BGD 6,436 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Im sure most Jews are nice people its just a tiny tiny few bad ones Funny how those that are quick to defend the Muslims feel its ok to blame and call the Jews Oh I totally agree pal the majority of Jews just like all people are good, Zionists on the other hand are scumbags to a man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Staffariffraf fEvery one wants their kids to grow up in a peaceful affluent society its only a minute percentage of people that dont. I have said before on here I dont think integration works that is my own opinion it doesnt mean it will not work in the future but I cant see it in my lifetime, Societies need to be tolerant of each other diversity is part and parcel of human nature and for Humanity to survive that diversity has to be there, this concept of a Master race is old hat and bull shit,it has been tried over the millennia and failed . Tolerance ,understanding Education compassion what ever tag you want to put on it we are all individuals but we form the human race, some want it divided on racial grounds colour geographically religious segregation, even financial and military might, that is what has brought the world to the brink of destruction on numerous occasions. A Mans faith or lack of it is his personal concern and to tell them to leave their faith or some one to be forced into a faith is totally and utterly wrong if I want my children to grow up as Muslims this is our right irrespective of which country we choose to live in. There is no law in any part of the world that forbids me to be Muslim or to follow Islam and there is no law in the world that says you cant be Christian or athiest it is a personal thing faith not for the state or some group of want to be dictators to impose them selves on others. Historically you will find that Britania imposed itself and its customs and traditions on over half the known world now the trait is reversed suddenly its not acceptable for Foreigners to come and maintain their own customs and traditions like the Raj in India or the Boers in Africa Europeans forced their customs and traditions on the Red indians and the Aborigenes they tried it in China leading to the boxer revolution They subjugated 3/4 of Africa that was ok but if you want to cometo UK assimilate leave yourfaith swear allegiance and you will be integrated I think you know my answer to that. Britain did run riot and impose it's laws and cultures on many countries creating the empire, why?, because we were more switched on and educated than the countries we ruled.. If those countries had been able to they would have shafted us, it's that simple. Life was simple, you were stronger, cleverer, you exploited the fact. To equate what went on hundreds of years ago to what is happening now doesn't balance. I'm fed up hearing self righteous left wing pricks apologising for what Britain did to the world. The British people were better educated two hundred years ago than very many shitholes still are today, and that includes your middle eastern countries, many of them would still be sitting picking nits from their heads and eating them if not for the western world. Apart from oil and it's only western demand that gives it value and it's certainly western technology that gets it out the ground what exactly have middle eastern countries given to the world?. The contributions the Middle East have made to civilisation are too numerous to mention but how about you start with learning about the Islamic Golden Age https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Staffariffraf fEvery one wants their kids to grow up in a peaceful affluent society its only a minute percentage of people that dont. I have said before on here I dont think integration works that is my own opinion it doesnt mean it will not work in the future but I cant see it in my lifetime, Societies need to be tolerant of each other diversity is part and parcel of human nature and for Humanity to survive that diversity has to be there, this concept of a Master race is old hat and bull shit,it has been tried over the millennia and failed . Tolerance ,understanding Education compassion what ever tag you want to put on it we are all individuals but we form the human race, some want it divided on racial grounds colour geographically religious segregation, even financial and military might, that is what has brought the world to the brink of destruction on numerous occasions. A Mans faith or lack of it is his personal concern and to tell them to leave their faith or some one to be forced into a faith is totally and utterly wrong if I want my children to grow up as Muslims this is our right irrespective of which country we choose to live in. There is no law in any part of the world that forbids me to be Muslim or to follow Islam and there is no law in the world that says you cant be Christian or athiest it is a personal thing faith not for the state or some group of want to be dictators to impose them selves on others. Historically you will find that Britania imposed itself and its customs and traditions on over half the known world now the trait is reversed suddenly its not acceptable for Foreigners to come and maintain their own customs and traditions like the Raj in India or the Boers in Africa Europeans forced their customs and traditions on the Red indians and the Aborigenes they