Debt

[Lab 10,979]

 

 

f**k me there's some folk led sheltered lives or never took any chances!!

The whole of the developed world is in hock to the tune if trillions and yet your ordinary Joe soap who is being raped day in, day out by the very same governments is meant to feel ashamed of not paying off a car loan !!

These people will write of f***ing zillions of your money at the stroke of a pen to cancel 3rd world debt, pull in every small business owners over draft to pay for it and he will be the poor c**t losing his house and not being able to pay his suppliers !!

f**k sake, does anyone have a clue what's actually going on in the world ?.........it's not 1930 any more !!

Every argument seems to begin with "but the government do this....."

So f**k!!! We know there a bunch of useless bent b*****ds but it's a long road to change that.

Doesn't mean to say you can't take a bit of pride in yourself and do the right thing in life.

Nothing wrong with taking chances, that's how you get breaks in life. But if you take the risks you then you have to be prepared to face the consequences. This is why business's rack up debt, go bust, finish other smaller business's in the making and then start up in a new name!!

Wake up, they are not playing to your rules!

They make the rules up as they go along, if you are in business then you better get real and start realising what you are dealing with.

You are putting your money in an insolvent bank, which is then used by an insolvent government to f**k about about with to other insolvent governments !!......the only one playing by the rules is you!.......and your loosing !

 

Not you personally I don't mean, but in general obviously.

Why is OK for the government to write off 15 billion quid and wrong for some bloke who has tried his hardest to play by the rules to go bankrupt and write off 10 grand ?

 

This is the reality, there is no other !

Not once have I said that's ok mate.....absolutely disgusting what the government does.

The fact that we all think the government are a bunch of scumbags for how they treat us yet on the other hand someone who refuses to pay an agreed amount back is just some 'unfortunate soul',....bollocks.

I do run my own business, I'll run it how I see fit and will always hold my head high in how I run it as well. If I ask for help I will hopefully get it and I will pay back my dues. I will never f**k someone over to get where I want either. Id rather get by with a bit of money and be known as a worker than have millions and be known as a c**t!! But that's just me!!..??

[Truther 1,579]

 

 

f**k me there's some folk led sheltered lives or never took any chances!!

The whole of the developed world is in hock to the tune if trillions and yet your ordinary Joe soap who is being raped day in, day out by the very same governments is meant to feel ashamed of not paying off a car loan !!

These people will write of f***ing zillions of your money at the stroke of a pen to cancel 3rd world debt, pull in every small business owners over draft to pay for it and he will be the poor c**t losing his house and not being able to pay his suppliers !!

f**k sake, does anyone have a clue what's actually going on in the world ?.........it's not 1930 any more !!

"f**k sake, does anyone have a clue what's going on in the world ?" After reading this thread the answer to that must be "not many" mate Just like everybody likes to batter the insignificant "dole scroungers" that brainwashed they champion their real oppressors cause lol.

I think most people realise there's shit at both ends of the scale tbh.......but most of us are just trying get by the best we can, regardless, what else can you do?

 

 

Not a lot mate imo...............There's people commenting supporting the very people that are their enemies, these enemies don'd play by the rules these people are supporting.............its proper f****d up

 

Just for the record........iv'e no sympathy for folk who run needless debt up and expect bailing out, or go bankrupt, they're also our enemy.

[WILF 47,354]

 

 

 

f**k me there's some folk led sheltered lives or never took any chances!!

The whole of the developed world is in hock to the tune if trillions and yet your ordinary Joe soap who is being raped day in, day out by the very same governments is meant to feel ashamed of not paying off a car loan !!

These people will write of f***ing zillions of your money at the stroke of a pen to cancel 3rd world debt, pull in every small business owners over draft to pay for it and he will be the poor c**t losing his house and not being able to pay his suppliers !!

f**k sake, does anyone have a clue what's actually going on in the world ?.........it's not 1930 any more !!

Every argument seems to begin with "but the government do this....."

So f**k!!! We know there a bunch of useless bent b*****ds but it's a long road to change that.

Doesn't mean to say you can't take a bit of pride in yourself and do the right thing in life.

Nothing wrong with taking chances, that's how you get breaks in life. But if you take the risks you then you have to be prepared to face the consequences. This is why business's rack up debt, go bust, finish other smaller business's in the making and then start up in a new name!!

Wake up, they are not playing to your rules!

They make the rules up as they go along, if you are in business then you better get real and start realising what you are dealing with.

