walshie 2,804 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 The left will do the usual and try and play it down and say the right will get nowhereWell the right didn't get too far in Oldham last week did they I wouldn't have expects it to have won in Oldham But the third biggest party in the Uk is Ukip and it will get bigger Across europe the right is on the rise LibDems were the third biggest party for decades and much bigger than UKIP could ever hope to be, look where that got them Their leader has failed to be elected to Westminster 5 times FFS, they're a joke party. When you can't even beat a weakened Labour party in a by election you know you're in trouble. Keep playing them down but only time will tell Like it or not the right is on the rise across Europe The same shite everyone was spouting before the GE, how did that work out for you? Oh that's right, you ended up with less MPs than you started with your leader couldn't even win his seat on the fifth attempt BGD you know I normally agree with you but you know as well as I do that's crap. How the voting system works in this country is not a true indication of public feeling. Is SNP really many times more popular than UKIP? No. I'm honestly shocked we're disagreeing with each other! Of course you're right about the electoral system but UKIP and their supporters were saying they'd win a load of seats in the GE knowing full well that the GE is done under FPTP, they still failed to live up to their own predictions. They can't blame the electoral system when before the election they were so sure they'd win a load of seats under that same system. They didn't get any MPs because not enough people got out and voted for them, simple as that. The apathy of voters cannot be underestimated. I think voting should be compulsory. Then we'd see what's what. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Front Nationale aren't extreme,they're nothing like the NF past or present. I think that's why the media insists on calling them the National front rather Front Nationale,to tarnish their name. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,634 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) There seems to be alot of concerns regarding labour's Oldham victory...most there votes seem to be from newly settled immigrants and minority groups who were getting there doors knocked 5 times a day by labour Edited December 7, 2015 by kanny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I've been waiting for this for years however i've heard the left and the right in France are going to join forces to keep Le Pen out of office ...typical wanker politicians no principals ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,844 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 The is only scum bag traitors who could glory in the fact that immigrants who don't speak English help labour win. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 The is only scum bag traitors who could glory in the fact that immigrants who don't speak English help labour win. You can't bribe,coerce or threaten voters.... So Labour just import them. 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,634 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 The is only scum bag traitors who could glory in the fact that immigrants who don't speak English help labour win. You can't bribe,coerce or threaten voters.... So Labour just import them. Thats right labour are putting votes before national security and sovereignty... Shame on them 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) The left will do the usual and try and play it down and say the right will get nowhereWell the right didn't get too far in Oldham last week did they I wouldn't have expects it to have won in Oldham But the third biggest party in the Uk is Ukip and it will get bigger Across europe the right is on the rise LibDems were the third biggest party for decades and much bigger than UKIP could ever hope to be, look where that got them Their leader has failed to be elected to Westminster 5 times FFS, they're a joke party. When you can't even beat a weakened Labour party in a by election you know you're in trouble. Keep playing them down but only time will tell Like it or not the right is on the rise across Europe The same shite everyone was spouting before the GE, how did that work out for you? Oh that's right, you ended up with less MPs than you started with your leader couldn't even win his seat on the fifth attempt BGD you know I normally agree with you but you know as well as I do that's crap. How the voting system works in this country is not a true indication of public feeling. Is SNP really many times more popular than UKIP? No. I'm honestly shocked we're disagreeing with each other! Of course you're right about the electoral system but UKIP and their supporters were saying they'd win a load of seats in the GE knowing full well that the GE is done under FPTP, they still failed to live up to their own predictions. They can't blame the electoral system when before the election they were so sure they'd win a load of seats under that same system. They didn't get any MPs because not enough people got out and voted for them, simple as that. The apathy of voters cannot be underestimated. I think voting should be compulsory. Then we'd see what's what. Oh good we're back to agreeing with each other Voting is compulsory in Australia and it doesn't seem to cause them any problems, if you really can't bring yourself to vote for any of the candidates standing you can just spoil your ballot. I reckon it'd be a good thing for democracy, the more people out voting the better Of course if UKIPs message really resonanted strongly with a majority of the British public they would of turned out in their droves to vote for them, like the Scots did for the SNP They couldn't even get their figurehead elected when they threw all the party's resources at his constituency. Edited December 7, 2015 by BGD 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Front Nationale aren't extreme,they're nothing like the NF past or present. I think that's why the media insists on calling them the National front rather Front Nationale,to tarnish their name. They try there best to label them as far right but the public are seeing through it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Front Nationale aren't extreme,they're nothing like the NF past or present. I think that's why the media insists on calling them the National front rather Front Nationale,to tarnish their name. They try there best to label them as far right but the public are seeing through it That'd be because they ARE a far right party Why are you so afraid of the label? You should be proud of your political ideology. I have no qualms labelling myself far left. Have the courage of your convictions. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Nothing wrong with being far right, but the media have demonised that label for so long people associate it with with mindless skinhead thugs, rather than patriots who are fed up having their country overrun. I prefer "Polar opposite to BGD" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Front Nationale aren't extreme,they're nothing like the NF past or present. I think that's why the media insists on calling them the National front rather Front Nationale,to tarnish their name. They try there best to label them as far right but the public are seeing through it That'd be because they ARE a far right party Why are you so afraid of the label? You should be proud of your political ideology. I have no qualms labelling myself far left. Have the courage of your convictions. I wouldn't class them as far right The reason the media try and say Front National and Ukip are Far right is to try and scare people away from voting Most people would class far right as the NF/BNP and the left and media find it easy to destroy these groups The far left and far right will get nowhere and this in my opinion is why the left and the media are desperate for the public to think they are some kind of far right Nazis 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Front Nationale aren't extreme,they're nothing like the NF past or present. I think that's why the media insists on calling them the National front rather Front Nationale,to tarnish their name. They try there best to label them as far right but the public are seeing through it That'd be because they ARE a far right party Why are you so afraid of the label? You should be proud of your political ideology. I have no qualms labelling myself far left. Have the courage of your convictions. I wouldn't class them as far right The reason the media try and say Front National and Ukip are Far right is to try and scare people away from voting Most people would class far right as the NF/BNP and the left and media find it easy to destroy these groups The far left and far right will get nowhere and this in my opinion is why the left and the media are desperate for the public to think they are some kind of far right Nazis Honestly I don't care what you would class them as, people that actually know what they're talking about class them as far right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Front Nationale aren't extreme,they're nothing like the NF past or present. I think that's why the media insists on calling them the National front rather Front Nationale,to tarnish their name. They try there best to label them as far right but the public are seeing through it That'd be because they ARE a far right party Why are you so afraid of the label? You should be proud of your political ideology. I have no qualms labelling myself far left. Have the courage of your convictions. I wouldn't class them as far right The reason the media try and say Front National and Ukip are Far right is to try and scare people away from voting Most people would class far right as the NF/BNP and the left and media find it easy to destroy these groups The far left and far right will get nowhere and this in my opinion is why the left and the media are desperate for the public to think they are some kind of far right Nazis Honestly I don't care what you would class them as, people that actually know what they're talking about class them as far right At the end of the day it doesn't matter what I would class them as or those people who know what their talking about say They are gaining In power so you're going to have to do something fast as a huge portion of people support these groups......we cannot say the same for the far left Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 If you say so pal I'm really not worried. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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