Cheap Food

[WILF 46,685]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjiz_alan-partridge-farmer-interview_fun

[Blackdog92 2,047]

There are ways round it Blackdog, there is a small holder near us who raises pigs and sells them half a pig or whole pig at a time, takes a deposit when they are nearing slaughter (if I recall it was around the price of whole or half animal) then gives you a call to say your meat is ready for collection (then you pay for slaughter and butchery if you wanted the carcass butchered). We don't use them as they went over to Lop, which seem to be about 60% fat!

I know how to butcher myself so that will save a bit. I know where a cottage slaughter house is not far from me i might have to give them a call and get a cost list wrote up. It doesnt happen over night but it is deffinatly food for thought.

 

What do you mean lop?

[Blackdog92 2,047]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjiz_alan-partridge-farmer-interview_fun

Brilliant WILF.

 

Dont tell the peasants about our 20ft chickens!!!

[secretagentmole 1,701]

British Lop, a pig that is huge in size and very high fat content. More fat than a Sandy and Black or Old Spot! Not very pleasant when you are playing hunt the meat on the roast!

[Blackdog92 2,047]

British Lop, a pig that is huge in size and very high fat content. More fat than a Sandy and Black or Old Spot! Not very pleasant when you are playing hunt the meat on the roast!

I thought it was just wasnt sure. What made them go in to that breed or do you not know?

[fordson 33]

 

 

 

 

 

 

That might be true mole but i can tell you exactly what i put into my ewes & lambs i dont even use concentrate/feed i finnish all of mine of grass and for my own frezzer i only butch weather shearlings that live on heather on the fell they taste the best

 

I only farm sheep and beef so i cant really make an educated statment about the pig and poultry farms.

Precisely, you don't but the big farms damned well do as it allegedly helps the animals put on weight faster. It plays havoc with certain medical conditions like IBS, Chrohns and colitis too! That is why we buy from where we do as it does not aggravate Mary's Chrohn's disease and means she can have steak! It also tastes nicer and becuase we are buying directly from the supplier, he makes more money!

A Lad i whent to school with suffers from chrohns and he buys a bit of mutton from me for that reason. What would you class as a large scale/big farm? It would be nice to be able to sell all of my lambs private atleast that way theres no commision taken or anyone else taking a cut but its realy hard to find private buyers and i envy the people that do have the conections to do it as i would love to be able to do it that way.

 

You have to able to produce a standard consistanly and hit the weights at the right time so anyone who breeds any kind of stock be it sheep cattle or dogs knows how hard it is to do so.

The thing is to put the word out, advertise, cards in shop windows, leaflets in pubs, sign by the roadside, advertise on here as well! If you sell to people on here. You can give approximate dates when selling to the public and approximate weights too, no need to be exact so they have a ballpark idea how much it will be. Also give a price for whole and butchered carcasses, some people may want to go down the route of cutting it up themselves saving you time and money.

Good advice there mole. Its the red tape and paper work that sickens me about it. As the sheep i sell private i have to use certain loop holes to get round explaining were there going if you know what i mean so to upscale it a bit i will realy need to pull my finger out and be more profesional about it. But the end decision is down to the old boy as on paper they are his and these old boys take some persuading to change there ways dont they lol.

loopholes to avold paying tax you mean,you hate to think the peasants were getting something back,each hill farm has more new tractors and implements to go against tax ,and no use for them,lets face it theres more land in cumbria still hasnt seen a plough since it was ploughed for the war effort,and you still hear them moaning about poverty,the only time a lot of these hill farmers have strugled with poverty is if they had to spell it

Mate you have not got a clue. You just keep paying your tax then and all the farmers in england will wait for the postman to fetch your hard earned pennys in a cheque so they can go and cash it and sit and do bugger all. By the way thanks for the new ivory back scratcher it looks nice on the passenger seat of my range rover

 

just imagine how much pride you could have if you actually earned that range rover

[Blackdog92 2,047]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That might be true mole but i can tell you exactly what i put into my ewes & lambs i dont even use concentrate/feed i finnish all of mine of grass and for my own frezzer i only butch weather shearlings that live on heather on the fell they taste the best

 

I only farm sheep and beef so i cant really make an educated statment about the pig and poultry farms.

