WILF 46,687 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 The state has assumed massive control over people in the western world.....it as communist as it gets short of the former Soviet Union IMHO We need a massive lurch to right wing, libertarian principals again......unfortunately it takes extremism to counter extremism !! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 The state has assumed massive control over people in the western world.....it as communist as it gets short of the former Soviet Union IMHO We need a massive lurch to right wing, libertarian principals again......unfortunately it takes extremism to counter extremism !! Why would that ever happen? There are no vast frontiers left that necessitate it,so no culture will emerge that promotes it imo especially while the world's so overpopulated. As nice as that would be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackStreak 498 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 The state has a massive control over people in the western world.....it as communist as it gets short of the former Soviet Union IMHO We need a massive lurch to right wing, libertarian principals again......unfortunately it takes extremism to counter extremism !! I totally agree. That's why my vote is going for Ted Cruise. I think Cruise will be just as effective at as Donald at fixing whats broken, but do so in a way that reinstates or constitution, it's values, and it's true meanings. Donald is an awsome business man and abiding by our Constitution would certainly be the best thing for business and the health of this country that could possibly be done BUT Donald in NOT a constitutional conservative. I'm afraid he would over correct and put America on the path to becoming an evil empire. Just my personal fears about Donald. That's why i say it would be very interesting to see what he does if elected. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Jackknife. - no I didn't say that! But I seem to remember that it was the pretty right wing bush administration that got us into this shit at the start. I'm not sure lurching from one extreme to the other for relatively short periods of time does much for the governance of a country. Some nice non extremist sane person would be great. Unfortunatly we've only got politicians to choose from! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackStreak 498 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Jackknife. - no I didn't say that! But I seem to remember that it was the pretty right wing bush administration that got us into this shit at the start. I'm not sure lurching from one extreme to the other for relatively short periods of time does much for the governance of a country. Some nice non extremist sane person would be great. Unfortunatly we've only got politicians to choose from! Bush was not a Republican at best. Not a conservative. Got to go a little farther right than the Bushs to get to conservatism. The problems excited well before the Bushs. Matter of fact thier is always problems with government. Bush like most didn't do much to address these problems and grew many off them by various mean and reasons. Takes a good constitutional conservative to take control of government and not be part of the problem. Lobbies and big corporate money have a way of swaying the minds of good people who do not firmly govern by the constition. Liberals, Demecrates, and Republicans I have not much use for because they are either the cause of most problems or ignore them and let most branches govern themselves and don't check them and keep them in line. A conservative isn't perfect but abides by the constition which is the most perfect set of rules and commandments we have. Their is a reason why our continuation says what it does and they don't like It for many personal reasons of greed and power. They think they are smarter than our founding fathers who built this country and are responsible for it being what we were. Everything about our founding documents is for small effective effecient government that promotes self independence, not dependence on big government. The bushes were no exception just because they had an R by their name. Need a C for Constitutional conservative by the next presidents name lol. Sorry for the rant but their is more than just dems and reps, eventhough the good conservatives have to identify under the R 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawki 1,431 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 BlackStreak im not clued up on US politics at all, but bare with me Lobbies and big corporate money have a way of swaying the minds of good people who do not firmly govern by the constition what do you mean by lobbies and big corporate? is it big company's and back handers? if so what big company's are they? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,687 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Morgan Stanley Oil Tobacco Monsanto The list is endless and they also sponsor Harvard and Yale lecturers to teach budding politicians how things should be done according to them ! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) I dare say the likes of Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Chevron and Pfizer etc attract a fair amount of controversy too. Edited November 26, 2015 by Born Hunter 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackStreak 498 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Ever hear of salindra. My government has give tens upon tens of millions to individual made up companies like this that they claim they have thoroughly researched. Only to have the company disappear within a few months of the public finding out about the secret funds given to them. Kinda like the 40 million dollar gas station that shouldn't have cost 1 million we supposedly built in the dessert in Iraq for the Iraqi people that will never open or pump a drop of gas. I doubt there was even any lobbing for these funds and these bogus companies. I'm kinda speculating now but we can't get any answers or see where the money was actually spent so best we can do is speculate. I suspect curruption at the highest of levels! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Finn 3,011 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) I definitely would be interesting to see an Donald Trump president. Not so sure it's what we need but i definitely would walked back a lot of the Obama policies. I am more for Ted Cruise. He is the most right wing of them all. Very sharp man and I feel like he stands behind our Constitution more than anyone else. Ted has my vote but i wouldnt be disappointed if trump won either I do t thinnk. So long as we dog get one of the establishment republicans like Bush we will be alright. Nice group of candidates this time to chops fromjust hope it's the one who does right by the us, and sends a warning over to here, uk , to get our house in order I don't know what's going on with yalls government but i hope and pray who ever gets elected here, reclaims our country's integrity and cleans house and puts these criminals we have in office now in prison for crimes of domestic and foreign terrism. And starts holding our people responsible for their cover ups. The reason Donald is doing so well is because of how sick so many people are with our rogue government. They think his boldness will undo a lot of stuff the Obama administration has done. Plus they see him financing his own campaign and thus think he is serious about this countries welfare and the world for that matter. Problem with everyone else is they get money from big corporations and feel obligated to them in some fashion making them very subsetable to lobbies and crap. Plus Donald is serious about stopping the flood of illegals coming in and securing our boarder. Several other candidates are but it's such an issue and Donald is so bold and bullish that they think he is the man to actually get it done. I can't totally say that this is wrong. So I think the Donald may actually make a good president at this time. Any other time and I'd absolutely not! Oh boy. I could just see his first day in office with the Joint Chiefs gathered around him. Happy Thanksgiving Black Streak! Edited November 26, 2015 by Mickey Finn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bob.243 8,668 Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 A couple of Donald's pets. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Now a petition to ban Trump from the UK. Let's hope it is treated in the same just way as the past petitions to keep hate preachers out of the UK. http://news.sky.com/story/1602440/thousands-sign-ban-trump-from-uk-petition Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil cooney 10,416 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Now a petition to ban Trump from the UK. Let's hope it is treated in the same just way as the past petitions to keep hate preachers out of the UK. http://news.sky.com/story/1602440/thousands-sign-ban-trump-from-uk-petition That's interesting, a petition to keep someone out of your country because he wants to keep someone out of his country . 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J Darcy 5,871 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 It's funny how some shout from the rafters about 'Free speach', but this is only applicable if it's something they want to hear...... 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,734 Posted February 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Well looks like mr trump is enroute to becoming the next president of the USA, good luck mr trump, ya have my vote 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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