neems 2,406 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I suppose all of us atheists are hypocrites celebrating this Christian festivity...... Right that's it I'm banning it in our house, this'll save me a fortune!! Which part of it is xtian? the tree? giving presents to kids? the (female?) 'angel' on top of the tree? A wizard visiting in the night? I've absolutely no idea mate... I watch the kids nativity, baby jesus, Mary, Donkey, Angels, Kings, Shephards etc... I put the tree up and put a Star on top I love watching the kids christmas carol service in local church They have presents, I have presents, the wife has presents I also make them believe a man in a red suit with a big beard flies through the night on sleigh pulled by reindeers and delivers all the presents I don't believe in god I don't believe in Father Christmas (well not completely, just in case lol).... I'm a hypocrite... I took the kids up the Christmas market last night, it's on the Cathedral Green... We sat and had a home made pizza cooked in wood burner, listened to Christmas music, looking at the most beautiful building in our City ... and felt Christmassy... You're not a hypocrite was my point,it's a much older European festival that christians adopted,but there's nothing christian about it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,042 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I suppose all of us atheists are hypocrites celebrating this Christian festivity...... Right that's it I'm banning it in our house, this'll save me a fortune!! Which part of it is xtian? the tree? giving presents to kids? the (female?) 'angel' on top of the tree? A wizard visiting in the night? I've absolutely no idea mate... I watch the kids nativity, baby jesus, Mary, Donkey, Angels, Kings, Shephards etc... I put the tree up and put a Star on top I love watching the kids christmas carol service in local church They have presents, I have presents, the wife has presents I also make them believe a man in a red suit with a big beard flies through the night on sleigh pulled by reindeers and delivers all the presents I don't believe in god I don't believe in Father Christmas (well not completely, just in case lol).... I'm a hypocrite... I took the kids up the Christmas market last night, it's on the Cathedral Green... We sat and had a home made pizza cooked in wood burner, listened to Christmas music, looking at the most beautiful building in our City ... and felt Christmassy... You're not a hypocrite was my point,it's a much older European festival that christians adopted,but there's nothing christian about it. Surely a lot of our traditions are thousands of years in the making, constantly evolving and changing.. people taking what they want from them and leaving behind what they don't.. I'm obviously nowhere near as well read as you are on these subject mate, it's just not my interest... my point was I still follow the tradition (religious or otherwise).. because I enjoy it and particularly the kids do.. not because I believe in anything particularly.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) I suppose all of us atheists are hypocrites celebrating this Christian festivity...... Right that's it I'm banning it in our house, this'll save me a fortune!! Which part of it is xtian? the tree? giving presents to kids? the (female?) 'angel' on top of the tree? A wizard visiting in the night? I've absolutely no idea mate... I watch the kids nativity, baby jesus, Mary, Donkey, Angels, Kings, Shephards etc... I put the tree up and put a Star on top I love watching the kids christmas carol service in local church They have presents, I have presents, the wife has presents I also make them believe a man in a red suit with a big beard flies through the night on sleigh pulled by reindeers and delivers all the presents I don't believe in god I don't believe in Father Christmas (well not completely, just in case lol).... I'm a hypocrite... I took the kids up the Christmas market last night, it's on the Cathedral Green... We sat and had a home made pizza cooked in wood burner, listened to Christmas music, looking at the most beautiful building in our City ... and felt Christmassy... You're not a hypocrite was my point,it's a much older European festival that christians adopted,but there's nothing christian about it. Surely a lot of our traditions are thousands of years in the making, constantly evolving and changing.. people taking what they want from them and leaving behind what they don't.. I'm obviously nowhere near as well read as you are on these subject mate, it's just not my interest... my point was I still follow the tradition (religious or otherwise).. because I enjoy it and particularly the kids do.. not because I believe in anything particularly.... It all descends from European paganism,which was almost the same all over Europe,whether that was Finland,Spain or Greece. The tradition was kept alive when the rituals were banned by the christians,so it couldn't be too obvious. 'Father christmas' is the sorcerer who brought the possessions of the dead to their descendants (presents),the tree represents the god Heimdallr and the angel is a Valkyrie. There's a lot more to it,but your ancestors have followed this tradition for a very long time if you're European,it doesn't mean they believed in yahweh or magic. Edited December 7, 2015 by neems 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I wonder where this thread is going......... But even Francie can't turn this into a does god exist topic as it's nothing to do with that. It's to do with our country constantly giving up our rights and traditions to appease minorities who mean little to me. So button it, geek. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,431 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 It's all very well saying Britain is a Christian country but the real question is does God exist? Francie, care to weigh in on the subject? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I suppose all of us atheists are hypocrites celebrating this Christian festivity...... Right that's it I'm banning it in our house, this'll save me a fortune!! Which part of it is xtian? the tree? giving presents to kids? the (female?) 