WILF 47,353 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'm not for one minute questioning your ability as a parent matey, but I fail to see how marrying outside your brand of faith would offer "no pieces" to pick up?.......you don't have to like it, you just have to love them and be there for them. Simple as that in my world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) I am referring to things like the so called honour killings, suicides murders that occur many relate to inter culture relationships and issues Wilf. . A lot of interrace or inter cultural relationships lead to resentment from both sides in what are usually extended families I saw this first hand as a kid from The orange side especially It took nigh on 50 years to sort that one LOL also a lot of kids from mixed backgrounds have feelings of isolation one foot in one camp and one in the other . I was one of the lucky ones I felt right at home with islam and my Fathers family. I am mentoring a young Pakistani girl at the minute she is isolated due to similar things we are discussing her ex partner and his family are gone dont want to know now reconciliation with her family is a task and a half .So dont criticise me for my attitude and stance it is well founded and finally I make my own decisions yes based on my faith and my understanding of life and reality warts and all. No one dictates to me and I reach my own conclusions and decisions. Edited December 11, 2015 by desertbred 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,353 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 I am referring to things like the so called honour killings, suicides murders that occur many relate to inter culture relationships and issues Wilf. . A lot of interrace or inter cultural relationships lead to resentment from both sides in what are usually extended families I saw this first hand as a kid from The orange side especially It took nigh on 50 years to sort that one LOL also a lot of kids from mixed backgrounds have feelings of isolation one foot in one camp and one in the other . I was one of the lucky ones I felt right at home with islam and my Fathers family. I am mentoring a young Pakistani girl at the minute she is isolated due to similar things we are discussing her ex partner and his family are gone dont want to know now reconciliation with her family is a task and a half .So dont criticise me for my attitude and stance it is well founded and finally I make my own decisions yes based on my faith and my understanding of life and reality warts and all. No one dictates to me and I reach my own conclusions and decisions. Fair enough, I respect that totally......I may not agree with some things but I can respect that you have a right to that opinion. The young girl you are mentoring I take it is isolated from her family because they took the stance you say you would take? If I was you, id be saying to her dad "remember when she was born?......well life's too short and when you are dead then you are dead.......don't waste time on bitterness and resentment" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Neems and BGD imo far left or far right are just as bad as each other and neither never end well ....Our democracy is fundamentally central with slight swings to left or right to counter act problems at a given time but big knee jurk swings don't do any good in the long run and only bring oppression .... newtons 3rd law ... For every action there's a equal reaction. I believe This is as true for politics as it is the physical universe . Modern parliamentary democracy doesn't work,it doesn't represent or work in the interest of the majority or even a large miority and never has. There were forms of democracy that worked in the past,but with the media owned and used to manipulate the opinions of the masses even they wouldn't work now. It's not about left and right,it's about looking after yourself and your own people first. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,666 Posted December 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Neems and BGD imo far left or far right are just as bad as each other and neither never end well ....Our democracy is fundamentally central with slight swings to left or right to counter act problems at a given time but big knee jurk swings don't do any good in the long run and only bring oppression .... newtons 3rd law ... For every action there's a equal reaction. I believe This is as true for politics as it is the physical universe . Modern parliamentary democracy doesn't work,it doesn't represent or work in the interest of the majority or even a large miority and never has. There were forms of democracy that worked in the past,but with the media owned and used to manipulate the opinions of the masses even they wouldn't work now. It's not about left and right,it's about looking after yourself and your own people first. I have to agree that the system is corrupt but there needs to be a common aim to fix it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Neems and BGD imo far left or far right are just as bad as each other and neither never end well ....Our democracy is fundamentally central with slight swings to left or right to counter act problems at a given time but big knee jurk swings don't do any good in the long run and only bring oppression .... newtons 3rd law ... For every action there's a equal reaction. I believe This is as true for politics as it is the physical universe . Modern parliamentary democracy doesn't work,it doesn't represent or work in the interest of the majority or even a large miority and never has. There were forms of democracy that worked in the past,but with the media owned and used to manipulate the opinions of the masses even they wouldn't work now. It's not about left and right,it's about looking after yourself and your own people first. I have to agree that the system is corrupt but there needs to be a common aim to fix it And there isn't a common aim,a 'diverse' society by it's very nature doesn't have any one set of aims/morals. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,666 Posted December 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Neems and BGD imo far left or far right are just as bad as each other and neither never end well ....Our democracy is fundamentally central with slight swings to left or right to counter act problems at a given time but big knee jurk swings don't do any good in the long run and only bring oppression .... newtons 3rd law ... For every action there's a equal reaction. I believe This is as true for politics as it is the physical universe . Modern parliamentary democracy doesn't work,it doesn't represent or work in the interest of the majority or even a large miority and never has. There were forms of democracy that worked in the past,but with the media owned and used to manipulate the opinions of the masses even they wouldn't work now. It's not about left and right,it's about looking after yourself and your own people first. I have to agree that the system is corrupt but there needs to be a common aim to fix it And there isn't a common aim,a 'diverse' society by it's very nature doesn't have any one set of aims/morals. And it's those aims and morals that are subjective you both have your place on the spectrum and are important for balance but neither of your utopias are for me so how do you fix that? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,844 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) Unlike your Christian religion where male marries male or female marries female then adopts kids of hetrosexual parents and they dont know if mummy or daddy is Sally or Harry and you call islam backward ffs LOLI'm not keen on gays adopting kids but it's got naff all to do with Christians anyway....personally I'm an odinistic heathen. There are thousands of kids being abused so if two men or women can provide love then so the feck what? Stereotyping Muslims? Feck me pal? Just look at the evidence? Edited December 11, 2015 by DIDO.1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Unlike your Christian religion where male marries male or female marries female then adopts kids of hetrosexual parents and they dont know if mummy or daddy is Sally or Harry and you call islam backward ffs LOLI'm not keen on gays adopting kids but it's got naff all to do with Christians anyway....personally I'm an odinistic heathen. There are thousands of kids being abused so if two men or women can provide love then so the feck what? Stereotyping Muslims? Feck me pal? Just look at the evidence? Unlike your Christian religion where male marries male or female marries female then adopts kids of hetrosexual parents and they dont know if mummy or daddy is Sally or Harry and you call islam backward ffs LOLI'm not keen on gays adopting kids but it's got naff all to do with Christians anyway....personally I'm an odinistic heathen. There are thousands of kids being abused so if two men or women can provide love then so the feck what? Stereotyping Muslims? Feck me pal? Just look at the evidence? you spout absolute shite , its a Christian country with Laws based on a Christian Magna Carta whether you are a heathen has f**k all to do with the laws of this country .So shall we stereotype the Christian and heathen peadophiles also you really are a Clown today a dossier of 100 named peados has been published not seen it yet but my source says bet on them being from your upstanding parts of society there a bit of stereotyping just reading the numbers of various groups in home office sex register very interesting reading. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,844 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 ....and? There was a problem with nonce in the Catholic Church.....we were free to talk about that, the arch bishop even apologised.... There is a problem with how massive numbers of Muslim men see young non Muslim girls....indeed how islam treats women in general....we should be free to talk about that.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Theres 10s 100s of thousands of disgusting white peadophiles in the world, the difference is ordinary white people are disgusted by them In islam your prophet f****d a 9 year old girl, in the middle east moslems still marry children today and its deemed acceptable by moslems, thats the difference, and its a big f***ing difference....we, decent white folk are disgusted with it, islam not only accepts it but the supposedly best man of all time...their prophet... actively encourages it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 I dont have a single problem with what people talk about as long as it factual and to the point. Most Muslim women dont have a problem with islam or how they are treated thats a fact. Some are abused and mistreated a very small minority it is still unacceptable even if its only 1. It seems to be western folk who complain about islam and the way women are treated but fail to look how they treat their own women . The catholic church and the archbishops apology dont you mean the Pope? So a half arsed apology makes it alright does it ? any form of abuse no matter where or how is not acceptable the Asian /muslim peados were allowed to get away with their crimes because of cover ups so culpability is wide ranging is it not, lets see what happens in the future when all facts and evidence is uncovered.This myth that you cant talk about things needs to be quashed ,talk what you want if its the truth then f**k all to worry about is there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) Theres 10s 100s of thousands of disgusting white peadophiles in the world, the difference is ordinary white people are disgusted by them In islam your prophet f****d a 9 year old girl, in the middle east moslems still marry children today and its deemed acceptable by moslems, thats the difference, and its a big f***ing difference....we, decent white folk are disgusted with it, islam not only accepts it but the supposedly best man of all time...their prophet... actively encourages it Heres some of UK history some 700 years after Muhammad, The youngest monarch to marry was David II, who married Joan, daughter of Edward II when he was 4 years, 134 days old in 1328. The youngest female monarch at the time of her marriage was Mary II, who was 15 years, 188 days old when she married William III in 1677. The youngest queen consort was Isabella of Valois, who married Richard II when she was 6 years, 358 days old in 1396. Edited December 11, 2015 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Neems and BGD imo far left or far right are just as bad as each other and neither never end well ....Our democracy is fundamentally central with slight swings to left or right to counter act problems at a given time but big knee jurk swings don't do any good in the long run and only bring oppression .... newtons 3rd law ... For every action there's a equal reaction. I believe This is as true for politics as it is the physical universe . Modern parliamentary democracy doesn't work,it doesn't represent or work in the interest of the majority or even a large miority and never has. There were forms of democracy that worked in the past,but with the media owned and used to manipulate the opinions of the masses even they wouldn't work now. It's not about left and right,it's about looking after yourself and your own people first. I have to agree that the system is corrupt but there needs to be a common aim to fix it And there isn't a common aim,a 'diverse' society by it's very nature doesn't have any one set of aims/morals. And it's those aims and morals that are subjective you both have your place on the spectrum and are important for balance but neither of your utopias are for me so how do you fix that? Morality is subjective,the natural order isn't,the 2 need to be synchronised for a healthy society to exist. The democratic spectrum is as flawed as democracy itself,I don't see any point in viewing things from that perspective,there's life or death,if you're not actively surviving you're at best passively dying. Some people choose the death of everything they are,their race,nation,culture and tribe others want to survive and prosper,that's a spectrum to follow if you need one. Muslims are closer to nature than us,which is why despite their inferiority they're taking Europe and soon America. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) Theres 10s 100s of thousands of disgusting white peadophiles in the world, the difference is ordinary white people are disgusted by them In islam your prophet f****d a 9 year old girl, in the middle east moslems still marry children today and its deemed acceptable by moslems, thats the difference, and its a big f***ing difference....we, decent white folk are disgusted with it, islam not only accepts it but the supposedly best man of all time...their prophet... actively encourages it Heres some of UK history some 700 years after Muhammad, The youngest monarch to marry was David II, who married Joan, daughter of Edward II when he was 4 years, 134 days old in 1328. The youngest female monarch at the time of her marriage was Mary II, who was 15 years, 188 days old when she married William III in 1677. The youngest queen consort was Isabella of Valois, who married Richard II when she was 6 years, 358 days old in 1396. All well and good but the fact is we dont hold these people up as the best people of all time and think they are prophets of god and that their every word and deed should be followed and copied.... unlike moslems who do as mo did Edited December 11, 2015 by Onlyworkmatters 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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