 by Carlovian Quote Link to post
Dead Eyes 681 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 There was either a 'chorley' or a 'clitheroe' bull terrier, similar to 'Staffordshire' but they all fell by eventually Everyone knows our bull terriers for the pit created the American version. But nowadays the American version is far superior Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 There was either a 'chorley' or a 'clitheroe' bull terrier, similar to 'Staffordshire' but they all fell by eventually Everyone knows our bull terriers for the pit created the American version. But nowadays the American version is far superior They are the same version, the Americans preserved it and likely improved it though through selection.... Quote Link to post
mad4digging 663 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Has many lads on here worked bull Russell types? Quote Link to post
Lenmcharristar 9,727 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Has many lads on here worked bull Russell types?i had a bitch a while back, feck me, not for my liking, but hard as nails, bull head, Jack Russell body, hard as nails and mute, went up to strabane after me 1 Quote Link to post
mad4digging 663 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 I like the bull Russell types, I seen all different percentages of bull n Russell working, some hard, some mixing and working its game well Quote Link to post
Lenmcharristar 9,727 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 I like the bull Russell types, I seen all different percentages of bull n Russell working, some hard, some mixing and working its game wellhavnt seen a baying bull Russell, just an anchor and a fox killing machine Quote Link to post
mad4digging 663 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Seen a few bull Russell types to start off hard but settle up after few digs but also know a few that didn't last very long cause they were in and on with the game Quote Link to post
mad4digging 663 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Seen a few bull Russell types to start off hard but settle up after few digs but also know a few that didn't last very long cause they were in and on with the game 1 Quote Link to post
bigfellap 587 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 image.jpeg Patch was English bull X Russell he belonged to my good mate, I loved waking up in the morning knowing patch was waiting in the truck you always knew you were getting ye dig with Patch atb At Patch was some dog had the pleasure to hunt with him and he never let us down, the son to him that I got of you AT buster was another good dog, nothing on patch though? Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Dug to loads of bullx's of every % from the mid 70s to early 80s as it was all that was available about me at the time.They were mainly staffxrussell with the odd exception on ebxrussell.Some were very hard[stupid hard] and more were very steady diging dogs.I had up until a couple of year back a pattxbull that was dug to a lot over 6 seasons and never let us down,bit over anxious for his own good and finished up with only a couple of teeth left at 7 year old,gave to to a mate that just wanted something to bush with or bolt the odd fox for his running dogs as i would not use him again,would not be fair on the dog the way he worked.Probably will never keep or work a bull russell type again as the stuff i have now dies what i want but they were grand dogs to work when we were younger. 1 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 It is pretty impressive that on occasion you will get a handy Bull Terrier as they are and always have been a show dog. 1 Quote Link to post
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