'angel' on top of the tree? A wizard visiting in the night? I've absolutely no idea mate... I watch the kids nativity, baby jesus, Mary, Donkey, Angels, Kings, Shephards etc... I put the tree up and put a Star on top I love watching the kids christmas carol service in local church They have presents, I have presents, the wife has presents I also make them believe a man in a red suit with a big beard flies through the night on sleigh pulled by reindeers and delivers all the presents I don't believe in god I don't believe in Father Christmas (well not completely, just in case lol).... I'm a hypocrite... I took the kids up the Christmas market last night, it's on the Cathedral Green... We sat and had a home made pizza cooked in wood burner, listened to Christmas music, looking at the most beautiful building in our City ... and felt Christmassy... You're not a hypocrite was my point,it's a much older European festival that christians adopted,but there's nothing christian about it. Surely a lot of our traditions are thousands of years in the making, constantly evolving and changing.. people taking what they want from them and leaving behind what they don't.. I'm obviously nowhere near as well read as you are on these subject mate, it's just not my interest... my point was I still follow the tradition (religious or otherwise).. because I enjoy it and particularly the kids do.. not because I believe in anything particularly.... It all descends from European paganism,which was almost the same all over Europe,whether that was Finland,Spain or Greece. The tradition was kept alive when the rituals were banned by the christians,so it couldn't be too obvious. 'Father christmas' is the sorcerer who brought the possessions of the dead to their descendants (presents),the tree represents the god Heimdallr and the angel is a Valkyrie. There's a lot more to it,but your ancestors have followed this tradition for a very long time if you're European,it doesn't mean they believed in yahweh or magic. Your rights neems, another pagan ritual mixed with Christianity, all the bollocks of trees stars, mixed in with the birth of Christ, which is not Dec 25th, that's the only reason paganism survived, cause if they didn't mix with Christianity it would have gone extinct because all it is is worshipping objects of nature which a supposed pagan spirit has entered. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 It's all very well saying Britain is a Christian country but the real question is does God exist? Francie, care to weigh in on the subject? I'm just checking to see if being a bellend warrants warning points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I suppose all of us atheists are hypocrites celebrating this Christian festivity...... Right that's it I'm banning it in our house, this'll save me a fortune!! Which part of it is xtian? the tree? giving presents to kids? the (female?) 'angel' on top of the tree? A wizard visiting in the night? I've absolutely no idea mate... I watch the kids nativity, baby jesus, Mary, Donkey, Angels, Kings, Shephards etc... I put the tree up and put a Star on top I love watching the kids christmas carol service in local church They have presents, I have presents, the wife has presents I also make them believe a man in a red suit with a big beard flies through the night on sleigh pulled by reindeers and delivers all the presents I don't believe in god I don't believe in Father Christmas (well not completely, just in case lol).... I'm a hypocrite... I took the kids up the Christmas market last night, it's on the Cathedral Green... We sat and had a home made pizza cooked in wood burner, listened to Christmas music, looking at the most beautiful building in our City ... and felt Christmassy... You're not a hypocrite was my point,it's a much older European festival that christians adopted,but there's nothing christian about it. Surely a lot of our traditions are thousands of years in the making, constantly evolving and changing.. people taking what they want from them and leaving behind what they don't.. I'm obviously nowhere near as well read as you are on these subject mate, it's just not my interest... my point was I still follow the tradition (religious or otherwise).. because I enjoy it and particularly the kids do.. not because I believe in anything particularly.... It all descends from European paganism,which was almost the same all over Europe,whether that was Finland,Spain or Greece. The tradition was kept alive when the rituals were banned by the christians,so it couldn't be too obvious. 'Father christmas' is the sorcerer who brought the possessions of the dead to their descendants (presents),the tree represents the god Heimdallr and the angel is a Valkyrie. There's a lot more to it,but your ancestors have followed this tradition for a very long time if you're European,it doesn't mean they believed in yahweh or magic. Your rights neems, another pagan ritual mixed with Christianity, all the bollocks of trees stars, mixed in with the birth of Christ, which is not Dec 25th, that's the only reason paganism survived, cause if they didn't mix with Christianity it would have gone extinct because all it is is worshipping objects of nature which a supposed pagan spirit has entered. Paganism has only ever declined when being a pagan meant death,worse it was usually of the best and brightest (in Europe the longer the country's been xtian, the lower the average IQ,coincidence?),as soon as that stopped it began to thrive again. Christianity has always had the opposite problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,431 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 It's all very well saying Britain is a Christian country but the real question is does God exist? Francie, care to weigh in on the subject? I'm just checking to see if being a bellend warrants warning points. Come on pal we both know if that was the case I would of been banned a long time ago 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Francie 6,368 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I wonder where this thread is going......... But even Francie can't turn this into a does god exist topic as it's nothing to do with that. It's to do with our country constantly giving up our rights and traditions to appease minorities who mean little to me. So button it, geek. Your right walshie, an I agree with you, whoever an whatever is trying to get rid of Christianity why? Because if they get rid of it, theres nothing to stop, the psychopaths liberal lefty from takeover. A good example will be America, its has gone to the dogs the last sixty years, when the good book was taken out schools, an replaced with evoloutionism, soceity has broke down, an I blame secularism. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,042 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 It's all very well saying Britain is a Christian country but the real question is does God exist? Francie, care to weigh in on the subject? I'm just checking to see if being a bellend warrants warning points. Come on pal we both know if that was the case I would of been banned a long time ago f**k me there'd be no one left if that was the case.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I suppose all of us atheists are hypocrites celebrating this Christian festivity...... Right that's it I'm banning it in our house, this'll save me a fortune!! Which part of it is xtian? the tree? giving presents to kids? the (female?) 'angel' on top of the tree? A wizard visiting in the night? I've absolutely no idea mate... I watch the kids nativity, baby jesus, Mary, Donkey, Angels, Kings, Shephards etc... I put the tree up and put a Star on top I love watching the kids christmas carol service in local church They have presents, I have presents, the wife has presents I also make them believe a man in a red suit with a big beard flies through the night on sleigh pulled by reindeers and delivers all the presents I don't believe in god I don't believe in Father Christmas (well not completely, just in case lol).... I'm a hypocrite... I took the kids up the Christmas market last night, it's on the Cathedral Green... We sat and had a home made pizza cooked in wood burner, listened to Christmas music, looking at the most beautiful building in our City ... and felt Christmassy... You're not a hypocrite was my point,it's a much older European festival that christians adopted,but there's nothing christian about it. Surely a lot of our traditions are thousands of years in the making, constantly evolving and changing.. people taking what they want from them and leaving behind what they don't.. I'm obviously nowhere near as well read as you are on these subject mate, it's just not my interest... my point was I still follow the tradition (religious or otherwise).. because I enjoy it and particularly the kids do.. not because I believe in anything particularly.... It all descends from European paganism,which was almost the same all over Europe,whether that was Finland,Spain or Greece. The tradition was kept alive when the rituals were banned by the christians,so it couldn't be too obvious. 'Father christmas' is the sorcerer who brought the possessions of the dead to their descendants (presents),the tree represents the god Heimdallr and the angel is a Valkyrie. There's a lot more to it,but your ancestors have followed this tradition for a very long time if you're European,it doesn't mean they believed in yahweh or magic. Your rights neems, another pagan ritual mixed with Christianity, all the bollocks of trees stars, mixed in with the birth of Christ, which is not Dec 25th, that's the only reason paganism survived, cause if they didn't mix with Christianity it would have gone extinct because all it is is worshipping objects of nature which a supposed pagan spirit has entered. Paganism has only ever declined when being a pagan meant death,worse it was usually of the best and brightest (in Europe the longer the country's been xtian, the lower the average IQ,coincidence?),as soon as that stopped it began to thrive again. Christianity has always had the opposite problem So pagans have a higher IQ than Christians, lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,042 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I suppose all of us atheists are hypocrites celebrating this Christian festivity...... Right that's it I'm banning it in our house, this'll save me a fortune!! Which part of it is xtian? the tree? giving presents to kids? the (female?) 'angel' on top of the tree? A wizard visiting in the night? I've absolutely no idea mate... I watch the kids nativity, baby jesus, Mary, Donkey, Angels, Kings, Shephards etc... I put the tree up and put a Star on top I love watching the kids christmas carol service in local church They have presents, I have presents, the wife has presents I also make them believe a man in a red suit with a big beard flies through the night on sleigh pulled by reindeers and delivers all the presents I don't believe in god I don't believe in Father Christmas (well not completely, just in case lol).... I'm a hypocrite... I took the kids up the Christmas market last night, it's on the Cathedral Green... We sat and had a home made pizza cooked in wood burner, listened to Christmas music, looking at the most beautiful building in our City ... and felt Christmassy... You're not a hypocrite was my point,it's a much older European festival that christians adopted,but there's nothing christian about it. Surely a lot of our traditions are thousands of years in the making, constantly evolving and changing.. people taking what they want from them and leaving behind what they don't.. I'm obviously nowhere near as well read as you are on these subject mate, it's just not my interest... my point was I still follow the tradition (religious or otherwise).. because I enjoy it and particularly the kids do.. not because I believe in anything particularly.... It all descends from European paganism,which was almost the same all over Europe,whether that was Finland,Spain or Greece. The tradition was kept alive when the rituals were banned by the christians,so it couldn't be too obvious. 'Father christmas' is the sorcerer who brought the possessions of the dead to their descendants (presents),the tree represents the god Heimdallr and the angel is a Valkyrie. There's a lot more to it,but your ancestors have followed this tradition for a very long time if you're European,it doesn't mean they believed in yahweh or magic. Cheers for the info mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Not religious myself but if I had to fall into one group it would be Christian To say the Uk is not a Christian is just another chip away at our traditions and identity All part of the bigger plan to make us a nation of mongrels with no identity or heritage to be proud of Why not start to slowly change Christmas and Easter maybe give them a new name Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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