tried it in China leading to the boxer revolution They subjugated 3/4 of Africa that was ok but if you want to cometo UK assimilate leave yourfaith swear allegiance and you will be integrated I think you know my answer to that.I will give a full reply but I respect that you stick up for your faith on here and hope you continue to do so as it's a different viewpoint. However 1 how long do Britons alive today have to pay for generations ago actions . And 2 lol how can you being a Muslim preach about Britain going into Africa and India lol I'm sure a he'll of a lot more people got killed in the name of Islamic expansion out of Arabia than died as a result of British colonialism? And 3 countries in Europe that never set foot in other lands in the name of colonialism are suffering just as bad if not worse due to migration and do a bit of research of the culture and barbarity that explorers found in Africa at beginning of British expansion I give you a few names of books if you want? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Staffariffraf fEvery one wants their kids to grow up in a peaceful affluent society its only a minute percentage of people that dont. I have said before on here I dont think integration works that is my own opinion it doesnt mean it will not work in the future but I cant see it in my lifetime, Societies need to be tolerant of each other diversity is part and parcel of human nature and for Humanity to survive that diversity has to be there, this concept of a Master race is old hat and bull shit,it has been tried over the millennia and failed . Tolerance ,understanding Education compassion what ever tag you want to put on it we are all individuals but we form the human race, some want it divided on racial grounds colour geographically religious segregation, even financial and military might, that is what has brought the world to the brink of destruction on numerous occasions. A Mans faith or lack of it is his personal concern and to tell them to leave their faith or some one to be forced into a faith is totally and utterly wrong if I want my children to grow up as Muslims this is our right irrespective of which country we choose to live in. There is no law in any part of the world that forbids me to be Muslim or to follow Islam and there is no law in the world that says you cant be Christian or athiest it is a personal thing faith not for the state or some group of want to be dictators to impose them selves on others. Historically you will find that Britania imposed itself and its customs and traditions on over half the known world now the trait is reversed suddenly its not acceptable for Foreigners to come and maintain their own customs and traditions like the Raj in India or the Boers in Africa Europeans forced their customs and traditions on the Red indians and the Aborigenes they tried it in China leading to the boxer revolution They subjugated 3/4 of Africa that was ok but if you want to cometo UK assimilate leave yourfaith swear allegiance and you will be integrated I think you know my answer to that. Britain did run riot and impose it's laws and cultures on many countries creating the empire, why?, because we were more switched on and educated than the countries we ruled.. If those countries had been able to they would have shafted us, it's that simple. Life was simple, you were stronger, cleverer, you exploited the fact. To equate what went on hundreds of years ago to what is happening now doesn't balance. I'm fed up hearing self righteous left wing pricks apologising for what Britain did to the world. The British people were better educated two hundred years ago than very many shitholes still are today, and that includes your middle eastern countries, many of them would still be sitting picking nits from their heads and eating them if not for the western world. Apart from oil and it's only western demand that gives it value and it's certainly western technology that gets it out the ground what exactly have middle eastern countries given to the world?. The contributions the Middle East have made to civilisation are too numerous to mention but how about you start with learning about the Islamic Golden Age https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age how much of that was Islam the cause of or was it just what was taken over as a result of Islamic conquest? Genuine question I read it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Staffariffraf fEvery one wants their kids to grow up in a peaceful affluent society its only a minute percentage of people that dont. I have said before on here I dont think integration works that is my own opinion it doesnt mean it will not work in the future but I cant see it in my lifetime, Societies need to be tolerant of each other diversity is part and parcel of human nature and for Humanity to survive that diversity has to be there, this concept of a Master race is old hat and bull shit,it has been tried over the millennia and failed . Tolerance ,understanding Education compassion what ever tag you want to put on it we are all individuals but we form the human race, some want it divided on racial grounds colour geographically religious segregation, even financial and military might, that is what has brought the world to the brink of destruction on numerous occasions. A Mans faith or lack of it is his personal concern and to tell them to leave their faith