You are putting your money in an insolvent bank, which is then used by an insolvent government to f**k about about with to other insolvent governments !!......the only one playing by the rules is you!.......and your loosing !

Not you personally I don't mean, but in general obviously.

Why is OK for the government to write off 15 billion quid and wrong for some bloke who has tried his hardest to play by the rules to go bankrupt and write off 10 grand ?

This is the reality, there is no other !

Not once have I said that's ok mate.....absolutely disgusting what the government does.

The fact that we all think the government are a bunch of scumbags for how they treat us yet on the other hand someone who refuses to pay an agreed amount back is just some 'unfortunate soul',....bollocks.

I do run my own business, I'll run it how I see fit and will always hold my head high in how I run it as well. If I ask for help I will hopefully get it and I will pay back my dues. I will never f**k someone over to get where I want either. Id rather get by with a bit of money and be known as a worker than have millions and be known as a c**t!! But that's just me!!..

Fair enough, and obviously I'm not talking about people who just want to knock the local builder.

 

Other than keeping your close friends and small suppliers paid up then IMHO there is no such thing as "pride" in business.......it's about extracting the maximum amount of money from your time and effort and keeping it !

 

A nice old bloke used to come in my place and his boast was how he had never taken a penny out of his company, he had reinvested it.......when they did the last cancellation of third world debt they called in his small over draft and he went skint !!!

5 or 6 years down the khazi because he was the good guy and had not nicked enough money out the firm to see himself alright !

 

Look at some of the biggest players in property development, look how many times they have been skint......but the banks love them and continue to lend them your money because they come up with a big winner every now and then (if they don't ?, you pay for it !!)

 

It don't get better than that !

Edited November 22, 2015 by WILF

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

To many people want everything now....not prepared to wait and save like people used to

 

Theres an obsession in this country with owning your own house

 

I see far too many people that are all top show and deep in debt

Do you own your own house? Have a mortgage? Or rent?

[nans pat 2,575]

 

I really see no problem with credit as long as you aren't an idiot with it. I have sympathy for anyone who is genuinely going through hard times though. I think a lot of us felt the pinch a couple of years ago.

 

The serial debtors - the ones who "know their rights" when the bailiffs turn up are the reason the rest of us have to pay such high interest rates when we do decide to borrow responsibly.

Do you watch that bailiffs programme that's on the tv the now. The older guys are a couple of genuine lads. They do all they can to help you if you look like you are in serious trouble and are struggling. But they turn up at people's houses where the c**ts have been receiving housing benefit and pocketing it and not paying the landlord. House packed with top of the range gear. I'd f**k them straight on the street.

Why should we all struggle by trying to have the better things in life while working out arses of and others just take take take.

 

a couple of genuine lads....its in the name balliff .same outfit that would turn children onto the streers and have done for centuries.

[jacknife 2,005]

 

To many people want everything now....not prepared to wait and save like people used to

 

Theres an obsession in this country with owning your own house

 

I see far too many people that are all top show and deep in debt

Do you own your own house? Have a mortgage? Or rent?

 

 

I have mortgage that i can easily afford even if my business went tits up

 

I have always been very careful not to get into any sort of un controllable debt

 

If a debt get to the point of bailiffs knocking on your door then in most cases its the persons own fault for doing nothing about it and hoping it goes away

[bob84 189]

I got left money at the age of 12 when my grandparents died it was a far bit of money so my da invested it till I was 18 the a week or so after I was 18 the letter's started from the bank to reinvest it so I put a little over half back in a friend of the families at the time was starting up a business and ask if I wanted in seemed a good ideal so I handed over 15'000 all in good fate with the intention of been a silent partner everything I did I did with the intention of owning my own house with land by the time I was 30 debt free but still work fast forward your man fecked of never to be seen again after a year sold everything with out me knowing when the banks went bang ii lost 70'000 end up taken 900 euro what was left and the banks got away with it and I'm still helping to bail them out haha starting all over again now I'll always pay what I have to I'm happy wife and kids are happy living in a council house with the opportunity to buy it for 60'000 not the house and land we wanted but well get there BUT I could never take money of someone and never give it back.

[tatsblisters 10,122]

Their is a part of the job i do comend and thats the bailiffs who turf out the scum who have been makeing peoples lives i misery in the street they are living on.

[treecreeper 1,136]

I agree with lab there's a way to get anything you want its called hard graft.

[WILF 47,354]

My point is, there probably lads on here turning over in excess of a million quid......now that is f***ing hard graft and it can all get taken away at the stroke of a pen !

