nans pat 2,575 Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Ok, enough is enough......let's have it right, the IRA spent 35 years ruthlessly slaughtering women, children, ordinary men just going to work......forget the so called legitimate targets. These were People from all corners of the land including their own. Jonathan Ball age 3......what did that little tot know about shit that happened 200 years ago ? Tim Parry age 12........what did that young lad have to do with pre 1916 ? What did those Irishmen going for a day's work to feed their family care about the terrible way the British government behaved in the famine ? The young women who were shot by the various paramilitary groups for simply having a boyfriend from the opposite side of the devise ? I mean Jesus Christ ?........what the f**k? It's about time a few grown men dried their f***ing eyes and stopped feeling sorry for themselves over shit that started 300 f***ing years ago. Dieing is a piece of piss, it's living that's hard and it's about time more than a few grew a set and got on with it ! 35 yrs is fxxk all wilf ..sometime killings the only way,read the history of the black n tans in the county yer living in now,..my fight for irish freedom.by dan breen..on another mans wounds..tom barry,2 of mick collins main triggermen, I have been studying the history mate, I know savage stuff happened but it's comes down to this, when does it end......for the young generation mate, not for old men, for the kids ? its some of the kids now who will take up the baton in the future thats the way its always been.there was no troubles on when we were kids it just started again and we ended up in the middle of it,....another 50yrs will sort it.imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Francie, it's like saying we should be blowing up people is Paris because of the Norman conquest......it's f***ing ludicrous mate ! Sorry, but it is. When does it stop ?......ireland is still ireland, we are all traditionally white Christians......we are all the same people !! To compare it to A load of pakis who we have nothing in common with is nonsense pal. You are a religious man, it has to stop......just lay it down and keep walking. That's what the Lord says......you know it. It makes sense, otherwise kids will be dieing well into the future for a few men's bitterness ! Again wilf, I'd invite you up here to see the divide, Ireland is not Ireland, an in willing to move on, but bloody Sunday, an the rest was only forty odd years ago, not hundreds like your comparison. An another thing, them same soldiers an ruc that did what they did, are in power still, intelligence etc, when the psni was formed, the top brass of the ruc was supposed to leave, but there were rehired an are behind the scenes, dictating to the psni, same old same old. All the cops are interested in are touts, they hate Catholics, same old, same old, you just don't understand the situation. They busted down the door of my house, three decking times in under a year, harrased an searched me in the street, pulling me over etc, an for what f**k all, cause some tout was given false information. I don't feel safe when the cops are about, send chills down your spine, they get away with there antics, an answer to nobody. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 But I'm willing to move on, but its a big feckin mess. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,010 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Francie, it's like saying we should be blowing up people is Paris because of the Norman conquest......it's f***ing ludicrous mate ! Sorry, but it is. When does it stop ?......ireland is still ireland, we are all traditionally white Christians......we are all the same people !! To compare it to A load of pakis who we have nothing in common with is nonsense pal. You are a religious man, it has to stop......just lay it down and keep walking. That's what the Lord says......you know it. It makes sense, otherwise kids will be dieing well into the future for a few men's bitterness ! Again wilf, I'd invite you up here to see the divide, Ireland is not Ireland, an in willing to move on, but bloody Sunday, an the rest was only forty odd years ago, not hundreds like your comparison. An another thing, them same soldiers an ruc that did what they did, are in power still, intelligence etc, when the psni was formed, the top brass of the ruc was supposed to leave, but there were rehired an are behind the scenes, dictating to the psni, same old same old. All the cops are interested in are touts, they hate Catholics, same old, same old, you just don't understand the situation. They busted down the door of my house, three decking times in under a year, harrased an searched me in the street, pulling me over etc, an for what f**k all, cause some tout was given false information. I don't feel safe when the cops are about, send chills down your spine, they get away with there antics, an answer to nobody. Mate I do have some knowledge of how things are because my wife is from Belfast and I have spent a lot of time there. My wife was from a loyalist area, I'm a catholic and british and I can honestly say I never had any