bigmac 97kt 13,776 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Cheers lads a lot of good info coming this way and its all very help full thanks atvbmac :thumbs: 1 Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,729 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Cheers lads a lot of good info coming this way and its all very help full thanks atvbmac :thumbs: Good luck mac might aswell put in for shotgun coterminous too. Quote Link to post
just-A-snap 1,269 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 May be useful https://www.gov.uk/disclosure-barring-service-check All the best Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,729 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 May be useful https://www.gov.uk/disclosure-barring-service-check All the best Handy link! Just been told the £56 check is for teachers. Quote Link to post
walshie 2,804 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I thought the only DBS check you could get for yourself was the Basic one which doesn't show spent stuff on there. Quote Link to post
just-A-snap 1,269 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I thought the only DBS check you could get for yourself was the Basic one which doesn't show spent stuff on there. My understanding is that disclosure is dependent on job environment, work with children and so on. Again my understanding is that all convictions are still on record somewhere and are available to police, security services and such. My be wrong but spent convictions have a habit of turning up. Quote Link to post
walshie 2,804 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I thought the only DBS check you could get for yourself was the Basic one which doesn't show spent stuff on there. My understanding is that disclosure is dependent on job environment, work with children and so on. Again my understanding is that all convictions are still on record somewhere and are available to police, security services and such. My be wrong but spent convictions have a habit of turning up. I have to get checks for people at my work. We only get the basic ones which are just like a certificate with (hopefully) nothing on it. If there's anything iffy on it, we go for the full one. Mac wanted it to know what he had/hadn't done the past and a basic wouldn't tell him that. The FEO will know EVERYTHING though. No such thing as spent convictions as far as firearms are concerned. And rightly so IMO. Quote Link to post
Del1810 5 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Basic DBS checks will only show current convictions etc. A caution is not a conviction and is spent after two years. An enhanced DBS check will show everything on it and is designed for people who work with children vulnerable people or need an enhanced level of security for their job. Check the statutes of limitations on offences this will tell you if it needs to be declared. Just put on it that you had convictions xxx long ago they will automatically check the police national computer anyway and when they grant you a FAC you'll have a PNC record generated as a matter of course so they know that your a FAC holder. This is to show you can lawfully possess firearms and that when carrying them in they know potentially you have a firearm in the vehicle. This negates officers seizing firearms u Gil they can verify your lawfully in possession of them and ruining a shooting session. Quote Link to post
just-A-snap 1,269 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I thought the only DBS check you could get for yourself was the Basic one which doesn't show spent stuff on there. My understanding is that disclosure is dependent on job environment, work with children and so on. Again my understanding is that all convictions are still on record somewhere and are available to police, security services and such. My be wrong but spent convictions have a habit of turning up. I have to get checks for people at my work. We only get the basic ones which are just like a certificate with (hopefully) nothing on it. If there's anything iffy on it, we go for the full one. Mac wanted it to know what he had/hadn't done the past and a basic wouldn't tell him that. The FEO will know EVERYTHING though. No such thing as spent convictions as far as firearms are concerned. And rightly so IMO. Correct, I worked full time for a charity for over Twelve Years, all staff and volunteers had to have the old CRB check, all had to have children related offences as part of the CRB disclosure, as work with children in the building was part of the charitable status. Those of us who also had accesses to revenue generated from donations and cash in other words accesses to money, theft and fraud was also part of the check criteria. I am a Millwall supporter and had a string of convictions in the 1970s for violence, was disclosed by myself before asked when I applied for the job in 1995, I am confident that it was asked for as a routine for all staff and volunteers, and shown on the CRB check at that time spent or not. No such thing as spent convictions as far as firearms are concerned. And rightly so IMO. 100% to that. All the best 1 Quote Link to post
