Breaking To Deer?

[Ideation 8,216]

If you can do it don't breed from it if a deer is flushed and runs and a lurcher don't chase it there's a big problem it's a fundamental ask of any lurcher to chase game

Stoke is different to break to because it will hold it's never and won't bolt wildly around a dog which of course will be on a lead wile stock breaking anyway

This is the craziest post iv ever seen on here !

 

 

I would have agreed with you at one point. . . . . . maybe. But no, what you say is absolute bollocks.

[courseadog 231]

 

If you can do it don't breed from it if a deer is flushed and runs and a lurcher don't chase it there's a big problem it's a fundamental ask of any lurcher to chase game

Stoke is different to break to because it will hold it's never and won't bolt wildly around a dog which of course will be on a lead wile stock breaking anyway

This is the craziest post iv ever seen on here !

 

 

I would have agreed with you at one point. . . . . . maybe. But no, what you say is absolute bollocks.

Haha another thl know it all

[courseadog 231]

So come on then explain

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Its a real difficult quandry,.no fecking doubt about that...

Edited November 30, 2015 by Phil Lloyd

[courseadog 231]

Shoot me

Edited November 30, 2015 by courseadog

[courseadog 231]

?

Edited November 30, 2015 by courseadog

[Wales1234 5,513]

Iv generally seen a dog that's broken to deer will not look at them even when running passed turned his head and look !! But out it this way I would have a pup out of it ! Dogs broken to everything besides a certain quarry though training not jibbing ! Once again because YOU. Haven't seen it , it can't be done attitude

[Ideation 8,216]

So come on then explain

 

Right so first things first . . . . I'm the know it all? Whereas you saying that a dog that can be broken to bolting deer lacks drive and shouldn't be bred from is . . . . . ??? What exactly.

 

When I wrote what I did, I KNEW it'd start an argument. . . . why? Because this site is full of folk who 'know it all' without having an actual point of reference, or personal experience of whatever is being discussed.

 

So lets try to debate it without name calling.

 

Anyway, I have seen a very driven dog turn its head and watch a group of fallow belting across a banking in front of it that it KNEW it could chase and catch, and yet it didn't.

 

And ten mins later I have seen that dog find and take on an incredibly formidable quarry head on, something which takes a lot more drive and guts than chasing the deer.

 

I would happily have a pup off said dog, if I was looking for a deer dog.

 

So go figure Dogs are crazy and wonderful things.

[courseadog 231]

 

So come on then explain

 

Right so first things first . . . . I'm the know it all? Whereas you saying that a dog that can be broken to bolting deer lacks drive and shouldn't be bred from is . . . . . ??? What exactly.

 

When I wrote what I did, I KNEW it'd start an argument. . . . why? Because this site is full of folk who 'know it all' without having an actual point of reference, or personal experience of whatever is being discussed.

 

So lets try to debate it without name calling.

 

Anyway, I have seen a very driven dog turn its head and watch a group of fallow belting across a banking in front of it that it KNEW it could chase and catch, and yet it didn't.

 

And ten mins later I have seen that dog find and take on an incredibly formidable quarry head on, something which takes a lot more drive and guts than chasing the deer.

 

I would happily have a pup off said dog, if I was looking for a deer dog.

 

So go figure Dogs are crazy and wonderful things.

Well done ideation good post trust me on this I wouldn't have a pup of a dog that don't chase a deer big difference in a dog being on the slip to off (phil lyodd your photo )and if a dog stood and watched a deer run by off the slip it would be gone by the morning and should not be breed from

[Wales1234 5,513]

 

 

So come on then explain

 

Right so first things first . . . . I'm the know it all? Whereas you saying that a dog that can be broken to bolting deer lacks drive and shouldn't be bred from is . . . . . ??? What exactly.

 

When I wrote what I did, I KNEW it'd start an argument. . . . why? Because this site is full of folk who 'know it all' without having an actual point of reference, or personal experience of whatever is being discussed.

 

So lets try to debate it without name calling.