or some one to be forced into a faith is totally and utterly wrong if I want my children to grow up as Muslims this is our right irrespective of which country we choose to live in. There is no law in any part of the world that forbids me to be Muslim or to follow Islam and there is no law in the world that says you cant be Christian or athiest it is a personal thing faith not for the state or some group of want to be dictators to impose them selves on others. Historically you will find that Britania imposed itself and its customs and traditions on over half the known world now the trait is reversed suddenly its not acceptable for Foreigners to come and maintain their own customs and traditions like the Raj in India or the Boers in Africa Europeans forced their customs and traditions on the Red indians and the Aborigenes they tried it in China leading to the boxer revolution They subjugated 3/4 of Africa that was ok but if you want to cometo UK assimilate leave yourfaith swear allegiance and you will be integrated I think you know my answer to that. Britain did run riot and impose it's laws and cultures on many countries creating the empire, why?, because we were more switched on and educated than the countries we ruled.. If those countries had been able to they would have shafted us, it's that simple. Life was simple, you were stronger, cleverer, you exploited the fact. To equate what went on hundreds of years ago to what is happening now doesn't balance. I'm fed up hearing self righteous left wing pricks apologising for what Britain did to the world. The British people were better educated two hundred years ago than very many shitholes still are today, and that includes your middle eastern countries, many of them would still be sitting picking nits from their heads and eating them if not for the western world. Apart from oil and it's only western demand that gives it value and it's certainly western technology that gets it out the ground what exactly have middle eastern countries given to the world?. The contributions the Middle East have made to civilisation are too numerous to mention but how about you start with learning about the Islamic Golden Age https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age how much of that was Islam the cause of or was it just what was taken over as a result of Islamic conquest? Genuine question I read it Probably a bit of both just like the West? The main driving force behind the Golden Age were the caliphs and the value they put on science and the quest for knowledge and the relative peace the caliphates created in the area allowing people to focus on knowledge rather than war, no Islamic caliphs and no Islamic Golden Age Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 BGD what is it you like and admire so much about Islam being a liberal? That's what I don't get with that viewpoint how you people stick up for Islam in Europe but the views you are supposed to hold the closest are the total opposite of Islam ie gay people etc? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 BGD what is it you like and admire so much about Islam being a liberal? That's what I don't get with that viewpoint how you people stick up for Islam in Europe but the views you are supposed to hold the closest are the total opposite of Islam ie gay people etc? I don't admire Islamic culture any more than any other culture, all cultures have their good points and bad points we could all learn from And I'm not a fecking liberal Honestly would rather be called a Nazi than a liberal. Leftist if you need a label for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 BGD what is it you like and admire so much about Islam being a liberal? That's what I don't get with that viewpoint how you people stick up for Islam in Europe but the views you are supposed to hold the closest are the total opposite of Islam ie gay people etc? I don't admire Islamic culture any more than any other culture, all cultures have their good points and bad points we could all learn from And I'm not a fecking liberal Honestly would rather be called a Nazi than a liberal. Leftist if you need a label for me so why do jump to the defence soon as anyone questions it? to you what country or culture best represents what most muslims or people that say such and such is NOT islam what country/culture does? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Staffariffraf fEvery one wants their kids to grow up in a peaceful affluent society its only a minute percentage of people that dont. I have said before on here I dont think integration works that is my own opinion it doesnt mean it will not work in the future but I cant see it in my lifetime, Societies need to be tolerant of each other diversity is part and parcel of human nature and for Humanity to survive that diversity has to be there, this concept of a Master race is old hat and bull shit,it has been tried over the millennia and failed . Tolerance ,understanding Education compassion what ever tag you want to put on it we are all individuals but we form the human race, some want it divided on racial grounds colour geographically religious segregation, even financial and military might, that is what has brought the world to the brink of destruction on numerous occasions. A Mans faith or lack of it is his personal concern and to tell them to leave their faith or some one to be forced into a faith