p3d 879 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I was down there one time eight years ago and met some guy's who had them, said over twenty five years and his mate had a couple, he got the service of my ten months old dog, promised me a pup back, I got nothing or heard of them a few months later, I give him a Russell cross too. YHe was saying it was about giving dogs and against selling them Pablo Esc, Why would a terrier man want the service of a 10 month old dog? Seems hasty to me. The tradition down here is to gift pups, as soon as money is involved the terrier strain suffers. It is about respect for the dogs, money demeans them. P3D 11 Quote Link to post
Lenmcharristar 9,761 Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I was down there one time eight years ago and met some guy's who had them, said over twenty five years and his mate had a couple, he got the service of my ten months old dog, promised me a pup back, I got nothing or heard of them a few months later, I give him a Russell cross too. YHe was saying it was about giving dogs and against selling them Pablo Esc, Why would a terrier man want the service of a 10 month old dog? Seems hasty to me. The tradition down here is to gift pups, as soon as money is involved the terrier strain suffers. It is about respect for the dogs, money demeans them. P3D that's how it should be, how often do we hear we only want pups to go to working homes them a pm comes with a 350 price tag 3 Quote Link to post
Francie 6,368 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I was down there one time eight years ago and met some guy's who had them, said over twenty five years and his mate had a couple, he got the service of my ten months old dog, promised me a pup back, I got nothing or heard of them a few months later, I give him a Russell cross too. YHe was saying it was about giving dogs and against selling them Pablo Esc, Why would a terrier man want the service of a 10 month old dog? Seems hasty to me. The tradition down here is to gift pups, as soon as money is involved the terrier strain suffers. It is about respect for the dogs, money demeans them. P3D that's how it should be, how often do we hear we only want pups to go to working homes them a pm comes with a 350 price tag Thumbs up 1 Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Well he did and got it, thats for sure. Whether it had pups and the lived, that I don't know. I saw there dogs work as well 1 Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 The said the were after a out cross, Quote Link to post
sounder79 80 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Not insulting anyone or their dogs. How long has it been since there was new EBT blood put into that family of terrier Sounder ? And there's nothing wrong with a terrier just being a sounder, nothing whatsoever. Are all those Cork white dogs sounders ? And do they all make the grade ? neil ,i think your mind is made up on the ebt ,it wont be changed. I respect your opnion. All im sayin is there was plenty of terriers down here and still are with that breed in them and they were and are good dogs. when you say that family of terrier i dont know what you mean ? Theres not just one strain of white terrier in cork . Are all those cork white dogs sounders? no. And do they all make the grade? no they dont ,but do all paterdales make the grade? Im not one for reading up on the science of breeding dogs neil but you asked me what can the bull add to a terrier? In my opinion,fire, simple as that,puts a bit of fire in them,and a quater is enough. now, you never answered me why were they put into the wheaten and why was the staff not used? , 3 Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Don't say that, Neil will tell you that the is no such thing as a Patterdale, but black dogs, that magically appeared 1 Quote Link to post
Mixedgrill 704 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 And there's no bull in black dogs 1 Quote Link to post
Lenmcharristar 9,761 Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 to the ebt haters, how come if the pit is king and no other type of dog can improve him, how was he created???? then if the russell type was used for hundred yrs prob more for earth work then why was the black dog created??? who really knows whats in their genetic make up who really knows what happens at cellular level to create the modern dogs??? look at the 1st bull n terriers, if the bulldogs were the game kings then why did they use terrier to improve them? or was they used to improve the terrier??? who really knows?? so is the same thing happening to the ebt x terriers of today???? maybe terriers are wakening them up or maybe theyre giving the terriers the minerals to go with their attitudes????? any answers welcome. lol 3 Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Some digging men who keep a range of terriers, wouldn't like the bull type of dog, or snout. But the would be serious into good dogs and the don't go for sayings like this dog brilliant if it was easy game Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Not insulting anyone or their dogs. How long has it been since there was new EBT blood put into that family of terrier Sounder ? And there's nothing wrong with a terrier just being a sounder, nothing whatsoever. Are all those Cork white dogs sounders ? And do they all make the grade ? neil ,i think your mind is made up on the ebt ,it wont be changed. I respect your opnion. All im sayin is there was plenty of terriers down here and still are with that breed in them and they were and are good dogs. when you say that family of terrier i dont know what you mean ? Theres not just one strain of white terrier in cork . Are all those cork white dogs sounders? no. And do they all make the grade? no they dont ,but do all paterdales make the grade? Im not one for reading up on the science of breeding dogs neil but you asked me what can the bull add to a terrier? In my opinion,fire, simple as that,puts a bit of fire in them,and a quater is enough. now, you never answered me why were they put into the wheaten and why was the staff not used? , To answer the question why was EBT put into SOME wheatens ? I don't know is my answer. But IMO for EBT to be introduced nowadays to any line of terrier, strongdog or lurcher would be silly as there's much better solutions out there than to use a non working breed of curs. And that's the last I'll say on that issue because there's folk starting to think I'm insulting certain dogs. I'm not. 2 Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,863 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 heres a bitch we worked and bred from,she was half english bull,and the 2 reasons we bred from her was she worked ,and worked hard and she was ONLY half english bull.She had pit and staff in her also which gave her the essential ingridient to make her what she was.I tried 6 other E/B's over a long period of time after her demise to see if I could get another close to her drive and determination,ALL of them were utter curs.I did ask about for a time to see if there were any slinking about in the background but never found any worthy of feeding.I wouldnt even contemplate using one these days,even if they worked,cause i reckon they'd be a one off,not enough working lines behind them to justify taking the gamble. 10 Quote Link to post
BGD 6,436 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 That's a very nice looking bitch jigsaw reminds me of a staff that a pal had many years ago, great big white thing with a serious hatred for anything with fur and the most racist dog you've ever seen Would turn into a screaming beast foaming at the mouth and everything at the sight of anyone with even a slight tan Quote Link to post
ands 544 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 This one was a handy rabbiter alright lol 12 Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,863 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 BGD she was quiet the opposite,really laid back and placid,but show her a hole in the ground and fuk me she turned psychotic,very intense where her work was concerned,she became a firm favourite of my family when we had her,slept in front of the fire and was agreat pet too,but believe me we did give her a lot of work and she never flinched,always up for a bit of sport in the country 2 Quote Link to post
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