BlackStreak 498 Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Seen this reported today and thought yall might like see the stats Chicago vs Houston Population of Chicago is 2.7 million Houston is 2.1 million Average income in Chicago is $38,600 Houston is $37,000 % African American. Chicago = 39% Houston = 24% % Hispanic. Chicago = 29% Houston = 44% % Asian. Chicago = 5.5% Houston = 6% % Whites. Chicago = 28.7% Houston = 26% Concealed carry. Chicago = no Houston = yes # of gun stores. Chicago = 0 Houston = 84 stores sell nothing but guns and 1500 more stores sell guns in addition to other non related things ( Walmart & K mart for example) Homicides per year. Chicago = 1806 Houston = 207 Homicides per 1000 citezens Chicago = 38.4% Houston = 9.6% As a side note, temperatures are much colder in Chicago than in Houston disproving global warming as being responsible as our president would like for us to believe lmao. What a dusch bag!!! This information was for the year 2012. Come across this information today on The Blaze. This is precisely why so many Americans will not give up our guns and staunchly fight against those in government, the media and the citezens that would like to take away our guns or that claim guns are only for hunting. These cities that have banned guns keep wanting more and more rules because the crime is so high in these cities. While they cities like this are seeing more and more crime and are voting for more and more laws and restrictions to try to cratail the hemorrhaging they have brought upon themselves with their left wing polices and thinking, the cities like Houston are seeing more gun sales and concealed carry permits applications than ever before. The info I give at first was from the physical year of 2012. I doubt much has changed lol 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,699 Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Seen this reported today and thought yall might like see the stats Chicago vs Houston Population of Chicago is 2.7 million Houston is 2.1 million Average income in Chicago is $38,600 Houston is $37,000 % African American. Chicago = 39% Houston = 24% % Hispanic. Chicago = 29% Houston = 44% % Asian. Chicago = 5.5% Houston = 6% % Whites. Chicago = 28.7% Houston = 26% Concealed carry. Chicago = no Houston = yes # of gun stores. Chicago = 0 Houston = 84 stores sell nothing but guns and 1500 more stores sell guns in addition to other non related things ( Walmart & K mart for example) Homicides per year. Chicago = 1806 Houston = 207 Homicides per 1000 citezens Chicago = 38.4% Houston = 9.6% As a side note, temperatures are much colder in Chicago than in Houston disproving global warming as being responsible as our president would like for us to believe lmao. What a dusch bag!!! This information was for the year 2012. Come across this information today on The Blaze. This is precisely why so many Americans will not give up our guns and staunchly fight against those in government, the media and the citezens that would like to take away our guns or that claim guns are only for hunting. These cities that have banned guns keep wanting more and more rules because the crime is so high in these cities. While they cities like this are seeing more and more crime and are voting for more and more laws and restrictions to try to cratail the hemorrhaging they have brought upon themselves with their left wing polices and thinking, the cities like Houston are seeing more gun sales and concealed carry permits applications than ever before. The info I give at first was from the physical year of 2012. I doubt much has changed lol were heading to florida next year, so I'll def be visiting a gun range. And doing a bit of fishing. If I ever visit texas il give ye a shout, lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 London population 8.6 million. Homicides in 2014 less than 100 and falling year on year. Uk has gun control. You work it out Blackstreak. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackStreak 498 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 London population 8.6 million. Homicides in 2014 less than 100 and falling year on year. Uk has gun control. You work it out Blackstreak. Hey that's awsome! Glad it works for yall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Blackstreak... Any data regarding lawful use of firearms compared to criminal?France has amazing gun control laws but it didn't stop the recent terror perpetrators using them...Switzerland on the other hand... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackStreak 498 Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Blackstreak... Any data regarding lawful use of firearms compared to criminal? France has amazing gun control laws but it didn't stop the recent terror perpetrators using them... Switzerland on the other hand... Evidently France does have awsome gun controle measures and according to just that, seems like a very safe place to live in a big city. I however would not give up my rights and liberties I have come to know, love, and cherish. As far as finding any stats on lawful uses of guns for protection, I did just did a quick search and all I found was conflicting information that was very biased against guns. The only consistent info I found was 258 justifiable homicides in 2012. This is justifiable killings only and not crimes forted by pulling the gun and holding criminals at gun point or them fleeing for their lucky lives or escaping death only to be wounded. The NRA cites a HUGELY different number and I'm sure that number encompasses crimes prevented by firearms that also did not end in a justifiable killing. Something to the effect of a 98.8% more than just the 258 justifiable homicides however I did not see how they got this number, only me speculating Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Blackstreak... Any data regarding lawful use of firearms compared to criminal? France has amazing gun control laws but it didn't stop the recent terror perpetrators using them... Switzerland on the other hand... No amount of gun control or lack of it is unlikely to change that outcome in France chris......Do you think the Swiss routinely take guns into gigs? Or romantic evenings out with the mrs in a nice safe neighbourhood? I think it's quite hard to compare a small, neutral & very affluent country like Switzerland with most places as regards gun crime, a bit like comparing crime stats of Monaco & Bolton haha..... I've been to Switzerland & from what I could see there seems to be a lot of good reasons why they are not running round shooting each other haha..........but yes, maybe gun ownership may be one of them....;-) Infact I think it's very hard to compare countries when you have different cultural & social factors........like nobody would use South Africa as a great example, would they? Edited