Minkenry 1,044 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) I am considering getting a pup from a jagdterrier X whippet breeding that has recently produced a litter of pups. My understanding is that jag lurchers are relativity rare, and lurchers in general are pretty rare here in the U.S. So I'm not sure what to expect from mix like this. I have a good friend from Europe who has lots of lurcher experience that is helping me decide on what kind of dog I should get, but I thought I'd see what experiences others have had with similarly bred dogs. I would love to see any pictures or videos of any dogs that are a similar kind of cross (like a patterdale x whippet or a jack russell x whippet or some other short legged earth dog crossed over a whippet) so I can get an idea of what a pup might grow up to be like as an adult. Also, to all of those who have had experience with a similar cross, what did the dog end up being like? What were it's strengths and weaknesses? Would you like to get another dog like that in the future, why or why not? Thanks to all who reply! For those of you interested, here are some pictures of the dogs involved in the breeding, and some of the pups produced. Here is the whippet bitch with two of the pups.... Here is the father of the litter by himself..... Here are the puppies produced from the breeding at about 7 weeks old. (The black and tan terrier in these pictures is a jagdterrier bitch, not the father of the litter) What do you guys think of the pups? For those of you wondering what I will be using the dog for, I am looking for a durable, fast running, all round dog that is skilled at using its nose. I want the dog to be fast enough to run down rabbits, but my main use of the dog will be for it to use its nose while working with my hunting mink. In order to be a good mink dog, the dog needs to have a good nose for locating hiding prey like rabbits and ground squirrels out in the desert, rats along streams and ditches, and trailing the mink if I lose her while hunting. I've considered a pure jagdterrier, but they wouldn't be very fast for chasing rabbits, and would only be useful for their tracking abilities. I've considered a pure whippet, but I've been told they are too fragile and sensitive to the cold. A lot of the mink work would involve wading around in a muddy and wet mostly drained canal during the fall, winter, and early spring. (-6 to -12 Celsius is not uncommon during our winters, and there are times it gets considerably colder). Even without our cold temperatures, our often rocky terrain would be too much for most the whippets as well. I do wish that wasn't a problem, as I think otherwise a pure whippet would be a great option! Like I said earlier, I'd really like to have a fast running dog that is able to run some rabbits too, rather than having a dog that is only good with its nose. Maybe one of these jagdterrier lurcher pups would be a good option for what I'm looking for... Edited December 28, 2015 by Minkenry 3 Quote Link to post
delboy_187 904 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) weird choice depends what your goin to be hunting what quarry you plan on mooching Edited December 28, 2015 by delboy_187 1 Quote Link to post
Minkenry 1,044 Posted December 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 weird choice depends what your goin to be hunting what quarry you plan on mooching I actually added a paragraph to my original post, and it answered your question Quote Link to post
delboy_187 904 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 weird choice depends what your goin to be hunting what quarry you plan on mooching I actually added a paragraph to my original post, and it answered your question sorry like looking threw key hole them pics pal didnt notice them big rodents that cross should be well capable Quote Link to post
BlackStreak 498 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Wow what a cross! If I was into small game, that would certainly be a cross I would like to try. I bet they are hell on wheels! Quote Link to post
mushroom 13,203 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 I'd expect a rat/rabbit dog that may or may not track large game 1 Quote Link to post
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 i'd be trying it on fox as well Quote Link to post
gnipper 6,523 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 They will probably be ideal for the type of hunting I've seen in your videos just make sure you really brake it to mink while it's young. 1 Quote Link to post
gnipper 6,523 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 And they look a nice well reared litter of pups. Quote Link to post
General lee 979 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 I've heard of border whippet crosses and Russell whippet crosses doing the type of work you describe so I would think this cross would do the job as long as both parents can do the work they are ment to it should be a good cross keep us updated on your decision Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Ask yourself why arnt they common in the u.s.a , the states already have dogs bred for jobs with generations of successful working dogs in there make up. Not being a dick but dont listen to your friend in europe on what dog to get unless he has spent considerable amount of time working dogs in the area you are planning to work yours his info is prity useless tbh for you. I would recommend finding local hunters as there will be some and seeing what kind of things bring them success. No point raising a pup thats gonna be no good for you when you could raise one that will do all the jobs you want it for and more if your view changes on how or what you want to hunt as you become more experienced. Quote Link to post
BGD 6,436 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Should make a very tough useful mutt, my only worry would be it maybe opening up on quarry but that might not be something that bothers you anyway. Make sure to keep us updated if you decide to go for it, would be interesting to see how they develop Quote Link to post
Minkenry 1,044 Posted December 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Ask yourself why arnt they common in the u.s.a , the states already have dogs bred for jobs with generations of successful working dogs in there make up. Not being a dick but dont listen to your friend in europe on what dog to get unless he has spent considerable amount of time working dogs in the area you are planning to work yours his info is prity useless tbh for you. I would recommend finding local hunters as there will be some and seeing what kind of things bring them success. No point raising a pup thats gonna be no good for you when you could raise one that will do all the jobs you want it for and more if your view changes on how or what you want to hunt as you become more experienced. Good point! Here's the thing.... there isn't exactly a whole bunch of guys running around my country hunting with a trained mink. There really aren't that many more ferret guys here either. My style of hunting isn't common anywhere, and the closest thing to it is done by the ferreters in Europe. Hence the reason I'm seeking advice from people in Europe. 2 Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 I had a patterdale x whippet,so I expect a similar type to your pups . She hunted like a hound ,was clever ,was great out ferreting ,would go to ground ,but could call her out , Was a nightmare with other dogs in the home ,but OK while hunting.screamed when on scent wasn't quite quick enough for rabbits when they got up to speed . Always thought she wasn't quite there,needed either more whippet or less depending what you wanted from her . But a cracking little dog for mooching about. Quote Link to post
Carraghs Gem 1,675 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 my biggest concern with this cross is that jagd are known to be a vocal breed... not a trait i would be looking for in a lurcher personally 2 Quote Link to post
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