Tiercel 6,986 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Are you saying him an his wife are lying? All I am doing is pointing out inconstancies in what we have been told. It is up to everyone else to draw their own conclusions. TC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gin 498 Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 I have known Andy and Tonya for a long time,- and i had hoped to back them up, but as try as i could i find something is wrong here. Perhaps it was a tale that got out of hand but, as i find,- When i spoke to Tonya a few nights ago, she said When she got the call from Andy, she phoned a keeper, who went out on a quad, to find Andy, although she says they had a good idea where Andy was. She also text the farmer who was away at the time, and he sent someone else out. She says Andy had fell into a ditch and partly under a wall ( i presume after the "attack" ). The ambulance had wanted him carried to a road, but she says those who found Andy took it upon themselves to call the air-ambulance. She says there is a second page to his medical, that states a fracture to upper right humerus. We knew that anyway, but no head injury. Look on the hospital admission report,- upper right arm injury only. A head injury would have priority. The parts i was going to raise are, About 6 days after it happened, the farmer knew of Andy being hurt and air-lifted out, but said he did not know of any attack. Nor did the farmers mother who said she was in the village everyday, and no-one there had ever mentioned any attack. No one in the village pub knew anything of any attack, staff or patrons. He is said to have had a head injury, knocked unconscious. Got a broken collar-bone in four places, and broken arm. Robbed of money and binoculars, and his rabbits. It is the Wildlife police dealing with this. The air-ambulance insist his only injury was a suspected broken arm, and NO other injury, and they will not change that. The woman at the air-ambulance spoke to the Helicopter crew to confirm the exact injuries and they said categorically no injuries to any part of the body other than upper right arm, and no loss of conciousness. Treated at Carlisle hospital, and home four hours later, by taxi,- a very long taxi ride back home, with "those injury's". Photo shows only bruising to upper right arm, no bruising to the right collar bone, holding that terrier with a shattered left collar bone????? Andy was out ferreting 5 weeks later. !! Tonya says details are not being released to the press, till 30th December to give police time to do enquiries, but she put it in The Hunting Life, on 16th December. The "press" is not any regional paper, its The Weardale Gazette, a community paper, only printed every two weeks, that's why it had to wait to the 30th. Anete the editor knows Tonya. I wondered why that paper, and not regional press. What enquiries are the police doing, no-one in Edmondbyers even knew of it happening. Saying the Edmondbyers community really pulled out all the stops to work together to save Andy's life. I could not find "community" knew of it. The odd thing , the police only mention rabbits being stolen. Tonya says she didnt get a chance to go to the farm to see what was missing until after christmas, the dogs and ferrets got back ok though. Its pointless to say read the report, in the Countrymans weekly, its not an independent report, it was dictated by Tonya. Its difficult to write this but i think i had no choice now 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Respect Gin for writing that. It must be hard writing something like that about people you know, But it is far better to be true to your own principles of right and wrong, than to say nothing and have it fester inside you. TC 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Giro 2,648 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Wow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richie1984 191 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 So basically he fell down a ditch and sustained the injury to his arm only?and made the rest up.bang out of order if that's the case. I apologise if I'm wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukey 1,621 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Well if this is right then fair play to you TC! I must say I'm always very cynical and suspicious of most things and was of this, I have donated to a couple of things on here that I felt were genuine like Craigyboy dying, but after a few successful efforts from folk to raise a lot of money for different things I was always thinking there would be a chance of someone trying to take advantage of this! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,614 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Well if this is right then fair play to you TC! I must say I'm always very cynical and suspicious of most things and was of this, I have donated to a couple of things on here that I felt were genuine like Craigyboy dying, but after a few successful efforts from folk to raise a lot of money for different things I was always thinking there would be a chance of someone trying to take advantage of this! If what he said is true maybe I need to be a bit cynical . I didn't think anybody would make something as big as this up considering they are well known in their field Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Well sorry if I was blunt with you TC but I like many others couldn't see the inconsistency. If what Gin is saying is true then good luck. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,373 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 I can see how some thing like this could escalate and with the quick response of every one helping it might suddenly go a bit far and all get bit awkward. Don't make it right if that is the case but I have wasted a fiver on much worse 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moxy 617 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 As I said previously I hope this is wrong. I was first approached by members a couple of days after this post first went up in early December due to the inconsistency with the air ambulance report which was published on the net. The lack of media coverage and no appeal for witnesses by the police I find strange. Especially after such a vicious attack and then reports of an alleged second attack involving a firearm. If this was in my area there would be a manhunt and again media coverage appealing for witnesses. Immediately, not a month after the attack. There are more things to come to light which are questionable. But that will be down to other members to contribute. If they wish. one thing I do know is the ambulance was called to the Derewent reservoir as a member of staff had to open the barriers to allow access. They only know of a fall. No attack. What I would like to ask is about the stolen items. Firstly it was £20. A pair of binoculars and the rabbits. When did the ferret finder and camera come into it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeppi26 1,855 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Well kick me up the arse and call me Berty I would never have guessed hats off Sherlock Holmes (tc) and gin for the honest post must have been hard to wright that mate. So where's tonya or Andy?? Think this needs clearing up. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Out ferriting or bird watching with there new toys what members have very kindly donated Rex I would think.. Least it shut labtastic up .. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peterhunter86 8,627 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Dirty cnuts if it was a load pony i gave him my only pair of binos same as plenty of other members donating what they could its a cnuts trick taking advantage of decent poeples kindness 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Brake his other arm Peter. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 They were online last night. You'd think they would have responded whether this is right or wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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