shit from anybody !! Everyone knew I was a catholic, didn't make a blind bit of difference to any of them. My wife even converted to the catholic faith, nobody had a problem with it. This is just blokes that can't be big enough to just let things be for the better of everyone.......nothing more and nothing less. Ex RUC are in the police and the commander of the west Belfast brigade is sitting in stormont castle.......it's not good but that's how it is. Ordinary people at some point have to take responsibility for how they live their life and stop blaming this, that and the other. JMHO mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawki 1,431 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Ok, enough is enough......let's have it right, the IRA spent 35 years ruthlessly slaughtering women, children, ordinary men just going to work......forget the so called legitimate targets. These were People from all corners of the land including their own. Jonathan Ball age 3......what did that little tot know about shit that happened 200 years ago ? Tim Parry age 12........what did that young lad have to do with pre 1916 ? What did those Irishmen going for a day's work to feed their family care about the terrible way the British government behaved in the famine ? The young women who were shot by the various paramilitary groups for simply having a boyfriend from the opposite side of the devise ? I mean Jesus Christ ?........what the f**k? It's about time a few grown men dried their f***ing eyes and stopped feeling sorry for themselves over shit that started 300 f***ing years ago. Dieing is a piece of piss, it's living that's hard and it's about time more than a few grew a set and got on with it ! 35 yrs is fxxk all wilf ..sometime killings the only way,read the history of the black n tans in the county yer living in now,..my fight for irish freedom.by dan breen..on another mans wounds..tom barry,2 of mick collins main triggermen, I have been studying the history mate, I know savage stuff happened but it's comes down to this, when does it end......for the young generation mate, not for old men, for the kids ? Your right wilf I don't agree with killings on either side, the answer to your question is in my opinion it wont ever end until Ireland is given back its 6 counties, the generations of hatred will never be stomped out.... they will just be passed down, so as they say history repeats its self Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Ok, enough is enough......let's have it right, the IRA spent 35 years ruthlessly slaughtering women, children, ordinary men just going to work......forget the so called legitimate targets. These were People from all corners of the land including their own. Jonathan Ball age 3......what did that little tot know about shit that happened 200 years ago ? Tim Parry age 12........what did that young lad have to do with pre 1916 ? What did those Irishmen going for a day's work to feed their family care about the terrible way the British government behaved in the famine ? The young women who were shot by the various paramilitary groups for simply having a boyfriend from the opposite side of the devise ? I mean Jesus Christ ?........what the f**k? It's about time a few grown men dried their f***ing eyes and stopped feeling sorry for themselves over shit that started 300 f***ing years ago. Dieing is a piece of piss, it's living that's hard and it's about time more than a few grew a set and got on with it ! 35 yrs is fxxk all wilf ..sometime killings the only way,read the history of the black n tans in the county yer living in now,..my fight for irish freedom.by dan breen..on another mans wounds..tom barry,2 of mick collins main triggermen,I have been studying the history mate, I know savage stuff happened but it's comes down to this, when does it end......for the young generation mate, not for old men, for the kids ? Your right wilf I don't agree with killings on either side, the answer to your question is in my opinion it wont ever end until Ireland is given back its 6 counties, the generations of hatred will never be stomped out.... they will just be passed down, so as they say history repeats its self Spot on hawki, what's the old saying, IRELAND UNFREE SHALL NEVER BE AT PEACE 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,010 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 I am friendly with a lad who is a perspective fine fail TD, we were talking about things and he says that Ireland is a much better place with the gun out of politics and he can now see a time when it will naturally become one country again over the course of time. I think he is right. And there is a school of thought that says if someone can't stand to live in the province controlled by westminster then it is simply a question of moving a few miles over the border instead of spreading misery and death to those around you. You will buy more house for your money, things are cheaper and you get to live in an Irish run Ireland. The jocks are proud people same as the Welsh, they are not cutting about slaughtering folk......it don't make them any less of a Scotsman or a Welshman. They are as fiercely proud of who they are as any man. I don't get why anyone would want to carry on inflicting the type of death and misery on their fellow people.......Omagh was Irish men, women and children killed and maimed......not anyone else, just Irish. I'm sorry, but their is nothing to "understand" about that......it's just f***ing wrong. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,010 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Spot on hawki, what's the old saying, IRELAND UNFREE SHALL NEVER BE AT PEACE And their will never be peace all the time you have men adding fuel to the hatred and not moving on See, this is the main reason I don't go to church, Francie you are always ready to wave your bible around on the religion threads but you don't actually believe it do you ? You talk the talk about God but you don't walk the walk.......completely f***ing standard for the Catholic Church and Christian religion and it's the reason I can't stand to sit there amongst them. Turns my f***ing guts......sit in church and bang on about God in one breath and then advocate hatred all the rest of the time. Pure bollocks. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 I am friendly with a lad who is a perspective fine fail TD, we were talking about things and he says that Ireland is a much better place with the gun out of politics and he can now see a time when it will naturally become one country again over the course of time. I think he is right. And there is a school of thought that says if someone can't stand to live in the province controlled by westminster then it is simply a question of moving a few miles over the border instead of spreading misery and death to those around you. You will buy more house for your money, things are cheaper and you get to live in an Irish run Ireland. The jocks are proud people same as the Welsh, they are not cutting about slaughtering folk......it don't make them any less of a Scotsman or a Welshman. They are as fiercely proud of who they are as any man. I don't get why anyone would want to carry on inflicting the type of death and misery on their fellow people.......Omagh was Irish men, women and children killed and maimed......not anyone else, just Irish. I'm sorry, but their is nothing to "understand" about that......it's just f***ing wrong. maybe its hard for an englishman to understand wilf,the ones you talk of sitting in stormont have jacked theve no say now how things go,its a generational thing rearming recruiting ect till the spark lights again,theirs only one solution. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Spot on hawki, what's the old saying, IRELAND UNFREE SHALL NEVER BE AT PEACEAnd their will never be peace all the time you have men adding fuel to the hatred and not moving on See, this is the main reason I don't go to church, Francie you are always ready to wave your bible around on the religion threads but you don't actually believe it do you ? You talk the talk about God but you don't walk the walk.......completely f***ing standard for the Catholic Church and Christian religion and it's the reason I can't stand to sit there amongst them. Turns my f***ing guts......sit in church and bang on about God in one breath and then advocate hatred all the rest of the time. Pure bollocks. I've no hatred for anyone wilf, I don't condone violence, in merely stating the truth, some of my family are protestant, its the cops an the government that's pissing me off. You won't understand my point until you've seen first hand what are lovable cops are up to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,010 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Fair enough boys, you have lived it and I have not but I stand by what I said.....I just can't see the sense in any of it. My country has whole areas awash with Pakis and it's the same, the police and the government seem to actively help them destroy the place.....BUT.......I dont for one second ever think to myself that a 6 year old street urchin in Islamabad is a legitimate target for a nail bomb. Never crosses my mind. I alway think of that line in American History X when the bloke says "has anything you have done made YOUR life better?" That's is very true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,708 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 you know folk moan about this and that in our country ,if it really p,ses you off go live in syria .,then you got some proper grief!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Ok, enough is enough......let's have it right, the IRA spent 35 years ruthlessly slaughtering women, children, ordinary men just going to work......forget the so called legitimate targets. These were People from all corners of the land including their own. Jonathan Ball age 3......what did that little tot know about shit that happened 200 years ago ? Tim Parry age 12........what did that young lad have to do with pre 1916 ? What did those Irishmen going for a day's work to feed their family care about the terrible way the British government behaved in the famine ? The young women who were shot by the various paramilitary groups for simply having a boyfriend from the opposite side of the devise ? I mean Jesus Christ ?........what the f**k? It's about time a few grown men dried their f***ing eyes and stopped feeling sorry for themselves over shit that started 300 f***ing years ago. Dieing is a piece of piss, it's living that's hard and it's about time more than a few grew a set and got on with it ! 