 

Anyway, I have seen a very driven dog turn its head and watch a group of fallow belting across a banking in front of it that it KNEW it could chase and catch, and yet it didn't.

 

And ten mins later I have seen that dog find and take on an incredibly formidable quarry head on, something which takes a lot more drive and guts than chasing the deer.

 

I would happily have a pup off said dog, if I was looking for a deer dog.

 

So go figure Dogs are crazy and wonderful things.

Well done ideation good post trust me on this I wouldn't have a pup of a dog that don't chase a deer big difference in a dog being on the slip to off (phil lyodd your photo )and if a dog stood and watched a deer run by off the slip it would be gone by the morning and should not be breed from

Well you don't know a lot about dogs mate lol the dog he's talking about is trained not to chase them massive difference in a dog not chasing deer and a dog trained not to chase deer

[courseadog 231]

 

 

 

So come on then explain

Right so first things first . . . . I'm the know it all? Whereas you saying that a dog that can be broken to bolting deer lacks drive and shouldn't be bred from is . . . . . ??? What exactly.

 

When I wrote what I did, I KNEW it'd start an argument. . . . why? Because this site is full of folk who 'know it all' without having an actual point of reference, or personal experience of whatever is being discussed.

 

So lets try to debate it without name calling.

 

Anyway, I have seen a very driven dog turn its head and watch a group of fallow belting across a banking in front of it that it KNEW it could chase and catch, and yet it didn't.

 

And ten mins later I have seen that dog find and take on an incredibly formidable quarry head on, something which takes a lot more drive and guts than chasing the deer.

 

I would happily have a pup off said dog, if I was looking for a deer dog.

 

So go figure Dogs are crazy and wonderful things.

Well done ideation good post trust me on this I wouldn't have a pup of a dog that don't chase a deer big difference in a dog being on the slip to off (phil lyodd your photo )and if a dog stood and watched a deer run by off the slip it would be gone by the morning and should not be breed from

Well you don't know a lot about dogs mate lol the dog he's talking about is trained not to chase them massive difference in a dog not chasing deer and a dog trained not to chase deer

ok you spot on pal

[courseadog 231]

I know fook all

[courseadog 231]

Its a real difficult quandry,.no fecking doubt about that...

 

a stalking collie cross phil

[Ideation 8,216]

 

 

So come on then explain

Right so first things first . . . . I'm the know it all? Whereas you saying that a dog that can be broken to bolting deer lacks drive and shouldn't be bred from is . . . . . ??? What exactly.

 

When I wrote what I did, I KNEW it'd start an argument. . . . why? Because this site is full of folk who 'know it all' without having an actual point of reference, or personal experience of whatever is being discussed.

 

So lets try to debate it without name calling.

 

Anyway, I have seen a very driven dog turn its head and watch a group of fallow belting across a banking in front of it that it KNEW it could chase and catch, and yet it didn't.

 

And ten mins later I have seen that dog find and take on an incredibly formidable quarry head on, something which takes a lot more drive and guts than chasing the deer.

 

I would happily have a pup off said dog, if I was looking for a deer dog.

 

So go figure Dogs are crazy and wonderful things.

Well done ideation good post trust me on this I wouldn't have a pup of a dog that don't chase a deer big difference in a dog being on the slip to off (phil lyodd your photo )and if a dog stood and watched a deer run by off the slip it would be gone by the morning and should not be breed from

 

 

I didn't say you didn't know owt about dogs, just that I have seen something which leads me to a different opinion. And in this case, I think there is quite a lot of truth in my statement.

 

You are inclined to your opinion but I'll say it again, I've seen a dog that has been TRAINED to ignore deer running past. . . . but could and would take one easily if allowed. It has broken the rules in the past and been corrected for it. It will not chase them, and yet no one could question the dogs drive, bottle or abilities. Its a HELL of a dog.

 

If I wanted a deer dog I would have a pup out of it.

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

 

a stalking collie cross phil

 

 

Aye

Edited November 30, 2015 by Phil Lloyd