lee 99 Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Many a good night was had watching Nigel fight up and down the country late 80s onwards... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 McClellan fight was a balltearer, a shame for McClellan his first loss ended his career and his health. Certainly was a savage era for British boxing with the Michael Watson tragedy as well. No one could touch Calzaghe at that time though. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,967 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 McClellan fight was a balltearer, a shame for McClellan his first loss ended his career and his health. Certainly was a savage era for British boxing with the Michael Watson tragedy as well. No one could touch Calzaghe at that time though.exactly, calzaghe was a tough mofo, he is top of my list, I think he doesn't get the recognition he deserves 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 McClellan fight was a balltearer, a shame for McClellan his first loss ended his career and his health. Certainly was a savage era for British boxing with the Michael Watson tragedy as well. No one could touch Calzaghe at that time though.exactly, calzaghe was a tough mofo, he is top of my list, I think he doesn't get the recognition he deserves sure dont they all dream of having a record like joes McClellan fight was a balltearer, a shame for McClellan his first loss ended his career and his health. Certainly was a savage era for British boxing with the Michael Watson tragedy as well. No one could touch Calzaghe at that time though.exactly, calzaghe was a tough mofo, he is top of my list, I think he doesn't get the recognition he deserves sure dont they all dream of having a record like joes It's a shame he didn't fight the best at the time,imagine a young Roy Jones vs Calzaghe,I can't even imagine how that would pan out,but it would no doubt have gone down as one of the greatest fights of that era at least. And what about Toney,it's hard to picture 2 more different styles. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 The young Jones jr who fought Toney is a completely different man to the one who fought Calzaghe. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Both,he ended up heavyweight. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) Nobody could beat a prime Jones, just look at his record and all the Champions he beat then look at Calzaghes record and see who he fought it's night and day,Calzaghe did well but not a patch on Jones. Jones was the best boxer I've seen,cleaned up middleweight,won a belt at super middleweight,cleaned up at light heavy and even won a heavyweight belt. The Heavyweight fight ended his career however as he was told from numerous sources that once he moved up and put the extra weight on he would never be the same fighter again,he ignored this advice and the people who had advised him were proved correct. Had he retired after winning the Heavyweight strap he would have been remembered as arguably the goat, but he couldn't walk away from boxing and is still fighting now a complete shadow of his former self. A shot faded Jones was still able to drop Calzaghe, Joe would have been well beat with a prime Jones. Ps Benn was not the first person to beat Mclennan,he had lost to Dennis Milton and Ralph Ward both in 1989 . Edited December 1, 2015 by MickC 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 When Joe Calzaghe should've been having his best fights he was going through a lot of problems in his personal life and he had a lot of trouble with his hands. Lots of what ifs with Joe's career but he's probably up there as British #1. ps Jones Jr dropped Joe with a forearm smash. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,967 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 When Joe Calzaghe should've been having his best fights he was going through a lot of problems in his personal life and he had a lot of trouble with his hands. Lots of what ifs with Joe's career but he's probably up there as British #1. ps Jones Jr dropped Joe with a forearm smash. and joe got up and defeated him 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 When Joe Calzaghe should've been having his best fights he was going through a lot of problems in his personal life and he had a lot of trouble with his hands. Lots of what ifs with Joe's career but he's probably up there as British #1. ps Jones Jr dropped Joe with a forearm smash. and joe got up and defeated him and jones went on to win another world title And not long before he fought Calzaghe,he went the distance in a hard fight with a blown up semi-retired welterweight. Jones was just something else in his prime. A better fight to test Calzaghe would have been Toney imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) Calzaghe is the best British SMW but he missed out for what ever reasons on some big fights. His best career wins were over Kessler and Lacy,Lacy was said to be a hype job but he wasn't he was the next big American fighter,Calzaghe just never got the credit for beating him the way he did and Lacy was never the same after the loss to him.Calzaghe did have wins over Jones ( 20th year as a pro) and Hopkins (20th year as a pro) but they were not the same fighters they had been,I thought Hopkins had beat Calzaghe but he got the decision,and to be fair to Calzaghe Hopkins did have some more big wins after the loss to Calzaghe. Plenty people say Froch would have beat Calzaghe but Calzaghe had to much movement, too busy and to fast and a very good engine and high work rate for him to lose to Froch,plus how many times in his career did Froch have to come from behind to win fights,you never saw that with Calzaghe . I remember watching an interview with either Benn or Eubank when they were World champions and they were asked if they would fight Jones and one of them replied " he's too good for us" . Edited December 1, 2015 by MickC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) Benn was and will always be my fave British fighter, his never say die attitude and all action style was great. The tragic loss of his older brother fuelled the fire inside of him. I can remember the hype building up to the McClellan fight, all the talk of how he was a monster and the damage he was going to do to Benn. Thing is Nigel was like a cornered Tiger and when he went face to face with the killer with no fear at all I got chills like no fight before or since. Edited December 1, 2015 by DogFox123 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 When Joe Calzaghe should've been having his best fights he was going through a lot of problems in his personal life and he had a lot of trouble with his hands. Lots of what ifs with Joe's career but he's probably up there as British #1. ps Jones Jr dropped Joe with a forearm smash. and joe got up and defeated him and jones went on to win another world title And not long before he fought Calzaghe,he went the distance in a hard fight with a blown up semi-retired welterweight. Jones was just something else in his prime. A better fight to test Calzaghe would have been Toney imo And a prime Toney lost every round to Jones getting his first defeat in 1994, that's how good Jones was . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 When Joe Calzaghe should've been having his best fights he was going through a lot of problems in his personal life and he had a lot of trouble with his hands. Lots of what ifs with Joe's career but he's probably up there as British #1. ps Jones Jr dropped Joe with a forearm smash. and joe got up and defeated himand jones went on to win another world title And not long before he fought Calzaghe,he went the distance in a hard fight with a blown up semi-retired welterweight. Jones was just something else in his prime. A better fight to test Calzaghe would have been Toney imo And a prime Toney lost every round to Jones getting his first defeat in 1994, that's how good Jones was . I can remember when McClellan beat Jones in the amateurs, Jones was the most gifted athlete the game has ever seen. Is athleticism hid away the fact that he was packing a glass chin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I agree DF,once the speed,reflexes and agility started to leave him he suffered some KO losses to fighters who would have never landed a shot on him . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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