Precisely, you don't but the big farms damned well do as it allegedly helps the animals put on weight faster. It plays havoc with certain medical conditions like IBS, Chrohns and colitis too! That is why we buy from where we do as it does not aggravate Mary's Chrohn's disease and means she can have steak! It also tastes nicer and becuase we are buying directly from the supplier, he makes more money!

A Lad i whent to school with suffers from chrohns and he buys a bit of mutton from me for that reason. What would you class as a large scale/big farm? It would be nice to be able to sell all of my lambs private atleast that way theres no commision taken or anyone else taking a cut but its realy hard to find private buyers and i envy the people that do have the conections to do it as i would love to be able to do it that way.

 

You have to able to produce a standard consistanly and hit the weights at the right time so anyone who breeds any kind of stock be it sheep cattle or dogs knows how hard it is to do so.

The thing is to put the word out, advertise, cards in shop windows, leaflets in pubs, sign by the roadside, advertise on here as well! If you sell to people on here. You can give approximate dates when selling to the public and approximate weights too, no need to be exact so they have a ballpark idea how much it will be. Also give a price for whole and butchered carcasses, some people may want to go down the route of cutting it up themselves saving you time and money.

Good advice there mole. Its the red tape and paper work that sickens me about it. As the sheep i sell private i have to use certain loop holes to get round explaining were there going if you know what i mean so to upscale it a bit i will realy need to pull my finger out and be more profesional about it. But the end decision is down to the old boy as on paper they are his and these old boys take some persuading to change there ways dont they lol.

loopholes to avold paying tax you mean,you hate to think the peasants were getting something back,each hill farm has more new tractors and implements to go against tax ,and no use for them,lets face it theres more land in cumbria still hasnt seen a plough since it was ploughed for the war effort,and you still hear them moaning about poverty,the only time a lot of these hill farmers have strugled with poverty is if they had to spell it

Mate you have not got a clue. You just keep paying your tax then and all the farmers in england will wait for the postman to fetch your hard earned pennys in a cheque so they can go and cash it and sit and do bugger all. By the way thanks for the new ivory back scratcher it looks nice on the passenger seat of my range rover

just imagine how much pride you could have if you actually earned that range rover

Its ok im totally fine with you paying ?

[secretagentmole 1,701]

 

British Lop, a pig that is huge in size and very high fat content. More fat than a Sandy and Black or Old Spot! Not very pleasant when you are playing hunt the meat on the roast!

I thought it was just wasnt sure. What made them go in to that breed or do you not know?

 

They liked the meat! We liked the meat too, but not the fat so we asked if we could have Old Spot or Sandy and Black (also known as the Plum Pudding Pig) but they said they could get more from Lop so we stopped.

Now we can get nice pork that has been reared properly and not fill the entire freezer. So we go to Perfick Pork (their sausages are superb, Black Pudding and Strawberry Jam is a fave as is Bubble and Squeak).

[secretagentmole 1,701]

 

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjiz_alan-partridge-farmer-interview_fun

Brilliant WILF.

 

Dont tell the peasants about our 20ft chickens!!!

 

He got it wrong, it is 20 legged chickens for supplying fried chicken shops!

[fordson 33]

 

no i dont think there in th minority at all,all you here from farmers is what a struggle it is,you are getting massive amounts of the tax payers money,it dosnt have to be a big farm to get 100,000 pound a year,then you get extra help with fencing and hedges or walls,upto 80percent grant on buildng maintenance or new build, you get that much money you get contractors to do your work for you,and please answer me here,all the figures the amounts you got were available for public viewing, as it should be being the tax payers money,why has this stopped,

I couldnt tell you why it stopped because i dont know bit could you pm me a bank statement so i can have a look at what you make please

 

% a bit exagerated and we dont get contractors because we have the skills to do things ourselves. Why do you have such a dim few on farmers? you sound like the antis ill informed and un educated on the subject.

are you saying tax payers arnt entitled to know were its being spent,i know 1 million a year is paid to one lowther estate farm each year,now that is justone of many of thier farms,imagine what the church gets and all the dukes and earls,its nt right,most farmers dont deserve it.