just-A-snap 1,269 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Basic DBS checks will only show current convictions etc. A caution is not a conviction and is spent after two years. An enhanced DBS check will show everything on it and is designed for people who work with children vulnerable people or need an enhanced level of security for their job. Check the statutes of limitations on offences this will tell you if it needs to be declared. Just put on it that you had convictions xxx long ago they will automatically check the police national computer anyway and when they grant you a FAC you'll have a PNC record generated as a matter of course so they know that your a FAC holder. This is to show you can lawfully possess firearms and that when carrying them in they know potentially you have a firearm in the vehicle. This negates officers seizing firearms u Gil they can verify your lawfully in possession of them and ruining a shooting session. Did not see your post. All the best Quote Link to post
walshie 2,804 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Basic DBS checks will only show current convictions etc. A caution is not a conviction and is spent after two years. An enhanced DBS check will show everything on it and is designed for people who work with children vulnerable people or need an enhanced level of security for their job. Check the statutes of limitations on offences this will tell you if it needs to be declared. Just put on it that you had convictions xxx long ago they will automatically check the police national computer anyway and when they grant you a FAC you'll have a PNC record generated as a matter of course so they know that your a FAC holder. This is to show you can lawfully possess firearms and that when carrying them in they know potentially you have a firearm in the vehicle. This negates officers seizing firearms u Gil they can verify your lawfully in possession of them and ruining a shooting session. If you are referring to spent convictions, they are spent under the Rehabilitation of Offenders act 1974, but this is specifically excluded by Firearms Acts. Otherwise the lifetime ban for anyone who has been sentenced to more than 3 years wouldn't/couldn't apply. For purposes of the Firearms Acts there is no such thing as a spent conviction. You must include all convictions, including ALL motoring offences except fixed penalty and parking tickets, whether still recorded on your driving licence or otherwise - whether in Britain or abroad. Informal Cautions do not need to be mentioned, but formal written cautions and conditional or absolute discharges do. Of course you could omit what you like from your application, but it won't look good on the eyes of the FEO. Quote Link to post
just-A-snap 1,269 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Basic DBS checks will only show current convictions etc. A caution is not a conviction and is spent after two years. An enhanced DBS check will show everything on it and is designed for people who work with children vulnerable people or need an enhanced level of security for their job. Check the statutes of limitations on offences this will tell you if it needs to be declared. Just put on it that you had convictions xxx long ago they will automatically check the police national computer anyway and when they grant you a FAC you'll have a PNC record generated as a matter of course so they know that your a FAC holder. This is to show you can lawfully possess firearms and that when carrying them in they know potentially you have a firearm in the vehicle. This negates officers seizing firearms u Gil they can verify your lawfully in possession of them and ruining a shooting session. If you are referring to spent convictions, they are spent under the Rehabilitation of Offenders act 1974, but this is specifically excluded by Firearms Acts. Otherwise the lifetime ban for anyone who has been sentenced to more than 3 years wouldn't/couldn't apply. For purposes of the Firearms Acts there is no such thing as a spent conviction. You must include all convictions, including ALL motoring offences except fixed penalty and parking tickets, whether still recorded on your driving licence or otherwise - whether in Britain or abroad. Informal Cautions do not need to be mentioned, but formal written cautions and conditional or absolute discharges do. Of course you could omit what you like from your application, but it won't look good on the eyes of the FEO. May be useful https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/299916/rehabilitation-of-offenders-guidance.pdf All the best Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,776 Posted November 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Iv had crb checks done in the past when i used to drive taxis had to have one every year and i still got my bages Ill give it a go any way and may as well go for my sgc as well thanks lads for all the info atvbmac :thumbs: 1 Quote Link to post
just-A-snap 1,269 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Iv had crb checks done in the past when i used to drive taxis had to have one every year and i still got my bages Ill give it a go any way and may as well go for my sgc as well thanks lads for all the info atvbmac :thumbs: Good luck and all the best Mac Quote Link to post
walshie 2,804 Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Glad you've seen the light. Quote Link to post
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