staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Glad you guys got something to look at other than the dog when out lol 2 Quote Link to post
Trev70 5,185 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Some saluki x's make roe look easy in the day. 1 Quote Link to post
logan 447 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Pre ban how did people rate ther saluki types on deer i no in there origional country they are used on gazelle but our deer are alot more of a stronger aponant once tackled ?? Atbiv ran the same line of saluki x for years and i woulndnt own another dog for this job . Quote Link to post
frankel 2,123 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Red in day on open land 2 Quote Link to post
Butler 396 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 The test with the larger deer was never the catching but the stopping.... Just because your dog makes contact doesn't mean you have them in the bag. 9 Quote Link to post
ian 1 36 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Pre ban how did people rate ther saluki types on deer i no in there origional country they are used on gazelle but our deer are alot more of a stronger aponant once tackled ?? Atb? i had a well bred saluki x grey that done alot of sika and roe but he was a strong dog and mad for it ,but have seen others that will take them but cant hold them sika single handed Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 did not mean to spoil the thred i take my pre ban deer hunting very serious iv seen small rain deer stand theyer ground aganst man and dog even found a clip on you tub of jest that. https://youtu.be/1Ln6wd4thsE 4 Quote Link to post
Silversnake 1,099 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 cool thread, i would love to run fallow or any deer for that matter. Here in OZ we are allowed to bail and flush deer with dogs but not lug. when i teach my bull arab to bail i will have a crack at them lol. Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,315 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Roe could be explosive,fast to reach top speed but many were just plain stupid and were easy pickings to a half handy dog,they had a good sharp short burst of speed then the gas started to run out,Fallow does were poor in the main,when a dog got within touching distance they folded and that was that,their other halves the Buck's were more of a test for sure obviously with being heavier,stronger and just more darn awkward for the dog to get over.Red's were a different ball game altogether,a decent hind can stand over 42tts without its large neck and huge head on top they could intimidate many dogs just with their sheer size,that's not without even talking about the Stags..many dogs would run them but grabbing and then keeping a hold was a whole different ball game..them beasts although looking cumbersome with their running style were seriously fast,their sheer size & power alone meant for the most no obstacle was a hindrance to them,their stamina was unbelievable, double,treble in fact probably five fold of that of other UK deer species..they weren't called the ULTIMATE test of a running dog for nothing..Red's ruled and nothing came close guys. 7 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Roe could be explosive,fast to reach top speed but many were just plain stupid and were easy pickings to a half handy dog,they had a good sharp short burst of speed then the gas started to run out,Fallow does were poor in the main,when a dog got within touching distance they folded and that was that,their other halves the Buck's were more of a test for sure obviously with being heavier,stronger and just more darn awkward for the dog to get over.Red's were a different ball game altogether,a decent hind can stand over 42tts without its large neck and huge head on top they could intimidate many dogs just with their sheer size,that's not without even talking about the Stags..many dogs would run them but grabbing and then keeping a hold was a whole different ball game..them beasts although looking cumbersome with their running style were seriously fast,their sheer size & power alone meant for the most no obstacle was a hindrance to them,their stamina was unbelievable, double,treble in fact probably five fold of that of other UK deer species..they weren't called the ULTIMATE test of a running dog for nothing..Red's ruled and nothing came close guys. Very true. . . . . and probably why he mentioned it in the initial post. . . . .? What species APART FROM big reds. . . . . 1 Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Only got a few deer myself, roe,fallow,sika. Would of loved to have saw,hunted , chinese and muntjac Quote Link to post
Silversnake 1,099 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Roe could be explosive,fast to reach top speed but many were just plain stupid and were easy pickings to a half handy dog,they had a good sharp short burst of speed then the gas started to run out,Fallow does were poor in the main,when a dog got within touching distance they folded and that was that,their other halves the Buck's were more of a test for sure obviously with being heavier,stronger and just more darn awkward for the dog to get over.Red's were a different ball game altogether,a decent hind can stand over 42tts without its large neck and huge head on top they could intimidate many dogs just with their sheer size,that's not without even talking about the Stags..many dogs would run them but grabbing and then keeping a hold was a whole different ball game..them beasts although looking cumbersome with their running style were seriously fast,their sheer size & power alone meant for the most no obstacle was a hindrance to them,their stamina was unbelievable, double,treble in fact probably five fold of that of other UK deer species..they weren't called the ULTIMATE test of a running dog for nothing..Red's ruled and nothing came close guys.I reckon you must have seen some thrilling runs over the years, pre ban of course. Quote Link to post
