English Bull And Their Crosses Thread.

[obeyerik 3]

Had a brindle German bred mini but I think he may have been mentally ill. He was really dog aggressive, when he saw a dog he tried to bite and hold the neck of the dog no matter how big. Got bit by a huge Dutch shepherd that realized he wasn't right and was laying on his back wagging his tail as fast as he could. We pulled them apart and all he wanted was to go back towards this dog that obviously would have killed him. He was big for a mini I think 15" and 35 pounds. With people he was real nice but he couldn't deal with the environment. He was scared of every noise and any movement outside unless he seen another dog then he didn't take note of anything. Sometimes you could get him fixated on a ball or something but as soon as he was out of drive his character fell together like a house of cards. Ended up living in the middle of nowhere with a single guy who lives out on the land alone but he also says if you take the dog anywhere where there is other people or dogs he's a wreck

[Lenmcharristar 9,727]

I've my own one here a bitch, she's a gentle pet, great with the chickens too and the farm cat, but spot on with other dogs too

[dai dogs 1,404]

I have a old bitch here shes not right in the head when shes near another dog, bitch, or any animal but pleasant around people

She tried to kill my Bull x Deerhound im just glad that i was about at the time..

[Lusitano 294]

EBT's in my opinion will always be a second rate bull and terrier, apart from the odd one the rest have always been no where near the Pit Bull or a decent Staff.

[Lenmcharristar 9,727]

EBT's in my opinion will always be a second rate bull and terrier, apart from the odd one the rest have always been no where near the Pit Bull or a decent Staff.

 

we get that bit mate, nobody doubts that, but there's bound to be positiv s in them as they're used in out crossings, instead of all the doom n gloom

[Lusitano 294]

Lenmcharristar - Yes there is... That 1 in every 1000 that is half decent. I think in the past they were used more because there wasn't much else, as soon as the pit came over ebts and the majority of staffs went down hill. This day and age there is much better dogs to be used as crosses.

[DogFox123 1,379]

At the end of the day the Bullterrier's ancestors were working game dogs so it's no surprise you will get lucky once in a while, hell there's been game show Staffs over the years. The Bullterrier along with the Staff have been bred to be show dogs, nothing more nothing less....

[neil cooney 10,416]

At the end of the day the Bullterrier's ancestors were working game dogs so it's no surprise you will get lucky once in a while, hell there's been game show Staffs over the years. The Bullterrier along with the Staff have been bred to be show dogs, nothing more nothing less....

The English Bull Terriers ancestors were not working game dogs. He was bred for looks , nothing more, nothing less so when a game one crops up IMO that's a bonus not a dog who's doing his ancestors proud, which IMO is something every working dog should do.

[Lenmcharristar 9,727]

Mix them with pit n staff n get a good line going

[DogFox123 1,379]

 

 

At the end of the day the Bullterrier's ancestors were working game dogs so it's no surprise you will get lucky once in a while, hell there's been game show Staffs over the years. The Bullterrier along with the Staff have been bred to be show dogs, nothing more nothing less....

The English Bull Terriers ancestors were not working game dogs. He was bred for looks , nothing more, nothing less so when a game one crops up IMO that's a bonus not a dog who's doing his ancestors proud, which IMO is something every working dog should do.

 

Of course they were, go look at early pics of Pitbulls and you'll see dogs that resemble the Bull Terrier, hell even today they pop up.

 

The Bull Terriers baseline is the Bull and Terrier AKA the APBT crossed with the English White Terrier. It was bred for looks but it's of no surprise that the odd one still has a little fire inside.

[fat man 4,741]

Seen a few that were crossed with russells for digging and they made damn good terriers,a digging club from NI kept a few of them and they were worked hard and done there job,also an old friend of my own bred a litter of half cross englishbull xrussell many years ago and most of the litter turned out decent dogs.

[neil cooney 10,416]

 

 

At the end of the day the Bullterrier's ancestors were working game dogs so it's no surprise you will get lucky once in a while, hell there's been game show Staffs over the years. The Bullterrier along with the Staff have been bred to be show dogs, nothing more nothing less....

The English Bull Terriers ancestors were not working game dogs. He was bred for looks , nothing more, nothing less so when a game one crops up IMO that's a bonus not a dog who's doing his ancestors proud, which IMO is something every working dog should do.

 

Of course they were, go look at early pics of Pitbulls and you'll see dogs that resemble the Bull Terrier, hell even today they pop up.

 

The Bull Terriers baseline is the Bull and Terrier AKA the APBT crossed with the English White Terrier. It was bred for looks but it's of no surprise that the odd one still has a little fire inside.

 

I disagree. As has been already said that James Hinks bred the original EBTs for the show bench. Simple as that.

Whether they were game is another argument and gameness is something that can be argued 'til the cows come home and everyone has different opinions on gameness. But one thing I do know is that those who need gameness in abundance in their dogs DO NOT take the EBT seriously. And they're right. It's reputation as a hard mouthed cur is justified.

But I do know that the blood of a EBT has often contributed to successful lines.

The DiddyCoy wheatens and the famous staff Psycho spring to mind.

But that doesn't qualify the EBT as a game breed.

[DogFox123 1,379]

 

 

 

 

At the end of the day the Bullterrier's ancestors were working game dogs so it's no surprise you will get lucky once in a while, hell there's been game show Staffs over the years. The Bullterrier along with the Staff have been bred to be show dogs, nothing more nothing less....

The English Bull Terriers ancestors were not working game dogs. He was bred for looks , nothing more, nothing less so when a game one crops up IMO that's a bonus not a dog who's doing his ancestors proud, which IMO is something every working dog should do.

Of course they were, go look at early pics of Pitbulls and you'll see dogs that resemble the Bull Terrier, hell even today they pop up.

 

The Bull Terriers baseline is the Bull and Terrier AKA the APBT crossed with the English White Terrier. It was bred for looks but it's of no surprise that the odd one still has a little fire inside.

I disagree. As has been already said that James Hinks bred the original EBTs for the show bench. Simple as that.

Whether they were game is another argument and gameness is something that can be argued 'til the cows come home and everyone has different opinions on gameness. But one thing I do know is that those who need gameness in abundance in their dogs DO NOT take the EBT seriously. And they're right. It's reputation as a hard mouthed cur is justified.

But I do know that the blood of a EBT has often contributed to successful lines.

The DiddyCoy wheatens and the famous staff Psycho spring to mind.

But that doesn't qualify the EBT as a game breed.

You disagree on what part? The Bullterrier is a show dog but it was created from working dogs down the line. The Bull and Terrier is almost certainly the APBT unless you belive the APBT is Infact the original Bulldog which is unlikely. Edited July 12, 2016 by DogFox123

[AKA-BRINDLE 879]

Think it was the splash of dalmatian blood Hinks put in that brings the gameness

[neil cooney 10,416]

IMO the APBT is as close to the original bulldog as you can get. That's Bulldog, not Bull and Terrier. There's no terrier blood in the APBT.