is totally and utterly wrong if I want my children to grow up as Muslims this is our right irrespective of which country we choose to live in. There is no law in any part of the world that forbids me to be Muslim or to follow Islam and there is no law in the world that says you cant be Christian or athiest it is a personal thing faith not for the state or some group of want to be dictators to impose them selves on others. Historically you will find that Britania imposed itself and its customs and traditions on over half the known world now the trait is reversed suddenly its not acceptable for Foreigners to come and maintain their own customs and traditions like the Raj in India or the Boers in Africa Europeans forced their customs and traditions on the Red indians and the Aborigenes they tried it in China leading to the boxer revolution They subjugated 3/4 of Africa that was ok but if you want to cometo UK assimilate leave yourfaith swear allegiance and you will be integrated I think you know my answer to that. Britain did run riot and impose it's laws and cultures on many countries creating the empire, why?, because we were more switched on and educated than the countries we ruled.. If those countries had been able to they would have shafted us, it's that simple. Life was simple, you were stronger, cleverer, you exploited the fact. To equate what went on hundreds of years ago to what is happening now doesn't balance. I'm fed up hearing self righteous left wing pricks apologising for what Britain did to the world. The British people were better educated two hundred years ago than very many shitholes still are today, and that includes your middle eastern countries, many of them would still be sitting picking nits from their heads and eating them if not for the western world. Apart from oil and it's only western demand that gives it value and it's certainly western technology that gets it out the ground what exactly have middle eastern countries given to the world?. bang on mate and look at the shithole Africa is today despite western education for the leaders billions upon billions in aid every decade for past 50 60 years even Obama's brother in Kenya said it was better when the British where here lol 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 https://archive.org/stream/negroesinnegrola00helpiala#page/n13/mode/2up have a read of this for one how Africa was before Europeans Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Muslims aren't a race..........and judeism is a master race type thing............you'll be voting BNP next Hey now they're both just facts We probably agree on more than you'd think when it comes to Jews and Zionism to be fair pal, after experiencing what it's like in Palestine first hand I don't have much love for God's chosen people... Good and bad in every race or religion, plenty of jews protest about israel's actions, not that i'm saying you mean all jews. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,633 Posted December 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Staffariffraf fEvery one wants their kids to grow up in a peaceful affluent society its only a minute percentage of people that dont. I have said before on here I dont think integration works that is my own opinion it doesnt mean it will not work in the future but I cant see it in my lifetime, Societies need to be tolerant of each other diversity is part and parcel of human nature and for Humanity to survive that diversity has to be there, this concept of a Master race is old hat and bull shit,it has been tried over the millennia and failed . Tolerance ,understanding Education compassion what ever tag you want to put on it we are all individuals but we form the human race, some want it divided on racial grounds colour geographically religious segregation, even financial and military might, that is what has brought the world to the brink of destruction on numerous occasions. A Mans faith or lack of it is his personal concern and to tell them to leave their faith or some one to be forced into a faith is totally and utterly wrong if I want my children to grow up as Muslims this is our right irrespective of which country we choose to live in. There is no law in any part of the world that forbids me to be Muslim or to follow Islam and there is no law in the world that says you cant be Christian or athiest it is a personal thing faith not for the state or some group of want to be dictators to impose them selves on others. Historically you will find that Britania imposed itself and its customs and traditions on over half the known world now the trait is reversed suddenly its not acceptable for Foreigners to come and maintain their own customs and traditions like the Raj in India or the Boers in Africa Europeans forced their customs and traditions on the Red indians and the Aborigenes they tried it in China leading to the boxer revolution They subjugated 3/4 of Africa that was ok but if you want to cometo UK assimilate leave yourfaith swear allegiance and you will be integrated I think you know my answer to that. Britain did run riot and impose it's laws and cultures on many countries creating the empire, why?, because we were more switched on and educated than the countries we ruled.. If those countries had been able to they would have shafted us, it's that simple. Life was simple, you were stronger, cleverer, you exploited the