Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 What I keep wondering about is that all we here is that everyone is "packing" in that country, well I haven`t seen anyone able to fight back in these attacks, whether schools, theaters or whatever.. where are all the "pistal packing rednecks" , it just doesen`t make any sense to me.Charles whitman in the 1960's,the texas tower sniper,one of the first spree-killers of the type,local citizens brought out their weapons and pinned him down till cops finished him off. Really have to go back in time to find this ?? No of course you don't. The media shows you what sells and what suits a given agenda. Do you really believe that when a citizen stops a mass shooting event it would make international news? 14 unarmed innocent civilians killed is outrageous...... a couple of wounded innocents and one dead lunatic isn't! I watched a cctv video on youtube the other day of a recent event where one such nutcase in a hospital was stopped by armed citizens. Not to mention countless other 'minor' violent situations. Where are all the 'rednecks' when these mass shooting take place?................. Lets just analyse this......... Where do these mass shootings take place? Schools, university campuses, cinemas, right? Places where guns are banned! California is THE most anti gun state in the US! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,255 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I was working with a Canadian lad last week who is married to and Amercan lass ...he is going for his green card in the states and was saying once he gets that he will "be packin" I said whats that ....he told me his wife carries a concealed hand gun at all times .....he was saying that as long as you have a driving licience and pay the money you can get a gun ....I said why do you want to carry a gun ...."cause everyone else is packin thats how "....no wander theres so much gun crime in the states ...can you imagine if every ned in the UK was packin Can't belive he would want to live there... knowing to feel safe he would need to carry a gun...madness 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 What I keep wondering about is that all we here is that everyone is "packing" in that country, well I haven`t seen anyone able to fight back in these attacks, whether schools, theaters or whatever.. where are all the "pistal packing rednecks" , it just doesen`t make any sense to me. Charles whitman in the 1960's,the texas tower sniper,one of the first spree-killers of the type,local citizens brought out their weapons and pinned him down till cops finished him off. Really have to go back in time to find this ?? No of course you don't. The media shows you what sells and what suits a given agenda. Do you really believe that when a citizen stops a mass shooting event it would make international news? 14 unarmed innocent civilians killed is outrageous...... a couple of wounded innocents and one dead lunatic isn't! I watched a cctv video on youtube the other day of a recent event where one such nutcase in a hospital was stopped by armed citizens. Not to mention countless other 'minor' violent situations. Where are all the 'rednecks' when these mass shooting take place?................. Lets just analyse this......... Where do these mass shootings take place? Schools, university campuses, cinemas, right? Places where guns are banned! California is THE most anti gun state in the US! What about Colorado? Are they very anti gun? Ok so these shootings are averted all the time in the states, we just don't hear about this little reassuring fact, because the media are too busy trying to manipulate us into thinking there's a problem with US gun culture? I know irony is not a big thing over there........but that's not lost on me haha... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 What I keep wondering about is that all we here is that everyone is "packing" in that country, well I haven`t seen anyone able to fight back in these attacks, whether schools, theaters or whatever.. where are all the "pistal packing rednecks" , it just doesen`t make any sense to me.Charles whitman in the 1960's,the texas tower sniper,one of the first spree-killers of the type,local citizens brought out their weapons and pinned him down till cops finished him off.Really have to go back in time to find this ?? No of course you don't. The media shows you what sells and what suits a given agenda. Do you really believe that when a citizen stops a mass shooting event it would make international news? 14 unarmed innocent civilians killed is outrageous...... a couple of wounded innocents and one dead lunatic isn't! I watched a cctv video on youtube the other day of a recent event where one such nutcase in a hospital was stopped by armed citizens. Not to mention countless other 'minor' violent situations. Where are all the 'rednecks' when these mass shooting take place?................. Lets just analyse this......... Where do these mass shootings take place? Schools, university campuses, cinemas, right? Places where guns are banned! California is THE most anti gun state in the US! What about Colorado? Are they very anti gun? Ok so these shootings are averted all the time in the states, we just don't hear about this little reassuring fact, because the media are too busy trying to manipulate us into thinking there's a problem with US gun culture? I know irony is not a big thing over there........but that's not lost on me haha... I didn't say all the time, but it does happen and yet you NEVER hear of it so does that not suggest an opinion based on media representation is totally biased? Massacres sell! One more dead lunatic and an averted massacre doesn't! Is Colorado anti gun, no you know that........... but more importantly was the cinema complex anti gun? YES! Which reinforces my point, where are all the 'rednecks' when these mass shootings take place?...... I'll tell ya, places where they are allowed to carry! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 What I keep wondering about is that all we here is that everyone is "packing" in that country, well I haven`t seen anyone able to fight back in these attacks, whether schools, theaters or whatever.. where are all the "pistal packing rednecks" , it just doesen`t make any sense to me. Charles whitman in the 1960's,the texas tower sniper,one of the first spree-killers of the type,local citizens brought out their weapons and pinned him down till cops finished him off.Really have to go back in time to find this ?? No of course you don't. The media shows you what sells and what suits a given agenda. Do you really believe that when a citizen stops a mass shooting event it would make international news? 14 unarmed innocent civilians killed is outrageous...... a couple of wounded innocents and one dead lunatic isn't! I watched a cctv video on youtube the other day of a recent event where one such nutcase in a hospital was stopped by armed citizens. Not to mention countless other 'minor' violent situations. Where are all the 'rednecks' when these mass shooting take place?................. Lets just analyse this......... Where do these mass shootings take place? Schools, university campuses, cinemas, right? Places where guns are banned! California is THE most anti gun state in the US! What about Colorado? Are they very anti gun? Ok so these shootings are averted all the time in the states, we just don't hear about this little reassuring fact, because the media are too busy trying to manipulate us into thinking there's a problem with US gun culture? I know irony is not a big thing over there........but that's not lost on me haha... I didn't say all the time, but it does happen and yet you NEVER hear of it so does that not suggest an opinion based on media representation is totally biased? Massacres sell! One more dead lunatic and an averted massacre doesn't! Is Colorado anti gun, no you know that........... but more importantly was the cinema complex anti gun? YES! Which reinforces my point, where are all the 'rednecks' when these mass shootings take place?...... I'll tell ya, places where they are allowed to carry! I totally agree on how the media report things...& of course massacres sell, why wouldn't they? But there seems to be this argument of "if only we knew about all the incidents involving guns that didn't go on to be massacres.........." I can't argue with the stats, but It's not something I find reassuring......it seems to miss the point for me.... There just seems to be something fundamentally wrong with a culture.......when arming school teachers seems like a very good idea.... That said.....I was in a shopping mall in brussels yesterday & now they have security checking everyone's bag going in, no one excluded......but security was unarmed? I did think what's the f***ing point? Isis are hardly likely to wait in line to get their bag of Kalashnikovs checked, are they? Haha... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,540 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 whats the world coming too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Newlife2 55 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) There just seems to be something fundamentally wrong with a culture.......when arming school teachers seems like a very good idea.... When ants are overunning your house you take action.. I can gauarantee you that every "important" person on this earth has a gun protecting them, öur kids are not that important , I guess. Edited December 3, 2015 by Newlife2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 There just seems to be something fundamentally wrong with a culture.......when arming school teachers seems like a very good idea.... When ants are overunning your house you take action.. I can gauarantee you that every "important" person on this earth has a gun protecting them, öur kids are not that important , I guess. I think you're missing my point mate..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 The whole 'lets arm teachers' line is fundamentally flawed. What happens when a teacher cracks? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 The whole 'lets arm teachers' line is fundamentally flawed. What happens when a teacher cracks? Well in theory there should be another teacher with a gun or even a pupil! Haha.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 The whole 'lets arm teachers' line is fundamentally flawed. What happens when a teacher cracks? Well in theory there should be another teacher with a gun or even a pupil! Haha.... Oh thats ok then (wheres the face / palm emoticon when you need it!) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I was told I am paranoid for carrying a pistol and I said 'what the helldo I have to be paranoid about when I have my pistol!' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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