WILF 46,811 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 I was having this conversation with a lad I know last year, he suffers with depression and has in the past attempted suicide. He is a really nice lad and you can have a sensible chat with him, he was basically saying "nobody knows what it's like blah blah blah" and I said I just thought suicide was selfish in the extreme. It don't matter if you have no family but it certainly does matter if you do. See, in my eyes, with suicide you have a choice and it's quick.......the people you leave behind don't have a choice and it's a lifetime of pain.....and I mean a lifetime. There won't be a day Go's by that the family wo t be thinking "why, what happened, could I have stopped it" and also just plain missing their loved one. It's a life f***ing sentence. The bloke in the original post, I can understand how the loss of his babies would break him but f**k sake, he still had a son who has his whole life in front of him......that poor little f****r has now lost both parents and his siblings ! It's no different to saying "I can't deal with it but I expect you to deal with it" I pray that all the kids involved in the various posts on this thread have the strength that the parent didn't have and manage to live a full and happy life. They didn't get a choice! 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Almost been there s couple of times but good mates, good family and the dogs stopped me. The human mind is a very complicated thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Some off you might remember around Christmas last year I posted about my friends home burning down and he lost his wife and two kids well he hasn't been the same since and he disappeard this morning I just got told he hung himself in the park behind where he lives he was 35 he left behind one son I suppose he couldnt take it anymore makes you think about what matters I remember that post you made G.L. as I can remember thinking how tragic for your friend and the family he lost so near to Christmas. Suicide is neither brave or a cowards way out. Victims feel as if they're in a hole and it's getting deeper and darker and can't see anyone to help them. It is due to mental illness that could be there from birth or brought on by something traumatic at the time or in the past from they're childhood eg abuse. It's very hard to understand if you haven't been there and difficult to explain if you have and didn't carry it out. There is still to much stigma and denial around suicide which doesn't help especially when the "Don't be stupid/they're only attention seeking" attitude comes from family/close friends. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,539 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 sorry to hear this mate,the mind is a strange thing,i had a mate years ago had a beutifull wife 2 nice kids no money worries,he was looking after his mothers house while she was on holiday he hung him self on her landing,no one till this day can understand why he did it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,477 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 A lassy I used to work with gassed herself in her car she was scared she was going to get cancer for the second time as the signs didn't look good , but she made me the executor of her will it was no fun getting woke up from a nightshift by her brother demanding to know what was happening , and as the mother lived with her in her house scared she could be homeless . It was all sorted threw time but I cant help but think I failed her as all it would of took was to spend some time and talk her problems out .But she seemed a happy out going person but that was just a front Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 4,091 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 The minds a powerful thing can wreck a man.you d give anything to end it.no sleep.can't do anything.no time for anyone.hearts racing etc.very horrible place. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
albert64 1,882 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 so so sad, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,898 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 I was having this conversation with a lad I know last year, he suffers with depression and has in the past attempted suicide. He is a really nice lad and you can have a sensible chat with him, he was basically saying "nobody knows what it's like blah blah blah" and I said I just thought suicide was selfish in the extreme. It don't matter if you have no family but it certainly does matter if you do. See, in my eyes, with suicide you have a choice and it's quick.......the people you leave behind don't have a choice and it's a lifetime of pain.....and I mean a lifetime. There won't be a day Go's by that the family wo t be thinking "why, what happened, could I have stopped it" and also just plain missing their loved one. It's a life f***ing sentence. The bloke in the original post, I can understand how the loss of his babies would break him but f**k sake, he still had a son who has his whole life in front of him......that poor little f****r has now lost both parents and his siblings ! It's no different to saying "I can't deal with it but I expect you to deal with it" I pray that all the kids involved in the various posts on this thread have the strength that the parent didn't have and manage to live a full and happy life. They didn't get a choice! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Finn 3,012 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Some off you might remember around Christmas last year I posted about my friends home burning down and he lost his wife and two kids well he hasn't been the same since and he disappeard this morning I just got told he hung himself in the park behind where he lives he was 35 he left behind one son I suppose he couldnt take it anymore makes you think about what matters That was a terrible blow for a man to endure. I'm sorry for your loss, and my prayers to his surviving son. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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