Using A Sire Twice In A Row

[neil cooney 10,416]

All this talk of age affecting results in litter, what's best age to breed off a mutt then?

Again I'm no scientist but I would chance breeding of an old dog because his contribution is small, crucial, but small (I'm aware he's 50% of the genes) and to carry on a line you might want to put him over his grand daughter or even great grand daughter. As long as he's in good health that is.

However because a bitch carries the pups for nine weeks while feeding them from her own body and then while rearing them can take a lot out of some bitches I would only breed out of middle aged bitches that are in great health.

JMO.

[howdeeposxxt 1,448]

To take a tip from a fool is only foolish not wise, Id rather learn make my own mistakes and build on it , and old man told me santa was real but turned out to be BS. And again its a topic that can never be proven the only FACT on this is it will work for some and not others so where we going on this.

[Treehands 1,417]

Not so long back old timers would snap the eye teeth on a ferret, So it goes to show not all old timers talked sence!. Personally I have repeated a mating on numerous occasions to no deficit to work or constitution. He who claims to "know all" is a fool! He who knows nothing and claims to know nothing is the enlightened one! Glitches funakoshi. Okanowa. . Japan

[MOLE265 792]

 

Not splitting hairs mate just a wee correction lol

 

gichin funakoshi founder of shotokan karate.

Three pines.

[Corkman 944]

It is a wise man that is careful who he takes advice as some people no matter what age will never learn.

 

Remember the old lads down my way saying if you pick up a pup by the scruff or jowls and it yelped then the dog was not the one to pick in a litter? All it told me was they were bloody idiots.

 

 

As we are belting out the proverbs.

 

If at first you do not succeed........ Sky diving is not for you.......

Edited December 1, 2015 by Corkman

[Treehands 1,417]

Not splitting hairs mate just a wee correction lol

 

gichin funakoshi founder of shotokan karate.

Three pines.

[Treehands 1,417]

Spell prediction mistake, but cheers anyway. Personal knowledge or just an interest, mole?

[MOLE265 792]

Spell prediction mistake, but cheers anyway. Personal knowledge or just an interest, mole?

 

Used to teach it.

Son entered the odd comp. lol.

[Treehands 1,417]

Snap! 19 years, bones hurt now TH.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

To take the whole topic further ,is there anyone other than those i know of using a stud exclusively as in using him over multiple bitches including repeat matings as long as hes able and proven.

[Treehands 1,417]

I have done in the past,but in my book no dog or bitch should be bred off unless "proven", an proven properly at that!

[neil cooney 10,416]

Not so long back old timers would snap the eye teeth on a ferret, So it goes to show not all old timers talked sence!. Personally I have repeated a mating on numerous occasions to no deficit to work or constitution. He who claims to "know all" is a fool! He who knows nothing and claims to know nothing is the enlightened one! Glitches funakoshi. Okanowa. . Japan

In my experience he who says he knows nothing is usually the guilty one.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Which is why i added proven .Proven to me is not only work but throwing his like too.

[Treehands 1,417]

Guilty of what! Neil?......................Believing everything that an old-timer tells you?....three times repeated a mating, no problems!. Sleight variation of the coat between the three litters. Pups I kept back, all became sensible, reliable grafters.................................... So there you go, Do you have any solid proof that it is detrimental to repeat or is it just "hearsay"..................................and "if", it is hearsay,gossip,old wives tale should you really spout it off as "Gospel"

[neil cooney 10,416]

In a couple of my first posts I did say that it's all a matter of opinion and one thing I do know about breeding is that the recipe for success can't be worked out by a formula on a piece of paper.

The formula is usually to put the best to the best and hope for the best and the classroom is the field.

Yes I agree that the old timers of yesterday were their own worst enemies and a lot of their methods were cruel to say the least. Thankfully those days are gone.

But the sort of men I'm talking about a lot of them are still active dog men and their theories on breeding were well and truly tested and as I keep saying if it works for them then it's good enough for me.

Also as I've said before, I only breed for myself and if a breeding works out then the next breeding that I do will hopefully be the next generation, not a repeat mating.

IMO for a small breeder like myself that would be taking a step backwards.