France Elections: National Front Leads In Regional Polls

[Lenmcharristar 9,816]

labour have proven time ands again theyre a snake in british politics, and corbyn is now head of that snake, out to destroy britain from within

[jacknife 2,005]

If you say so pal I'm really not worried.

I don't think you need to be worried they may actually do something positive

[neems 2,406]

 

 

 

 

 

Front Nationale aren't extreme,they're nothing like the NF past or present.

 

I think that's why the media insists on calling them the National front rather Front Nationale,to tarnish their name.

They try there best to label them as far right but the public are seeing through it

That'd be because they ARE a far right party

 

Why are you so afraid of the label? You should be proud of your political ideology. I have no qualms labelling myself far left.

 

Have the courage of your convictions.

I wouldn't class them as far right

 

The reason the media try and say Front National and Ukip are Far right is to try and scare people away from voting

 

Most people would class far right as the NF/BNP and the left and media find it easy to destroy these groups

 

The far left and far right will get nowhere and this in my opinion is why the left and the media are desperate for the public to think they are some kind of far right Nazis

Honestly I don't care what you would class them as, people that actually know what they're talking about class them as far right

At the end of the day it doesn't matter what I would class them as or those people who know what their talking about say

 

They are gaining In power so you're going to have to do something fast as a huge portion of people support these groups......we cannot say the same for the far left

 

 

The people who know what they're talking about know that the left/right spectrum goes from anarchy on the far right and the far left would be extreme statism.

 

Nationalism can be left or right wing so can internationalism.

[Born Hunter 17,780]

The political spectrum is more accurately represented in two dimensions. The conventional left right spectrum is a bit misleading.

Edited December 7, 2015 by Born Hunter

[WILF 47,217]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The left will do the usual and try and play it down and say the right will get nowhere

 

Well the right didn't get too far in Oldham last week did they

I wouldn't have expects it to have won in Oldham

But the third biggest party in the Uk is Ukip and it will get bigger

Across europe the right is on the rise

LibDems were the third biggest party for decades and much bigger than UKIP could ever hope to be, look where that got them Their leader has failed to be elected to Westminster 5 times FFS, they're a joke party.

When you can't even beat a weakened Labour party in a by election you know you're in trouble.

Keep playing them down but only time will tell

Like it or not the right is on the rise across Europe

The same shite everyone was spouting before the GE, how did that work out for you? Oh that's right, you ended up with less MPs than you started with your leader couldn't even win his seat on the fifth attempt

BGD you know I normally agree with you but you know as well as I do that's crap. How the voting system works in this country is not a true indication of public feeling. Is SNP really many times more popular than UKIP? No.

I'm honestly shocked we're disagreeing with each other!

Of course you're right about the electoral system but UKIP and their supporters were saying they'd win a load of seats in the GE knowing full well that the GE is done under FPTP, they still failed to live up to their own predictions. They can't blame the electoral system when before the election they were so sure they'd win a load of seats under that same system. They didn't get any MPs because not enough people got out and voted for them, simple as that.

The apathy of voters cannot be underestimated. I think voting should be compulsory. Then we'd see what's what.

Oh good we're back to agreeing with each other

Voting is compulsory in Australia and it doesn't seem to cause them any problems, if you really can't bring yourself to vote for any of the candidates standing you can just spoil your ballot. I reckon it'd be a good thing for democracy, the more people out voting the better

 

Of course if UKIPs message really resonanted strongly with a majority of the British public they would of turned out in their droves to vote for them, like the Scots did for the SNP They couldn't even get their figurehead elected when they threw all the party's resources at his constituency.

The majority of voters in England think the sun won't rise and earth won't turn if they vote for anyone else except the established two.......wouldn't want to miss out on that cheap credit deal for the new telly in the name of freedom now would we !

[Mickey Finn 3,014]

Nationalism? Compulsory voting?

 

Well I'd like to offer a word of caution on these. Nationalism is what caused both World Wars, and a lot of additional blood shed as well. So, don't think it's the answer to all of your problems. It's a whole new book of problems. Extremism is the main component of all the problems we seem to face today. This is just as true in my country as those of Europe. Our own government is paralyzed by it and we are most likely going to choose the right in the next election cycle. These men are cowards and they'll do anything to look brave. So beware.

 

ATB

[The Seeker 3,048]

Nationalism? Compulsory voting?

 

Well I'd like to offer a word of caution on these. Nationalism is what caused both World Wars, and a lot of additional blood shed as well. So, don't think it's the answer to all of your problems. It's a whole new book of problems. Extremism is the main component of all the problems we seem to face today. This is just as true in my country as those of Europe. Our own government is paralyzed by it and we are most likely going to choose the right in the next election cycle. These men are cowards and they'll do anything to look brave. So beware.

 

ATB

Thing is pal we are at war, the war with Islamic extremeists, just because they don't put on uniforms doesn't mean they are no less of a threat than a standard army.

 

You may think this statement is a little over the top but let me ask, do you think that if ISIS were to obtain a nuclear device they wouldn't detonate it in a major European or US city? Of course they would, they do not care, life to them means nothing.

 

The difference between right wing of today and the facist right wing of the 1930's is miles apart however socialists and liberals play the Nazi card at every opportunitity to scare and stop the working classes from voting for them.