fact. To equate what went on hundreds of years ago to what is happening now doesn't balance. I'm fed up hearing self righteous left wing pricks apologising for what Britain did to the world. The British people were better educated two hundred years ago than very many shitholes still are today, and that includes your middle eastern countries, many of them would still be sitting picking nits from their heads and eating them if not for the western world. Apart from oil and it's only western demand that gives it value and it's certainly western technology that gets it out the ground what exactly have middle eastern countries given to the world?. The contributions the Middle East have made to civilisation are too numerous to mention but how about you start with learning about the Islamic Golden Age https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age wasn't it translated ancient Greek and roman scriptures that fuled the golden age... so essentially European. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 wasn't it translated ancient Greek and roman scriptures that fuled the golden age... so essentially European. And why where those texts repressed/destroyed in the first place,and those who'd written them long since murdered? Because another Abrahamic religion insisted they were the devil. We should thank Islam,it drove us out of the dark ages of xtianity and brought about the renaissance when those texts were recovered after the crusades. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 whats peoples opinion on the end of the so called dark ages? it seems when the turks were becoming less of a threat we seemed to flourish again? and the start of dark ages seems about the time of Islamic conquests? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Finn 3,014 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Staffariffraf fEvery one wants their kids to grow up in a peaceful affluent society its only a minute percentage of people that dont. I have said before on here I dont think integration works that is my own opinion it doesnt mean it will not work in the future but I cant see it in my lifetime, Societies need to be tolerant of each other diversity is part and parcel of human nature and for Humanity to survive that diversity has to be there, this concept of a Master race is old hat and bull shit,it has been tried over the millennia and failed . Tolerance ,understanding Education compassion what ever tag you want to put on it we are all individuals but we form the human race, some want it divided on racial grounds colour geographically religious segregation, even financial and military might, that is what has brought the world to the brink of destruction on numerous occasions. A Mans faith or lack of it is his personal concern and to tell them to leave their faith or some one to be forced into a faith is totally and utterly wrong if I want my children to grow up as Muslims this is our right irrespective of which country we choose to live in. There is no law in any part of the world that forbids me to be Muslim or to follow Islam and there is no law in the world that says you cant be Christian or athiest it is a personal thing faith not for the state or some group of want to be dictators to impose them selves on others. Historically you will find that Britania imposed itself and its customs and traditions on over half the known world now the trait is reversed suddenly its not acceptable for Foreigners to come and maintain their own customs and traditions like the Raj in India or the Boers in Africa Europeans forced their customs and traditions on the Red indians and the Aborigenes they tried it in China leading to the boxer revolution They subjugated 3/4 of Africa that was ok but if you want to cometo UK assimilate leave yourfaith swear allegiance and you will be integrated I think you know my answer to that. Britain did run riot and impose it's laws and cultures on many countries creating the empire, why?, because we were more switched on and educated than the countries we ruled.. If those countries had been able to they would have shafted us, it's that simple. Life was simple, you were stronger, cleverer, you exploited the fact. To equate what went on hundreds of years ago to what is happening now doesn't balance. I'm fed up hearing self righteous left wing pricks apologising for what Britain did to the world. The British people were better educated two hundred years ago than very many shitholes still are today, and that includes your middle eastern countries, many of them would still be sitting picking nits from their heads and eating them if not for the western world. Apart from oil and it's only western demand that gives it value and it's certainly western technology that gets it out the ground what exactly have middle eastern countries given to the world?. The contributions the Middle East have made to civilisation are too numerous to mention but how about you start with learning about the Islamic Golden Age https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age There are different kinds of Muslims just like there are different kinds of Catholics and Baptist. (Baptists are a religious sect over here famous for not drinking and other crazy stuff). I just want the bad Muslims killed. The rest can go in peace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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