35 yrs is fxxk all wilf ..sometime killings the only way,read the history of the black n tans in the county yer living in now,..my fight for irish freedom.by dan breen..on another mans wounds..tom barry,2 of mick collins main triggermen,I have been studying the history mate, I know savage stuff happened but it's comes down to this, when does it end......for the young generation mate, not for old men, for the kids ? Your right wilf I don't agree with killings on either side, the answer to your question is in my opinion it wont ever end until Ireland is given back its 6 counties, the generations of hatred will never be stomped out.... they will just be passed down, so as they say history repeats its selfDoes everyone on the north want a unified Ireland They were fighting each other also Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Ok, enough is enough......let's have it right, the IRA spent 35 years ruthlessly slaughtering women, children, ordinary men just going to work......forget the so called legitimate targets. These were People from all corners of the land including their own. Jonathan Ball age 3......what did that little tot know about shit that happened 200 years ago ? Tim Parry age 12........what did that young lad have to do with pre 1916 ? What did those Irishmen going for a day's work to feed their family care about the terrible way the British government behaved in the famine ? The young women who were shot by the various paramilitary groups for simply having a boyfriend from the opposite side of the devise ? I mean Jesus Christ ?........what the f**k? It's about time a few grown men dried their f***ing eyes and stopped feeling sorry for themselves over shit that started 300 f***ing years ago. Dieing is a piece of piss, it's living that's hard and it's about time more than a few grew a set and got on with it ! 35 yrs is fxxk all wilf ..sometime killings the only way,read the history of the black n tans in the county yer living in now,..my fight for irish freedom.by dan breen..on another mans wounds..tom barry,2 of mick collins main triggermen,I have been studying the history mate, I know savage stuff happened but it's comes down to this, when does it end......for the young generation mate, not for old men, for the kids ? Your right wilf I don't agree with killings on either side, the answer to your question is in my opinion it wont ever end until Ireland is given back its 6 counties, the generations of hatred will never be stomped out.... they will just be passed down, so as they say history repeats its selfDoes everyone on the north want a unified Ireland They were fighting each other also it all come down to breeding now catholics usually have the biggest litters...the deal is 50per cent plus 1 calls it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Ok, enough is enough......let's have it right, the IRA spent 35 years ruthlessly slaughtering women, children, ordinary men just going to work......forget the so called legitimate targets. These were People from all corners of the land including their own. Jonathan Ball age 3......what did that little tot know about shit that happened 200 years ago ? Tim Parry age 12........what did that young lad have to do with pre 1916 ? What did those Irishmen going for a day's work to feed their family care about the terrible way the British government behaved in the famine ? The young women who were shot by the various paramilitary groups for simply having a boyfriend from the opposite side of the devise ? I mean Jesus Christ ?........what the f**k? It's about time a few grown men dried their f***ing eyes and stopped feeling sorry for themselves over shit that started 300 f***ing years ago. Dieing is a piece of piss, it's living that's hard and it's about time more than a few grew a set and got on with it ! 35 yrs is fxxk all wilf ..sometime killings the only way,read the history of the black n tans in the county yer living in now,..my fight for irish freedom.by dan breen..on another mans wounds..tom barry,2 of mick collins main triggermen,I have been studying the history mate, I know savage stuff happened but it's comes down to this, when does it end......for the young generation mate, not for old men, for the kids ? Your right wilf I don't agree with killings on either side, the answer to your question is in my opinion it wont ever end until Ireland is given back its 6 counties, the generations of hatred will never be stomped out.... they will just be passed down, so as they say history repeats its selfDoes everyone on the north want a unified Ireland They were fighting each other also it all come down to breeding now catholics usually have the biggest litters...the deal is 50per cent plus 1 calls it Would it then bring true peace to Ireland like some have said or just make one side happy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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