Old Lines

[Tiercel 6,986]

There is a few Mick Douglas topics on here, do a search there is a few photos of his line of dogs and some interesting reading

Good thread this one.

 

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/54253-smithfields-norfolks-tumblers/page-2&sa=U&ved=0CBYQFjAJahUKEwj9r8y8tprJAhWFOBoKHRI2Bu8&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNEH2pkBadFcnUEFa9LFDSOqa6UcLQ

 

TC

[LOL 212]

They look nice type of animal what breeding they ?

Mick line xgreyhound x saluki xbeddlington

[LOL 212]

 

 

Remember a lad from sheffeild having one directly off M.D around 1982.

That was probably joes grandmother

I remember him breeding it to a greyhound x saluki type from the beighton area and it having a large litter of all dogs bar one bitch pup.

That right it was our dog but it was 3/4 greyhound 1/4saluki. And we had a dog out of the litter

[LOL 212]

This bitch was breed from Micks dogs. Very good bitch in here day.

Looks very mutch like my bitch in the photo

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

 

Good thread this one.

 

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/54253-smithfields-norfolks-tumblers/page-2&sa=U&ved=0CBYQFjAJahUKEwj9r8y8tprJAhWFOBoKHRI2Bu8&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNEH2pkBadFcnUEFa9LFDSOqa6UcLQ

 

TC

 

 

 

You are right there Tiercel....

 

It was a thread that interests me, big time,...and it was real nice to have a wee blather and a debate amongst like minded lads, without too much,.. girlified arguing..

Edited November 20, 2015 by Phil Lloyd

[LOL 212]

This is the dog out of MD bitch and greyhoud x saluki

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

I had a dog pup from Mick back in the early 80's I think or could have been late 70's. I was living in Lincs. at the time and didn't have a car, so thumbed it to Great Yarmouth and got a train to Berney arms, as instructed by letter from Mick. When the train pulled off I was stood on an empty platform in the middle of a steaming nowhere. If you've been there you'll know what I'm talking about.

I had directions in the letter but still got lost and spent a couple of hours walking over planks and across marsh and past windmills before finally finding the place. I was made welcome for the night and thumbed it back the next day. Mick and Maureen had named my pup Ashley as the sire (I think) was called Ashy and they'd named another of the pups Ashy too. I didn't like the name Ashley so I called mine Ashy too.

He grew into a handsome rough coated dog with high prey drive and tremendous stamina but lacked a gear for hare. Good lamp dog though and went on to catch deer once he was moved to a place where he came in contact regularly. This happened when I gave him to a friend Dave,living near Wolsingham (County Durham). Dave had had a pup from a litter I bred from Ashy and "Fruitcake", a quarter collie threequarter grey bitch I bought as a pup from Ron Hedges in Redbourne (Herts.) in the 70's. Dave liked the pup and when she was stolen, wanted me to breed another litter. I lent him the bitch instead and he bred her with Ashy. That started his line which is mentioned here in the thread here :- http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/199378-any-cumbrian-lads-on-here-with-working-lurchers/

I haven't spoken to him for a few years now so don't know if he still breeds them but they were handy daytime mooching dogs and could catch hares. He didn't lamp them.

If I get time I'll hunt out old photos of Ashy and see if I can persuade my ancient printer to scan them in. I might even have the letter somewhere.

Skycats OH, Andy, had a pup "Moss" from the first litter and bought a bitch pup direct from Mick but I don't think he has that type anymore either.

[tatsblisters 9,782]

 

 

 

Remember a lad from sheffeild having one directly off M.D around 1982.

That was probably joes grandmother

 

I remember him breeding it to a greyhound x saluki type from the beighton area and it having a large litter of all dogs bar one bitch pup.

 

That right it was our dog but it was 3/4 greyhound 1/4saluki. And we had a dog out of the litter

 

Ye thats right nero they called him if memory serves me right i have a picture of him stood with the bitch T.S had.

[LOL 212]

 

 

 

 

Remember a lad from sheffeild having one directly off M.D around 1982.

That was probably joes grandmother

I remember him breeding it to a greyhound x saluki type from the beighton area and it having a large litter of all dogs bar one bitch pup.

That right it was our dog but it was 3/4 greyhound 1/4saluki. And we had a dog out of the litter

Ye thats right nero they called him if memory serves me right i have a picture of him stood with the bitch T.S had.

Yes he was called nero died soon after of a heart attack.He was out of a dog called tige the best dog on a harei have ever see And i have see quite a few

[peterbirdman1 206]

Hi lol That bitch was breed in the Sheffield area. Around 1984 i think mate

[skycat 6,173]

Andy still talks about Mossy from time to time. Very clever bitch. Took a lot of hares through cunning, though not a hare dog as such, and she'd hunt moor hens too, following the bubbles underwater until they came up for air. He bred a couple of litters from her, and her granddaughter got killed before he was able to breed from her: he said she was his best ever lurcher. I never saw Mossy, but that last one was a really traditional type lurcher: sensible, brave enough and a surprising amount of stamina for something with either no or very little Saluki in her. Though I remember Tony Smith saying that Mick had used a Saluki type over one of his bitches at some time.

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

Mossy's mother, Fruitcake, was very good at moorhens too. She could smell them when they were underwater and would feel around with a front paw 'til she pinned them down then stick her whole head underwater to take them from under her "hand". I tried to get Ashy to do this but although he could scent well he never "got" that. He did catch a few moorhens but never that way. Once I spotted one underwater, holding onto grass I think. Stationary anyway. I got him over it but he just didn't seem to get the scent off the water surface. I ate a lot of moorhens back then but they were very common there.

Fruitcake took partridges out the air after rain, both French and greys and was also good on pheasant runners, following the blood scent at a gallop and caught ducks and coots too.

A keen hare courser, I thought she was top class at the time, busting hedges and striking keenly, but looking back she didn't really have much stamina, being burnt up after one good run or two or three short ones. Ashy had way more stamina, almost like a saluki, but not quite enough speed for the hares there. It was North lincs coursing club area and the hares were top class. Some of the pups from those two (Ashy Fruitcake) litters got the best of both and most seemed to make moochers.

[LOL 212]

Hi lol That bitch was breed in the Sheffield area. Around 1984 i think mateIF thats right mate she could be out of a litter we bread before the one joe was out of.I will find a photo of a dog out of that liter

 

[LOL 212]

 

Hi lol That bitch was breed in the Sheffield area. Around 1984 i think mateIF thats right mate she could be out of a litter we bread before the one joe was out of.I will find a photo of a dog out of that liter

This a photo of the dog

[LOL 212]

 

Hi lol That bitch was breed in the Sheffield area. Around 1984 i think mateIF thats right mate she could be out of a litter we bread before the one joe was out of.I will find a photo of a dog out of that liter

This is the bitch i kept out of same litter