Ausnick 190 Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Roe could be explosive,fast to reach top speed but many were just plain stupid and were easy pickings to a half handy dog,they had a good sharp short burst of speed then the gas started to run out,Fallow does were poor in the main,when a dog got within touching distance they folded and that was that,their other halves the Buck's were more of a test for sure obviously with being heavier,stronger and just more darn awkward for the dog to get over.Red's were a different ball game altogether,a decent hind can stand over 42tts without its large neck and huge head on top they could intimidate many dogs just with their sheer size,that's not without even talking about the Stags..many dogs would run them but grabbing and then keeping a hold was a whole different ball game..them beasts although looking cumbersome with their running style were seriously fast,their sheer size & power alone meant for the most no obstacle was a hindrance to them,their stamina was unbelievable, double,treble in fact probably five fold of that of other UK deer species..they weren't called the ULTIMATE test of a running dog for nothing..Red's ruled and nothing came close guys. And then there's sambar deer over here that are as smart as anything, run down the hill quicker than a red, twice the size, twice the stamina, but once tripped even the biggest of stags will lay down and squeak like an elk bugling with just a single 28 inch dog on the throat. And on a flat or up hill they're as fast as a fox. 2 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Roe could be explosive,fast to reach top speed but many were just plain stupid and were easy pickings to a half handy dog,they had a good sharp short burst of speed then the gas started to run out,Fallow does were poor in the main,when a dog got within touching distance they folded and that was that,their other halves the Buck's were more of a test for sure obviously with being heavier,stronger and just more darn awkward for the dog to get over.Red's were a different ball game altogether,a decent hind can stand over 42tts without its large neck and huge head on top they could intimidate many dogs just with their sheer size,that's not without even talking about the Stags..many dogs would run them but grabbing and then keeping a hold was a whole different ball game..them beasts although looking cumbersome with their running style were seriously fast,their sheer size & power alone meant for the most no obstacle was a hindrance to them,their stamina was unbelievable, double,treble in fact probably five fold of that of other UK deer species..they weren't called the ULTIMATE test of a running dog for nothing..Red's ruled and nothing came close guys. And then there's sambar deer over here that are as smart as anything, run down the hill quicker than a red, twice the size, twice the stamina, but once tripped even the biggest of stags will lay down and squeak like an elk bugling with just a single 28 inch dog on the throat. And on a flat or up hill they're as fast as a fox. I can't see anything taking down and holding down a Red Deer on its own let alone a Sambar...... 1 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Roe could be explosive,fast to reach top speed but many were just plain stupid and were easy pickings to a half handy dog,they had a good sharp short burst of speed then the gas started to run out,Fallow does were poor in the main,when a dog got within touching distance they folded and that was that,their other halves the Buck's were more of a test for sure obviously with being heavier,stronger and just more darn awkward for the dog to get over.Red's were a different ball game altogether,a decent hind can stand over 42tts without its large neck and huge head on top they could intimidate many dogs just with their sheer size,that's not without even talking about the Stags..many dogs would run them but grabbing and then keeping a hold was a whole different ball game..them beasts although looking cumbersome with their running style were seriously fast,their sheer size & power alone meant for the most no obstacle was a hindrance to them,their stamina was unbelievable, double,treble in fact probably five fold of that of other UK deer species..they weren't called the ULTIMATE test of a running dog for nothing..Red's ruled and nothing came close guys. And then there's sambar deer over here that are as smart as anything, run down the hill quicker than a red, twice the size, twice the stamina, but once tripped even the biggest of stags will lay down and squeak like an elk bugling with just a single 28 inch dog on the throat. And on a flat or up hill they're as fast as a fox. I can't see anything taking down and holding down a Red Deer on its own let alone a Sambar...... Still happens though. 4 Quote Link to post
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