General lee 979 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 both of the above are litter brothers and have E/B in their blood..1/4 if i can recall corectly. E/B x russell.was a very good dog for his work. my 1st x E/B Benson.Worked hard and was losy to ground,when he slipped into an unknow earth.got him out the next day but dead. 1/4 E/B....very intense and troublesome ,did her job well. both of the above are litter brothers and have E/B in their blood..1/4 if i can recall corectly. E/B x russell.was a very good dog for his work. my 1st x E/B Benson.Worked hard and was losy to ground,when he slipped into an unknow earth.got him out the next day but dead. 1/4 E/B....very intense and troublesome ,did her job well. Nice dogs jigsaw anything like this about now? Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Jaysus Jigsaw they're terrible pictures. What iPhones were ye using back then? 3 Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Jaysus Jigsaw they're terrible pictures. What iPhones were ye using back then? .it all happened many moons ago.... there are all terrier Xs now a days but if there genuine you still see the old influence a mile off.... may not just be in the head either.. Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,865 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 both of the above are litter brothers and have E/B in their blood..1/4 if i can recall corectly. E/B x russell.was a very good dog for his work. my 1st x E/B Benson.Worked hard and was losy to ground,when he slipped into an unknow earth.got him out the next day but dead. 1/4 E/B....very intense and troublesome ,did her job well. both of the above are litter brothers and have E/B in their blood..1/4 if i can recall corectly. E/B x russell.was a very good dog for his work. my 1st x E/B Benson.Worked hard and was losy to ground,when he slipped into an unknow earth.got him out the next day but dead. 1/4 E/B....very intense and troublesome ,did her job well. Nice dogs jigsaw anything like this about now? not that im aware of but i expect someone somewhere has similar, Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,865 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Jaysus Jigsaw they're terrible pictures. What iPhones were ye using back then? happy days bryan,no technology at all.Life was so much simpler back then,and way more relaxed,as you can remember yourself ,lol 1 Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I can still see the shock and disgust on my nieces face when she said "You were ALIVE before the internet " 2 Quote Link to post
sounder79 80 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 If theyre such a shit dog why were they put into the wheaten? They were used alot in cork and not just by fellas mentioned in books. Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 In your opinion Sounder has the EBT ever improved any of the breeds his blood was added too ? 1 Quote Link to post
BGD 6,436 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 both of the above are litter brothers and have E/B in their blood..1/4 if i can recall corectly. E/B x russell.was a very good dog for his work. my 1st x E/B Benson.Worked hard and was losy to ground,when he slipped into an unknow earth.got him out the next day but dead. 1/4 E/B....very intense and troublesome ,did her job well. Thanks for sharing, love to see these old pics very nostalgic White dog in the 3rd pic is a handsome type indeed Quote Link to post
General lee 979 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I wonder if this breed would have been more widely accepted if it had been called the Irish bull terrier Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I wonder if this breed would have been more widely accepted if it had been called the Irish bull terrier I think a lack of success at the trials was worked most against it being used more. The red hand dog was successful and used a lot on the back of that. Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Anyone still working this cross? 1 Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 In your opinion Sounder has the EBT ever improved any of the breeds his blood was added too ? Maybe not breeds, but it must have added something to strains for guys to have persisted with those lines and strains that had that blood? Rather than going back to "pure" terrier? You'll have to ask some hard questions the next time you're down on the river. Myself and A were talking with a guy who offered his pay cheque for a 1/4 EBT cross bitch, way back when. Asked if she was the best bitch he'd seen? No, he said she had some knacks about her , but he knew she'd produce. He never bought her, but she produced a lot of bitches (and dogs) that again produced. I've never heard any of the guys that put it in say they put it in for gameness. They wanted sounders. 1 Quote Link to post
General lee 979 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I wonder if this breed would have been more widely accepted if it had been called the Irish bull terrier I think a lack of success at the trials was worked most against it being used more. The red hand dog was successful and used a lot on the back of that.I understand that but the trials were only a game played in one country and the bull terrier has spanned the globe as a working dog and I've got a feeling the Irishmen that were at the trials would have been more willing to work with the breed if it was a Irish creation and not a English one Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I wonder if this breed would have been more widely accepted if it had been called the Irish bull terrierI think a lack of success at the trials was worked most against it being used more. The red hand dog was successful and used a lot on the back of that.I understand that but the trials were only a game played in one country and the bull terrier has spanned the globe as a working dog and I've got a feeling the Irishmen that were at the trials would have been more willing to work with the breed if it was a Irish creation and not a English one 2 Countries maybe? Some people say Northern Ireland is a part of the UK you know. Some of those guys were heavily involved in the games as you call it. Unless you see Ireland as a 32 county state, which I'd applaud? They hardly thought the Staffordshire Bull terrier was somehow more Irish. 3 Quote Link to post
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