Calibre Question

[sean85730 5]

This may be a little premature, but I like to know what im getting into.

 

Ive read on various sites that some .17hmr rounds get stuck up the spout, or suffer cracked casings. How common is this?

Also does .22LR suffer the same issue?

 

Sean

[meldino2005 39]

Hi sean, I have a cz455 17hmr and have yet to have one stuck or find a cracked case, im using remington rounds and have always used them for this calibre.

As for .22 lr i cant answer that as never aquired one

I personaly find the 17 a cracking round other people im sure will disagree but each to there own mate

[sean85730 5]

That puts my mind at ease, as .17HMR is what I would like to start with.

 

Sean

[meldino2005 39]

Thats what i started with along with .223 for fox even though ive had many a fox with my 17.

Ive fired 100's of rounds through it without any problem

[sean85730 5]

What range can you take a fox with .17? I'm assuming its as with an air rifle, shot placement over raw stoping power, and sensible ranges?

 

Sean

[meldino2005 39]

Very true mate, i drop them up to 100yds with ease but pushing over that i personaly wouldnt but im sure others might.

Are you in the process of applying for your fac?

[andyf 144]

Hi:

Cracked casings, well why worry that's after you've fired them and your not reloading, so it doesn't matter a jot.

Stuck rounds (bullets), I had a 17hmr for 18 months when they first came out, too many times there was NO MAIN CHARGE just the primer, it

goes phutt and squirts the bullet into the barrel an undescribed distance, as long as you know its happened it's a case of cleaning rod from

the 'sharp' end and tap out the bullet, if your ok with that sort of 'shinanagins' carry on.

22 rimfire does none of the above, is cheap to run (ie £40 for 500, not £15 for 50), the 17 is very noisy & expensive the subsonic 22 is not.

For myself the extra range gifted by the 17hmr is a bridge to far given the other issues.

17hmr not for me, but that's me, there are plenty of experienced shots who swear by them.

It's just that I'm not one of them.

AF

[foxshooter69 6]

[sean85730 5]

Hi:

Cracked casings, well why worry that's after you've fired them and your not reloading, so it doesn't matter a jot.

Stuck rounds (bullets), I had a 17hmr for 18 months when they first came out, too many times there was NO MAIN CHARGE just the primer, it

goes phutt and squirts the bullet into the barrel an undescribed distance, as long as you know its happened it's a case of cleaning rod from

the 'sharp' end and tap out the bullet, if your ok with that sort of 'shinanagins' carry on.

22 rimfire does none of the above, is cheap to run (ie £40 for 500, not £15 for 50), the 17 is very noisy & expensive the subsonic 22 is not.

For myself the extra range gifted by the 17hmr is a bridge to far given the other issues.

17hmr not for me, but that's me, there are plenty of experienced shots who swear by them.

It's just that I'm not one of them.

AF

The thing that attracts me to .17 is it doesn't tend to ricochet, my permission is mostly open grass and light scrub. I'm torn between which route to go now!

 

Sean

[SportingShooter 0]

What type of things are you hoping to shoot with your rifle when you have it, other than targets?

 

I'm guessing most of the land near you is open, very flat fenland which isn't great for most types of rifle shooting and usually needs some sort of height above the target to make it safe, so if you have the height, then a .22LR or HMR would be safe.

[sean85730 5]

Where I have permission its mostly rabbit, squirrel, rat and hare that cause issue. The land is lightly undulating on the edge of the fens backing onto the wolds with several good thick copses of trees, my thoughts were to get above my mark or to shoot into the tree line. Rats i would still tackle with my air guns. I wouldn't use a full bore rifle on a fen, the air rifles are hard enough to find safe directions to shoot

 

Ive got the paper work for my FAC and as soon as my club probation is up im finalising everything. I'm doing as much "homework" as I can so when that time comes I know exactly what I want and have reason for having and (hopefully) the process should run a lot smoother.

 

Sean

Edited November 14, 2015 by sean85730

[walshie 2,804]

I wouldn't tell your FEO you consider shooting into a treeline as a safe backstop. If that's all the backstop there is, the land won't be cleared.

[sean85730 5]

I MUST get out of air rifle brain when talking about full bore!

 

Seab

[stillair1 16]

Where I have permission its mostly rabbit, squirrel, rat and hare that cause issue. The land is lightly undulating on the edge of the fens backing onto the wolds with several good thick copses of trees, my thoughts were to get above my mark or to shoot into the tree line. Rats i would still tackle with my air guns. I wouldn't use a full bore rifle on a fen, the air rifles are hard enough to find safe directions to shoot

If you have trees about, consider the use of a portable high seat. Btw hmr do ricochet, more so as you extend the range, but not as often as .22lr.

[andyf 144]

Hi again.

Yes the 17hmr does ricochet, especially with the heavier hollow point bullets.

But the 22 rimfire, especially the subsonic do ricochet something cruel, that

slow soft lead bullet really is a rubber ball, so watch out, try to avoid long

shots at shallow angles.

AF