Wales1234 5,513 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Besides the fact the pups not gone win many shows is a pup being under shot a problem? Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Theres been some good undershot dogs. Better than being overshot. Quote Link to post
The one 8,477 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 It's mouths no going to be shut when it's latched on 3 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,513 Posted November 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 That's what I thought looks don't kill !! Fair play the little lad is a fighter he had a touch of rickets aswell pretty much straight now plenty of calcium into him now seen both parents do the job time and time again 1 Quote Link to post
Simpleman 1 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 My border is a little undershot, never stoped him doing his job. Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Some of the best holding dogs are bred to be under shot eg bull dogs Edited November 29, 2015 by leethedog 2 Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 45,382 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Undershot over shot don't make a difference,if it's got the heart the job will get done.my best dog was undershot and never threw it on any of his pups.just don't breed two together with bad mouths cause then you may get a few more.atb dc 2 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,513 Posted November 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Undershot over shot don't make a difference,if it's got the heart the job will get done.my best dog was undershot and never threw it on any of his pups.just don't breed two together with bad mouths cause then you may get a few more.atb dcHappy days !! His breeding is top notch been digging the parents Regular both good dogs !! Put him in his kennel nice box full of paper desides he rather sleep on the floor in the saw dust lol 1 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 There is only one way to find out matey. . . . . And there are a lot of digging dogs out there with buggered up jaws / teeth. . . . that still do the job! 4 Quote Link to post
eastcoast 4,122 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Some of the best holding dogs are bred to be under shot eg bull dogs I don't think that bulldogs were selectively bred to be undershot, more likely used an excuse when the fancy started to inbreed to and produce freakish animals long after bull baiting had passed. No need to breed from a working terrier these days with an undershot mouth. Not a reason not to work him though . 2 Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Some of the best holding dogs are bred to be under shot eg bull dogs I don't think that bulldogs were selectively bred to be undershot, more likely used an excuse when the fancy started to inbreed to and produce freakish animals long after bull baiting had passed. No need to breed from a working terrier these days with an undershot mouth. Not a reason not to work him though . why would you not breed from an undershot dog if it was a great worker. Only reason i can see is for the show ring. 3 Quote Link to post
TOPPER 1,809 Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 one of the best lakies i had was under shot never stopped him killed every fox he came across 1 Quote Link to post
lurchers 2,769 Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Some of the best holding dogs are bred to be under shot eg bull dogs I don't think that bulldogs were selectively bred to be undershot, more likely used an excuse when the fancy started to inbreed to and produce freakish animals long after bull baiting had passed. No need to breed from a working terrier these days with an undershot mouth. Not a reason not to work him though . why would you not breed from an undershot dog if it was a great worker. Only reason i can see is for the show ring. Why start breeding bad mouth dogs when they have just stated about the Bulldogs.i wouldn't breed of a bad mouth dog and don't care how good he is,but when it comes to breed from his off Spring that's when the chances is high in throwing more out with bad mouths as it will and does happen and not just for the show ring either before this gets jumped on.you put a dog to a bitch with a bad mouth there might not be 1 pup in that litter with a bad mouth but when you breed from them pups you could end up with a full litter of bad mouths which is what nobody will want so why rust it just to end up stuck with a litter or culled because nobody will take one as its a breeding fault which you don't want to be putting into your dogs. 1 Quote Link to post
chesney 5,451 Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 That may apply for people into show dogs but personally if they were bred from good sound working stock id take my chances undershot or not who cares wants they stay. 2 Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Some of the best holding dogs are bred to be under shot eg bull dogs I don't think that bulldogs were selectively bred to be undershot, more likely used an excuse when the fancy started to inbreed to and produce freakish animals long after bull baiting had passed. No need to breed from a working terrier these days with an undershot mouth. Not a reason not to work him though . why would you not breed from an undershot dog if it was a great worker. Only reason i can see is for the show ring.Why start breeding bad mouth dogs when they have just stated about the Bulldogs.i wouldn't breed of a bad mouth dog and don't care how good he is,but when it comes to breed from his off Spring that's when the chances is high in throwing more out with bad mouths as it will and does happen and not just for the show ring either before this gets jumped on.you put a dog to a bitch with a bad mouth there might not be 1 pup in that litter with a bad mouth but when you breed from them pups you could end up with a full litter of bad mouths which is what nobody will want so why rust it just to end up stuck with a litter or culled because nobody will take one as its a breeding fault which you don't want to be putting into your dogs.why is undershot a bad mouth? If you breed for work and it doesnt effect its work whats the problem? Its asthetics, which isnt taken into account when breeding workers, i hope. Quote Link to post
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