John Park terriers

[Apache... 2,588]

This is just my opinion , but I think if it wasn't for the bull added into terriers in the past there would be no patterdales (choc/black), they hid the fact bull was added back then as they do now, some fellas get a bit too protective over their stuff.

[Rat face 1,655]

I imagine that the first cross bull/fell type would have thrown fair big dogs and would have raised a few eyebrows at the time 

[eastcoast 4,115]

There used to be some tiny working Stafford types about, smaller than many Patterdales that are around these days 

[Rat face 1,655]

Really? I never knew that. Same as  all breeds now they have just got massive 

[Glyn..... 5,208]

6 minutes ago, eastcoast said:

There used to be some tiny working Stafford types about, smaller than many Patterdales that are around these days 

alot of the pit blood used would of predated the staff , but your right somewhere small, lot of people are thinking  about the wrong pit , and what the dogs were used for 

[Apache... 2,588]

I wonder what first cross bull do lads prefer, I've had first cross bull lakey, bull Russell, bull fell and bull pat, but never a bull border, yet!!!

[tinytiger 826]

21 minutes ago, Apache... said:

I wonder what first cross bull do lads prefer, I've had first cross bull lakey, bull Russell, bull fell and bull pat, but never a bull border, yet!!!

Best I ever had was pitbull  x plummer -came like a small pit (others threw to the terrier side, one came out like a whippet ).

[tinytiger 826]

On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 12:01, ROM1 said:

Ye your right the dog was born a long time ago his dame was a bitch called Meghan. I know how he was bred was just interested to know how the Ted dog worked.

didnt a lot of old timers who bred bulls or terriers look on putty nose pups as week and pts at birth

Used to be a similar tale about blue greyhounds -I.a put them in a bucket before they break your heart..I've trained  dogs that make me believe there's a bit of truth in it but the most honest dog I put a lead on was also blue. 

[Flacko 1,742]

eastcoast in the Black Country there was a lot of small bred staffords that was used for digging a few years ago & did the job well   It was not uncommon  for lads to put old fashion type russell dogs to the bitches throwing ugly feckers but workers atb Flacko 

[Glyn..... 5,208]

Some lads well old men like me now, added a nice line of small black staff to there smithy/ Spartacus bred stuff late 80's early 90s think one went to the USA , that blood is in a few families of terriers now 

Edited October 15, 2018 by Glyn.....