It will change it has to or in 20-30 years the good old USA will be fighting the next major conflict on its own without us because believe me it's only a matter of time before top positions of govt, police, army are held by Muslims. Then we are f*cked.

 

Sad thing is it's my kids and their kids who will suffer the most

[Mickey Finn 3,014]

 

Nationalism? Compulsory voting?

 

Well I'd like to offer a word of caution on these. Nationalism is what caused both World Wars, and a lot of additional blood shed as well. So, don't think it's the answer to all of your problems. It's a whole new book of problems. Extremism is the main component of all the problems we seem to face today. This is just as true in my country as those of Europe. Our own government is paralyzed by it and we are most likely going to choose the right in the next election cycle. These men are cowards and they'll do anything to look brave. So beware.

 

ATB

Thing is pal we are at war, the war with Islamic extremeists, just because they don't put on uniforms doesn't mean they are no less of a threat than a standard army.

 

You may think this statement is a little over the top but let me ask, do you think that if ISIS were to obtain a nuclear device they wouldn't detonate it in a major European or US city? Of course they would, they do not care, life to them means nothing.

 

The difference between right wing of today and the facist right wing of the 1930's is miles apart however socialists and liberals play the Nazi card at every opportunitity to scare and stop the working classes from voting for them.

It will change it has to or in 20-30 years the good old USA will be fighting the next major conflict on its own without us because believe me it's only a matter of time before top positions of govt, police, army are held by Muslims. Then we are f*cked.

 

Sad thing is it's my kids and their kids who will suffer the most

 

I'm not sure you are wrong in your prediction for the future. I guess Islam will expand to fill the void of secularism. Here in certain communities they have taken over and the call to prayer is played throughout the day. While the church bells fall silent one by one.

 

But you are wrong to separate the Right of the past with the Right of today. The Left as well for that matter. Each will go as far to the extreme as they are allowed to. Usually in times of duress is when they make their moves. By the way, this is a time of duress. So don't be fooled into thinking Nationalism will solve your problems that is all I'm saying.

[neems 2,406]

 

 

Nationalism? Compulsory voting?

 

Well I'd like to offer a word of caution on these. Nationalism is what caused both World Wars, and a lot of additional blood shed as well. So, don't think it's the answer to all of your problems. It's a whole new book of problems. Extremism is the main component of all the problems we seem to face today. This is just as true in my country as those of Europe. Our own government is paralyzed by it and we are most likely going to choose the right in the next election cycle. These men are cowards and they'll do anything to look brave. So beware.

 

ATB

Thing is pal we are at war, the war with Islamic extremeists, just because they don't put on uniforms doesn't mean they are no less of a threat than a standard army.

 

You may think this statement is a little over the top but let me ask, do you think that if ISIS were to obtain a nuclear device they wouldn't detonate it in a major European or US city? Of course they would, they do not care, life to them means nothing.

 

The difference between right wing of today and the facist right wing of the 1930's is miles apart however socialists and liberals play the Nazi card at every opportunitity to scare and stop the working classes from voting for them.

It will change it has to or in 20-30 years the good old USA will be fighting the next major conflict on its own without us because believe me it's only a matter of time before top positions of govt, police, army are held by Muslims. Then we are f*cked.

 

Sad thing is it's my kids and their kids who will suffer the most

 

I'm not sure you are wrong in your prediction for the future. I guess Islam will expand to fill the void of secularism. Here in certain communities they have taken over and the call to prayer is played throughout the day. While the church bells fall silent one by one.

 

But you are wrong to separate the Right of the past with the Right of today. The Left as well for that matter. Each will go as far to the extreme as they are allowed to. Usually in times of duress is when they make their moves. By the way, this is a time of duress. So don't be fooled into thinking Nationalism will solve your problems that is all I'm saying.

 

 

Without nationalism,Europe would have been lost forever to the Muslims.

Russia,Japan and Europe to the Mongols.,Serbia to the Turks etc etc

 

It's the only way to preserve real diversity on earth.

[lanesra 3,994]

People destroyed Enoch Powell for his views , he was ostracised for them . . Now when we look back most realise the man wasn't far wrong . . . Now for UkIP I believe in 40 / 50 yrs time people will look back & realise the chance to actually do something good was wasted on your Tony Blairs , David Cameron's & Jeremy Corbyns ect ect .

[mackay 3,384]

 

The left will do the usual and try and play it down and say the right will get nowhere

Well the right didn't get too far in Oldham last week did they

 

 

Muslim population, postal voting, spineless gits like yourself, all contributing factors.

[BGD 6,436]

 

 

The left will do the usual and try and play it down and say the right will get nowhere

Well the right didn't get too far in Oldham last week did they

 

 

Muslim population, postal voting, spineless gits like yourself, all contributing factors.

 

 

So democracy then?

 

The population of the area voted and they rejected UKIP so funny to see the excuses come rolling out when right up to the moment the result was announced UKIP had been so sure they'd win or come within 100 votes of Labour.

 

10,000 votes behind Labour in one of their target constituencies

[DIDO.1 22,844]

Why does that please you so much?

Are you glad labour won?

[DIDO.1 22,844]

Open door immigration and the hunting ban....those things will mean my son won't enjoy the England we have...and you seem to revel in the fact we get upset.

[BGD 6,436]

Why does that please you so much?

Are you glad labour won?

 

It's more that I'm glad UKIP were humiliated once again :laugh: