NEWKID 27,042 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Here's a thought if more people supported Christianity maybe all the mosques that appear might not get the government grants and planning permissions they currently enjoy, MAYBE MORE PEOPLE WOULD STAND UP AND SAY NO THIS IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY AND YOU CAN NOT DO THOSE THINGS HERE. Aparthy is such a terrible condition and this country is very ill with it IMO. Do you think if everyone were practicing Christians and said the same as what everyone is saying now anyway it would make a difference?We the common people have no voice, Christian, atheist or whatever... Most atheists are quite happy living too the morals of our Christian society, most are happy to attend Christian ceremonies (weddings, christenings, funerals), obeying the laws originally set from Christianity... Is it really our fault because we do not believe in God and everything that is written in the bible, that our country is being eroded?? Surely not!! Edited December 7, 2015 by NEWKID 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,445 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Not religious myself but if I had to fall into one group it would be Christian To say the Uk is not a Christian is just another chip away at our traditions and identity All part of the bigger plan to make us a nation of mongrels with no identity or heritage to be proud of Why not start to slowly change Christmas and Easter maybe give them a new name Like ostra or yule? ;-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Here's a thought if more people supported Christianity maybe all the mosques that appear might not get the government grants and planning permissions they currently enjoy, MAYBE MORE PEOPLE WOULD STAND UP AND SAY NO THIS IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY AND YOU CAN NOT DO THOSE THINGS HERE. Aparthy is such a terrible condition and this country is very ill with it IMO. Do you think if everyone were practicing Christians and said the same as what everyone is saying now anyway it would make a difference?We the common people have no voice, Christian, atheist or whatever... Most atheists are quite happy living too the morals of our Christian society, most are happy to attend Christian ceremonies (weddings, christenings, funerals), obeying the laws originally set from Christianity... Is it really our fault because we do not believe in God and everything that is written in the bible, that our country is being eroded?? Surely not!! How can one person take objection to the building of mosques the burkas being worn the demand by Muslims to have equality moved to favour Islamic practices, sharia law, halal meat everywhere etc if one does not have their own faith to combat it? How can a non believer want to get married or have their children Christened these are things which I do not understand. St Augustine brought over Christianity to these shores around 1500 years ago and it's the beliefs of these teachings that have formed the pillars of our morality and society, it's what generations of our ancestors have defended our shores for. It's just a shame that it's no longer "cool" to have faith, let me remind everyone that if anything was achieved by the dozens of pages and hundreds of posts on the God threads it is this, non believing takes a certain amount of "belief" as much as what Christian faith does. Said it many times before whatever path you choose is up to the person concerned but you can't bring a knife to a gun fight. This is only my opinion. ATB 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Here's a thought if more people supported Christianity maybe all the mosques that appear might not get the government grants and planning permissions they currently enjoy, MAYBE MORE PEOPLE WOULD STAND UP AND SAY NO THIS IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY AND YOU CAN NOT DO THOSE THINGS HERE. Aparthy is such a terrible condition and this country is very ill with it IMO. Do you think if everyone were practicing Christians and said the same as what everyone is saying now anyway it would make a difference?We the common people have no voice, Christian, atheist or whatever... Most atheists are quite happy living too the morals of our Christian society, most are happy to attend Christian ceremonies (weddings, christenings, funerals), obeying the laws originally set from Christianity... Is it really our fault because we do not believe in God and everything that is written in the bible, that our country is being eroded?? Surely not!! How can one person take objection to the building of mosques the burkas being worn the demand by Muslims to have equality moved to favour Islamic practices, sharia law, halal meat everywhere etc if one does not have their own faith to combat it? How can a non believer want to get married or have their children Christened these are things which I do not understand. St Augustine brought over Christianity to these shores around 1500 years ago and it's the beliefs of these teachings that have formed the pillars of our morality and society, it's what generations of our ancestors have defended our shores for. It's just a shame that it's no longer "cool" to have faith, let me remind everyone that if anything was achieved by the dozens of pages and hundreds of posts on the God threads it is this, non believing takes a certain amount of "belief" as much as what Christian faith does. Said it many times before whatever path you choose is up to the person concerned but you can't bring a knife to a gun fight. This is only my opinion. ATB I don't think you need faith to object to other faiths trying to insidiously undermine your own country. I didn't get married in church and my kids aren't christened, but that doesn't mean to say I want to give free reign to other religions to take over. Just because some other religions tell you when you must pray and how you must pray, at least Christianity gives you the freedom to express your faith however you wish (or not). In case anyone has got the wrong end of the stick, this thread is not about god or no god or religion vs religion, it is about the British way of life being changed in order to placate minorities. If the do-gooders wanted to change this country to driving on the right because it might suit some minorities better, I'd feel exactly the same as I do now. Britain = British culture, British traditions, British values, British way of life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Walshie, what you doing tomorrow mate? Fancy coming to church! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,042 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Here's a thought if more people supported Christianity maybe all the mosques that appear might not get the government grants and planning permissions they currently enjoy, MAYBE MORE PEOPLE WOULD STAND UP AND SAY NO THIS IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY AND YOU CAN NOT DO THOSE THINGS HERE. Aparthy is such a terrible condition and this country is very ill with it IMO. Do you think if everyone were practicing Christians and said the same as what everyone is saying now anyway it would make a difference?We the common people have no voice, Christian, atheist or whatever... Most atheists are quite happy living too the morals of our Christian society, most are happy to attend Christian ceremonies (weddings, christenings, funerals), obeying the laws originally set from Christianity... Is it really our fault because we do not believe in God and everything that is written in the bible, that our country is being eroded?? Surely not!! How can one person take objection to the building of mosques the burkas being worn the demand by Muslims to have equality moved to favour Islamic practices, sharia law, halal meat everywhere etc if one does not have their own faith to combat it? How can a non believer want to get married or have their children Christened these are things which I do not understand. St Augustine brought over Christianity to these shores around 1500 years ago and it's the beliefs of these teachings that have formed the pillars of our morality and society, it's what generations of our ancestors have defended our shores for. It's just a shame that it's no longer "cool" to have faith, let me remind everyone that if anything was achieved by the dozens of pages and hundreds of posts on the God threads it is this, non believing takes a certain amount of "belief" as much as what Christian faith does. Said it many times before whatever path you choose is up to the person concerned but you can't bring a knife to a gun fight. This is only my opinion. ATB Perhaps there lies the answer?? How can someone who has no faith combat it??... We are all divided by religion.. I love my country, and hate to see whole communities changed forever, I am very loyal to friends and family, I think I have good morals, and by all means live in a very Christian way.... I don't feel the need to believe in God to reassure me that I am living the right way... As much as religion can bring people together in a very positive way, it can as quickly divide... I really can't see how having faith will combat the problems we have anymore than not?? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Walshie, what you doing tomorrow mate? Fancy coming to church! Sorry mate. Washing my hair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,396 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 There's as much right to be a non believer as there is to be a believer of any faith... all of the non believers don't want Islam pushed on them or any other religion same as Christians don't ..I don't think it matters what gang you belong to its a basic right that everyone should have...to suggest that we should all go to church and pretend to be believers would just be hypocritical ...it might benefit the cause but it would hurt the sole. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Walshie, what you doing tomorrow mate? Fancy coming to church! Sorry mate. Washing my hair. :( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,431 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 There's as much right to be a non believer as there is to be a believer of any faith... all of the non believers don't want Islam pushed on them or any other religion same as Christians don't ..I don't think it matters what gang you belong to its a basic right that everyone should have...to suggest that we should all go to church and pretend to be believers would just be hypocritical ...it might benefit the cause but it would hurt the sole. Some of the most outspoken critics of Islam in the media are atheist (Dawkins, Hitchens etc) and I'd say they do more for the "cause" than Britain First "crusader" types... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Here's a thought if more people supported Christianity maybe all the mosques that appear might not get the government grants and planning permissions they currently enjoy, MAYBE MORE PEOPLE WOULD STAND UP AND SAY NO THIS IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY AND YOU CAN NOT DO THOSE THINGS HERE. Aparthy is such a terrible condition and this country is very ill with it IMO. Do you think if everyone were practicing Christians and said the same as what everyone is saying now anyway it would make a difference?We the common people have no voice, Christian, atheist or whatever... Most atheists are quite happy living too the morals of our Christian society, most are happy to attend Christian ceremonies (weddings, christenings, funerals), obeying the laws originally set from Christianity... Is it really our fault because we do not believe in God and everything that is written in the bible, that our country is being eroded?? Surely not!! How can one person take objection to the building of mosques the burkas being worn the demand by Muslims to have equality moved to favour Islamic practices, sharia law, halal meat everywhere etc if one does not have their own faith to combat it? How can a non believer want to get married or have their children Christened these are things which I do not understand. St Augustine brought over Christianity to these shores around 1500 years ago and it's the beliefs of these teachings that have formed the pillars of our morality and society, it's what generations of our ancestors have defended our shores for. It's just a shame that it's no longer "cool" to have faith, let me remind everyone that if anything was achieved by the dozens of pages and hundreds of posts on the God threads it is this, non believing takes a certain amount of "belief" as much as what Christian faith does. Said it many times before whatever path you choose is up to the person concerned but you can't bring a knife to a gun fight. This is only my opinion. ATB I don't think you need faith to object to other faiths trying to insidiously undermine your own country. I didn't get married in church and my kids aren't christened, but that doesn't mean to say I want to give free reign to other religions to take over. Just because some other religions tell you when you must pray and how you must pray, at least Christianity gives you the freedom to express your faith however you wish (or not). In case anyone has got the wrong end of the stick, this thread is not about god or no god or religion vs religion, it is about the British way of life being changed in order to placate minorities. If the do-gooders wanted to change this country to driving on the right because it might suit some minorities better, I'd feel exactly the same as I do now. Britain = British culture, British traditions, British values, British way of life. Agreed last thing we need is another does God exist thread, my comments are made in reaction to "why is this a Christian country." It just is and to say it isn't is incorrect and playing only into the hands of the nutters who wish to harm us. In the words of Forrest Gump "That's all I have to say about that.." 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
abarrett 462 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 all i say is GOD BLESS YOU ALL, believers and non believers. christmas is just weeks away, to celibrate the birth of Christ. something every body celibrates[/quoteI though December the 25th Was santas birthday Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 all i say is GOD BLESS YOU ALL, believers and non believers. christmas is just weeks away, to celibrate the birth of Christ. something every body celibrates[/quoteI though December the 25th Was santas birthday December 6th. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Christianity is just last centuries Islam. . . . . discuss. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 All this talk of Christian values and laws. . . . . I would hazard a guess that plenty of the folk spouting that have done plenty of things, even recently that do not fit in with christian values and laws. And it comes to something when it takes a religion or faith to make you be a decent human being. Ive no religion at all, and i try my hardest to be good to others and the world around me because I think its the right thing to do, not because some organisation told me, or because i'm scared of ever lasting damnation. Plenty of christians have done terrible things such as murder, rape and peadophilia. . . . does that make those things Christian acts? 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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