neil cooney 10,416 Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Nick has nothing to hide he is one of the only packs that hunts legally ! If you have never followed him go it will open your eyes to hound work and also how poor most packs have become . It's such a treat to see a pack hunt in full cry with all hounds participating far cry from most mute foxhounds I've seen of late . Fair play to you Londog, it's obvious you've been out with every other pack to make such a statement . Or is there just a slight chance that you haven't a clue what you're talking about to slander every other pack other than the only one you've been out with ? Or is there just a slight chance that you're an anti ? I think Mr Valentine should be careful as to who he allows to see his pack. 1 Quote Link to post
Guest Navek Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) Nick has nothing to hide he is one of the only packs that hunts legally ! If you have never followed him go it will open your eyes to hound work and also how poor most packs have become . It's such a treat to see a pack hunt in full cry with all hounds participating far cry from most mute foxhounds I've seen of late .coming from a fellow hunter that's probably not the smartest thing to say mateNothing wrong with what he said, Nick is a rabbit pack and I was out week before last and we had 30 rabbits, then hounds make a lot of noise for such small dogs and it really is an excellent experience so a fellow hunter stating that all other packs hunt illegally isn't. Wrong ???Fair enough, I got wrong end of stick mate no worries Edited December 4, 2015 by Navek Quote Link to post
Nicholas Valentine 33 Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 " Foxbolter " You are correct , no one is going to get a long hunt on a rabbit . It's a shame you never came to see my hounds before the ban , as in those days we hunted hare , deer and fox , and a two hour hunt covering ten miles was a regularity . You would have seen a pack running all together and with a great cry that Bassetts are renowned for . I'm now over sixty years old , and if you are a similar age you will know that advancing age does begin to put restrictions on a huntsmans physical abbilities . I have never viewed rabbit hunting as serious hunting , but as with everything , it is quite possible to make either a good or bad job of it . It makes me very happy that the many people who have attended our invitation meets have enjoyed themselves , and the cap money collected has in most cases made a generous contribution to charity . 6 Quote Link to post
krawnden 1,036 Posted December 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 " Foxbolter " You are correct , no one is going to get a long hunt on a rabbit . It's a shame you never came to see my hounds before the ban , as in those days we hunted hare , deer and fox , and a two hour hunt covering ten miles was a regularity . You would have seen a pack running all together and with a great cry that Bassetts are renowned for . I'm now over sixty years old , and if you are a similar age you will know that advancing age does begin to put restrictions on a huntsmans physical abbilities . I have never viewed rabbit hunting as serious hunting , but as with everything , it is quite possible to make either a good or bad job of it . It makes me very happy that the many people who have attended our invitation meets have enjoyed themselves , and the cap money collected has in most cases made a generous contribution to charity . I can vouch for those long hunts as the last time I was out with you was probably 7 or 8 years before the ban 1 Quote Link to post
foxbolter 447 Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Fare enough nick but I wasn't commenting on a post of 8 years ago and I wasn't having a dig at you either no need to really. I was just saying as it obviously is on rabbit hunting no need to speak of urgency hounds old boy your hounds should speak for you Quote Link to post
chrisbullx 2,541 Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Do you let anyone follow your pack nick?? atb cbx Quote Link to post
longdog85 29 Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 No not an anti just a realist modern ( most) foxhounds are a joke beagles are better but not by far and if you have hunted for a while you too would have seen the downward performance of most packs . If you were to ask any other genuine hunting men they would concur that there are a few packs bred for purpose and up to the job but not many . My previous post were not anti foxhound just pro basset ! Quote Link to post
Guest Navek Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Long dog the issue was more to the fact that your saying that all the other packs hunt illegally not what type of dogs the hunt with.... Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Yes, Cop on to yourself Longdog, coming on to the WWW saying that all other packs break the law. Fool. Also, I could be wrong, but I don't think so, making assumptions about other peoples packs is usually a sign of a fool . Anybody who follows hounds regularly knows that to assess a pack you must see it more than a few times to make an assumption whether it's a good well managed pack or not. Have you been out with all those other packs several times ? If you have, I take my hat off to you. I doubt it though. Quote Link to post
BlackBuck 655 Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Very well spoken Neil , to judge a pack on seeing them once and making a comment is just a twat that hasn't a clue , but then the worlds full of twats Quote Link to post
longdog85 29 Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 (edited) Twat fool such talk is generally reflective . Maybe my point was off the mark but I will try and explain . The rye ford chase are a quality pack I have hunted with them many times mostly pre ban on rabbit but also on roe and fox they were a real eye opener . Never bad scent (as you so often her now from fox hounds) and all hunts concluded one way or other not saying they killed all they hunted just that there was never a question mark as to what happened as is often the case with many foxhound packs pre ban . As to my comments regarding legality the rye ford chase solely hunt rabbits with a full pack which is exempt hunting , if a full pack of fox hounds were out hunting pro ban they must be hunting a drag as the use of a full pack would be illegal to hunt fox that was the point I was making that the rye ford chase are very lucky to carry on as before a privalage that other packs have not got. If I gave the immpression that I thought other packs are breaking the law I'm sorry all I was trying to say that hunting using exemptions is hard and challenging for man and hound allike , I also no that staff and masters do a grand job hunting within the current law trying to show sport and keep the packs going until repeal . As to my credentials I've hunted all my adult like with many packs here and abroad I've also been very lucky to watch many types of hound work there chosen quarry that's how I have formulated my opinions . Also original post edited and ps if your so worried about my il placed comments probably best not to have copied them. Edited December 6, 2015 by longdog85 Quote Link to post
foxbolter 447 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 It must have been very boring back then every day a good one and hunt with no bad scent. did they ever hunt the rugged hills of Wales like around snowdonia with strep awkward walls to take on or around the many areas of the double fences we have today and did they they ever hunt around great langdale Cumbria and did they have the climate change of today to deal with and the rifle men of today also I could go on and on with many excuses off huntsmen which I agree some packs are bad but I won't bore you anymore . Take my hat off to nick and his hound and nothing against him buy sometimes people make it sound so simple I would think that those little hounds were great in tight covers with foxes running from cover to cover but on big rangy field and hills why have they always kept foxhounds to follow on horse and so on all the best fb 1 Quote Link to post
Leggy65 36 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Still about then Nick? Ain't heard off you in a while! I'd like to say to all on here Nick,s hounds are a one off no other pack like it in uk, and run by one man! I take my hat off to you Nick for what you have done for very long time! I've spent a lot of time with Nick and can't fault him! All the best To you nick Valentine! 2 Quote Link to post
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