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In General Is A 22 Springer Shot Cycle Nicer?


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I am with coypu on this one, I have fired some out of the box .22 Weihrauch rifles that sounded and felt like a car crash, and equally some .177 that felt rather refined,take two identical rifles in both calibres, and tune them to the same degree, and the .22 will perhaps feel a little less lively,but I am talking a little bit here, however I would always put up with a tiny bit more recoil, to benifit from the superior performance, of the performance calibre .177 :D

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I seem to hear that a .22 springer has a more pleasant shot cycle, on average, compared to a .177. Any truth to that info?

Hello there

As a matter of interest what power are your rifles over there as most of us over here are sub 12 ft lbs, if we want more power the have to be a registered fire arm.

If you are on sub 12 pound guns I will tell you what I think I know, I say this because there are some real clever lads on here of which I am too new to be one of them.

Here goes. I think the Hw twenty two's that I have used and owned HW97/77/95 and 80 have all been full power and fire sweet because they are not working hard to meet the power requirments of almost 12 ft lbs.

.177 use a smaller lighter pellet and require more air to get it up to the higher speed it needs to get up to 12ft lbs.

The 22 pellet is bigger/heavier and travels slower to reach the muzzle energy of 12 ft lbs.

Not sure what that sounds like but there you go.

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Still depends on the rifle. 13 fpe .177 HW97K with V-Mach, snappy, fast lock time but no recoil. 16 fpe .22 HW85, untuned, smooth but slower lock time, and kicks.

 

If you're looking to buy a springer, rather than just asking the question for philosophical reasons, then try before you buy. ;)

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Hi Newlife, Your in Canada i see :bye:

As said, what power level laws are there in Canada ? We are sub 12 ft/lbs kinetic energy max`.

Well i am no "boffin" but from what little i know the weight of your rifle and lightweight piston = low recoil. The compression stroke length plays a major part too.

The Air Arms TX 200 has a short compression stroke, light weight piston and is "heavy".= less recoil displacement. Put these facts on good quality shooting sticks and a good quality scope the .177 cal comes back into the room, "big style".

So much so that you are matching pcp`s, that is why my back up rifle is a T Rex 200 .177 mk3, (now it is no back up, it is used just as much) :yes:

Hold sensitivity plays a major, major role in accuracy,= low recoil, Heavy rifle', heavy scope, light weight piston, short compression stroke.

 

Hope my memory is there abouts, -

 

Good luck with your choices :good:

 

 

P.S. i`m sure some of the springer lads will put me right if i am wrong but should`nt be far off. atb

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Hi Newlife, Your in Canada i see :bye:

As said, what power level laws are there in Canada ? We are sub 12 ft/lbs kinetic energy max`.

Well i am no "boffin" but from what little i know the weight of your rifle and lightweight piston = low recoil. The compression stroke length plays a major part too.

The Air Arms TX 200 has a short compression stroke, light weight piston and is "heavy".= less recoil displacement. Put these facts on good quality shooting sticks and a good quality scope the .177 cal comes back into the room, "big style".

So much so that you are matching pcp`s, that is why my back up rifle is a T Rex 200 .177 mk3, (now it is no back up, it is used just as much) :yes:

Hold sensitivity plays a major, major role in accuracy,= low recoil, Heavy rifle', heavy scope, light weight piston, short compression stroke.

 

Hope my memory is there abouts, -

 

Good luck with your choices :good:

 

 

P.S. i`m sure some of the springer lads will put me right if i am wrong but should`nt be far off. atb

Spot on Mark.

 

Its an interesting point you make, as the little 99 or the Imp for example are blisteringly accurate and they go against the grain mentioned in your post.

 

Ive found in my own shooting that whatever the rifle is doing, even if it kicks like a mule, the more you shoot it the more your accuracy will improve irrlevent of weight, tuning etc. Now Ive been shooting my little 99 more, I go back to the old 97, the bigger and heavier the better idea in mind, and Im a bit off key with it.

 

Everyone will shoot a springer, heavy or light, better the more they shoot it.

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Hi Newlife, Your in Canada i see :bye:

As said, what power level laws are there in Canada ? We are sub 12 ft/lbs kinetic energy max`.

Well i am no "boffin" but from what little i know the weight of your rifle and lightweight piston = low recoil. The compression stroke length plays a major part too.

The Air Arms TX 200 has a short compression stroke, light weight piston and is "heavy".= less recoil displacement. Put these facts on good quality shooting sticks and a good quality scope the .177 cal comes back into the room, "big style".

So much so that you are matching pcp`s, that is why my back up rifle is a T Rex 200 .177 mk3, (now it is no back up, it is used just as much) :yes:

Hold sensitivity plays a major, major role in accuracy,= low recoil, Heavy rifle', heavy scope, light weight piston, short compression stroke.

 

Hope my memory is there abouts, -

 

Good luck with your choices :good:

 

 

P.S. i`m sure some of the springer lads will put me right if i am wrong but should`nt be far off. atb

O, REALLY MARK :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

 

 

IM NOT SAYING NOWT

 

AS I DONT KNOW NOWT ABOUT SPRING RIFLES :yes::whistling:

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