 

[WILF 46,685]

My chickens are only 15ft at the moment but wait till I really start pumping the juice into them !!.......I may have to order a new Claas to bring it all home !

[Blackdog92 2,047]

 

 

 

no i dont think there in th minority at all,all you here from farmers is what a struggle it is,you are getting massive amounts of the tax payers money,it dosnt have to be a big farm to get 100,000 pound a year,then you get extra help with fencing and hedges or walls,upto 80percent grant on buildng maintenance or new build, you get that much money you get contractors to do your work for you,and please answer me here,all the figures the amounts you got were available for public viewing, as it should be being the tax payers money,why has this stopped,

I couldnt tell you why it stopped because i dont know bit could you pm me a bank statement so i can have a look at what you make please

 

% a bit exagerated and we dont get contractors because we have the skills to do things ourselves. Why do you have such a dim few on farmers? you sound like the antis ill informed and un educated on the subject.

are you saying tax payers arnt entitled to know were its being spent,i know 1 million a year is paid to one lowther estate farm each year,now that is justone of many of thier farms,imagine what the church gets and all the dukes and earls,its nt right,most farmers dont deserve it.

 

like i said you dont understand. You cant compare a massive estate like lowther that owns loads of farms and houses to a normal farmer. Lowthers own farm is 3000 acres of lowland by its self not adding everything else they own.

[Blackdog92 2,047]

My chickens are only 15ft at the moment but wait till I really start pumping the juice into them !!.......I may have to order a new Claas to bring it all home !

Just a claas your putting yourself down there get a Fendt you could buy 3 claas tractors for the price of 1 Fendt.

Edited December 11, 2015 by Blackdog92

[WILF 46,685]

 

My chickens are only 15ft at the moment but wait till I really start pumping the juice into them !!.......I may have to order a new Claas to bring it all home !

Just a claas your putting yourself down there get a Fendt you could buy 3 claas tractors for the price of 1 Fendt.

I'm thinking of the taxpayer !

[air gun ant 1,666]

 

 

 

 

no i dont think there in th minority at all,all you here from farmers is what a struggle it is,you are getting massive amounts of the tax payers money,it dosnt have to be a big farm to get 100,000 pound a year,then you get extra help with fencing and hedges or walls,upto 80percent grant on buildng maintenance or new build, you get that much money you get contractors to do your work for you,and please answer me here,all the figures the amounts you got were available for public viewing, as it should be being the tax payers money,why has this stopped,

I couldnt tell you why it stopped because i dont know bit could you pm me a bank statement so i can have a look at what you make please

 

% a bit exagerated and we dont get contractors because we have the skills to do things ourselves. Why do you have such a dim few on farmers? you sound like the antis ill informed and un educated on the subject.

are you saying tax payers arnt entitled to know were its being spent,i know 1 million a year is paid to one lowther estate farm each year,now that is justone of many of thier farms,imagine what the church gets and all the dukes and earls,its nt right,most farmers dont deserve it.

like i said you dont understand. You cant compare a massive estate like lowther that owns loads of farms and houses to a normal farmer. Lowthers own farm is 3000 acres of lowland by its self not adding everything else they own.

fordson, can I ask what qualifies you to even be commenting on this thread? You've clearly never done a days farm work in your life! Have you ever actually met a farmer? This is a hunting site so I'd assume you have probably tried asking for permission at some point? We're so arragont and condescending then? One of my best mates leases a farm from lowther I can tell you now that ain't all rainbows and butterfly's! It's not a perticularly big farm but you try working (at least) 12 hours a day 365 days a year! And he can't afford to employ anybody. I use my holidays from work to go up and help a week at a time because he NEEDS the help!