They were just running their business not spending beyond their mean and so what if they have a nice car on the drive, if they are grafting hard enough then why not ?

 

It not being Charlie big bollocks, I personally hate those blokes who turn a nice few quid and are mean as f**k with it......they don't deserve money.

[nans pat 2,575]

My point is, there probably lads on here turning over in excess of a million quid......now that is f***ing hard graft and it can all get taken away at the stroke of a pen !

They were just running their business not spending beyond their mean and so what if they have a nice car on the drive, if they are grafting hard enough then why not ?

 

It not being Charlie big bollocks, I personally hate those blokes who turn a nice few quid and are mean as f**k with it......they don't deserve money.

and if somebody in a council estate has a 50,000k car on the drive ..the attitude is hes at it.lol

[Lab 10,979]

My point is, there probably lads on here turning over in excess of a million quid......now that is f***ing hard graft and it can all get taken away at the stroke of a pen !

They were just running their business not spending beyond their mean and so what if they have a nice car on the drive, if they are grafting hard enough then why not ?

 

It not being Charlie big bollocks, I personally hate those blokes who turn a nice few quid and are mean as f**k with it......they don't deserve money.

I must be missing your point mate.?

If you work hard then you can choose to buy whatever you please.

I think there are 2 types of people in the world. Some that look after there money and some that don't give a f**k.

I drive a nice jeep....I share a nice car with the girl....I would like to have a new Subaru but I can't afford it. Now I could go get it but if work dries up or slows down I may struggle and that's how my brain works. Other folk seem to think it's ok to go get what they want and if the money dries up then somebody else should take the financial burden. That's bollocks.

[WILF 47,354]

I know a man who years ago had a 150 blokes working for him when they were building Canary Wharf.......then Olympia & York who developed the place went skint and he was out of business over night.

On Monday he had 150 employees and on Tuesday morning he had nothing !.........so given the fact that not too many people have a 100k in readies laying around to buy a motor with, are we saying he deserved to drive a Mercedes on Monday but was a c**t on Tuesday because he couldn't pay for it any more?

 

It's easy to say "if you can't pay for it don't have it" but at the time lots of people get things they can pay for it.......however they are the plaything of the banks and the government and they decide how the economy works out.

 

The days of the long firm are pretty thin on the ground now so I reckon most people fully intend to pay for things when they get them but if circumstances change through no fault of their own then what can they do?

It don't make them a greedy, work shy prick......it makes them another victim of the powers that be.

 

You watch the BEMPC if they raise interest rates by 1%......see how many people are getting in trouble then?

Is it their fault?

 

Look at all those steel workers who are going to loose their jobs......they probably all have cars and tellys and sofas and a credit card......they can't just get out of those contracts so will they be c**ts if they go bankrupt ?

Is it their fault?

 

Bankruptcy is nothing more than another business tool and the big boys are using it every day.....it's this small minded sense of "doing the right thing" that makes folks condem other folks.

News flash, there is no such thing as the "right thing" when it comes to dealing with big corporations or the government.

Say a bloke does go skint owing the tax man 50k.....it don't effect anyone in the grand scheme of things......they are ironing out 50k on paper clips at the revenue!!

 

I'm lucky in that I am retired and own everything I have but I have lived long enough to know and see how things are.

Atb

Edited November 23, 2015 by WILF

[j j m 6,555]

my mate said to my other mate who he paid the debt for just give me what you can back a week mate,to his surprise he went this morning paid him 2000 and said ive sold my car i cant afford to insure it and tax it when it comes around so at least i can pay a big chunk off my debt,thats got to be good for him in him self as hes a proude person never been in debt before his business went tits up mainly because of people not paying him,but i wonder why he did not take them to the high court do you have to pay a lot to recover a debt i dont know

[WILF 47,354]

my mate said to my other mate who he paid the debt for just give me what you can back a week mate,to his surprise he went this morning paid him 2000 and said ive sold my car i cant afford to insure it and tax it when it comes around so at least i can pay a big chunk off my debt,thats got to be good for him in him self as hes a proude person never been in debt before his business went tits up mainly because of people not paying him,but i wonder why he did not take them to the high court do you have to pay a lot to recover a debt i dont know

And this is the thing mate, bailiffs normally are not calling for your small personal debt of a couple of grand.....it's normally for some big firm or government agency.

Life is all shades of grey lads......if I see a bloke with a Bentley go skint I think "poor f****r"......some people take a warped pleasure in it.