December 16, 2015 by Accip74 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) London population 8.6 million. Homicides in 2014 less than 100 and falling year on year. Uk has gun control. You work it out Blackstreak. Hey that's awsome! Glad it works for yall.What do think of the New York City stats blackstreak? I understand the city has very strict gun laws, but is enjoying it's lowest murder rates since 1963? Crime dropped dramatically in the 90's, up to a 70% drop in some areas, despite very strict gun laws...... The New York residents I spoke to post 90's crime drop were loving their new safer neighbourhoods, but I don't think they were carrying more guns? Edited December 16, 2015 by Accip74 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,699 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 It's better to have a gun and never need to use it, than need it and never have it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,525 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 London population 8.6 million. Homicides in 2014 less than 100 and falling year on year. Uk has gun control. You work it out Blackstreak. Hey that's awsome! Glad it works for yall.What do think of the New York City stats blackstreak? I understand the city has very strict gun laws, but is enjoying it's lowest murder rates since 1963? Crime dropped dramatically in the 90's, up to a 70% drop in some areas, despite very strict gun laws......The New York residents I spoke to post 90's crime drop were loving their new safer neighbourhoods, but I don't think they were carrying more guns? You have to look at the whole picture with NY, that mayor introduced the zero tolerance policy on crime did he not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patchthedog 16 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Chicago has been dubbed Chiraq because you are more likely to come to harm there than in Iraq. These crimes are mainly gang related and concealed carry or more gun shops isn't going to stop anything. It seems that guns do kill people so I don't really think you're helping your cause. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago From Wikipedia "In 2011, 83% of murders involved a firearm, and 6.4% were the result of a stabbing. 10% Of murders in 2011 were the result of an armed robbery and at least 60% were gang or gang narcotics altercations. Over 40% of victims and 60% of offenders were between the ages of 17 and 25. 90.1% of victims were male. 75.3% of victims and 70.5% of offenders were African American, 18.9% were Hispanic (20.3% of offenders), and 5.6% were white (3.5% of offenders)." "In October 2015, Chicago was named "America's mass shooting capital", citing 18 occasions thus far in 2015 in which 4 or more people were shot in a single incident." "Former Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy blames Chicago's gang culture for homicide rates and violent crime, stating "Its very frustrating to know that its like 7 percent of the population causes percent of the violent crime...The gangs here are traditional gangs that are generational, if you will. The grandfather was a gang member, the fathers a gang member, and the kid right now is going to be a gang member." Edited December 16, 2015 by Patchthedog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 London population 8.6 million. Homicides in 2014 less than 100 and falling year on year. Uk has gun control. You work it out Blackstreak. Hey that's awsome! Glad it works for yall.What do think of the New York City stats blackstreak? I understand the city has very strict gun laws, but is enjoying it's lowest murder rates since 1963? Crime dropped dramatically in the 90's, up to a 70% drop in some areas, despite very strict gun laws......The New York residents I spoke to post 90's crime drop were loving their new safer neighbourhoods, but I don't think they were carrying more guns? You have to look at the whole picture with NY, that mayor introduced the zero tolerance policy on crime did he not? Exactly my point mate, better policing......social changes etc.....'the bigger picture' I'm not going to pretend to know a lot about US gun crime/laws stats, because I don't........but a quick look at New York City gun laws (stricter than New York State) reveals it's so strict, it's extremely hard to legally carry a gun out & about......& yet more than 20 years on from initial 'zero tolerance' it's still a comparatively safe city to visit & live in...... I'm not going to dispute other stats, carrying guns may well of reduced crime in other city's, but surely New York is a good example of alternatives? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Chicago has been dubbed Chiraq because you are more likely to come to harm there than in Iraq. These crimes are mainly gang related and concealed carry or more gun shops isn't going to stop anything. It seems that guns do kill people so I don't really think you're helping your cause. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago From Wikipedia "In 2011, 83% of murders involved a firearm, and 6.4% were the result of a stabbing. 10% Of murders in 2011 were the result of an armed robbery and at least 60% were gang or gang narcotics altercations. Over 40% of victims and 60% of offenders were between the ages of 17 and 25. 90.1% of victims were male. 75.3% of victims and 70.5% of offenders were African American, 18.9% were Hispanic (20.3% of offenders), and 5.6% were white (3.5% of offenders)." "In October 2015, Chicago was named "America's mass shooting capital", citing 18 occasions thus far in 2015 in which 4 or more people were shot in a single incident." "Former Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy blames Chicago's gang culture for homicide rates and violent crime, stating "Its very frustrating to know that its like 7 percent of the population causes percent of the violent crime...The gangs here are traditional gangs that are generational, if you will. The grandfather was a gang member, the fathers a gang member, and the kid right now is going to be a gang member." so unsuprisingly it seems non-whites are the problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patchthedog 16 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 "75.3% of victims and 70.5% of offenders were African American" Black on Black crime. Poverty = crime. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,525 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 "75.3% of victims and 70.5% of offenders were African American" Black on Black crime. Poverty = crime. I've been skint plenty of times, didn't cross my mind once to go out and kill someone or smash an old granny over the head for her pension money!........I got off my arse and grafted. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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