Ex Soldier Arrested

[Born Hunter 17,775]

It's about time we as a society had a long think about how we judge our servicemen! Gone are the days when we had a war cabinet and deploying forces meant killing. We seem to expect these men we employ as killers (let's not sugar coat it) to behave as police in war zones! And then we judge them as cold blooded murderers when they respond with violence in these war zones!

 

Very soon we'll have armed services manned by security guard and traffic warden types and when we actually need a true British vanguard to fight an evil enemy we'll be f****d!

 

f**k serving a country so willing to judge you and burn you!

 

It ain't right to judge soldiers with the same standards as civies. I'm not saying murder is acceptable and I'm not going to comment on the effects of dragging this history up. Simply, I'm seeing a sickening trend of treating conflict like a common domestic fight and soldiers like civies. It's wrong.

[Lenmcharristar 9,802]

It's about time we as a society had a long think about how we judge our servicemen! Gone are the days when we had a war cabinet and deploying forces meant killing. We seem to expect these men we employ as killers (let's not sugar coat it) to behave as police in war zones! And then we judge them as cold blooded murderers when they respond with violence in these war zones!

 

Very soon we'll have armed services manned by security guard and traffic warden types and when we actually need a true British vanguard to fight an evil enemy we'll be f****d!

 

f**k serving a country so willing to judge you and burn you!

 

It ain't right to judge soldiers with the same standards as civies. I'm not saying murder is acceptable and I'm not going to comment on the effects of dragging this history up. Simply, I'm seeing a sickening trend of treating conflict like a common domestic fight and soldiers like civies. It's wrong.

spot on, how long before our armed forces say fcuk this country im no longer defending the place so against me.

[Francie 6,368]

I see your point socks, but there were not being shot at, its all there in the inquiry, it was a civil rights march.

 

An the soldiers charged the crowd an opened fire, the soldiers hated the Catholics, they knew what they were at, it was the paratroopers, not just any old soldier.

[Francie 6,368]

 

 

Len your missing the point mate, I don't think your making a distinction between the Irish innocent civilians an the ira,

Do you not think he should be prosecuted, an why? That's to all the people backing the soldier.

because if the ira backed by sinn feinn want to keep dragging up the past and wasting millions on it, to get justice for victims of the mod then surely they are prepared to lay all their cards on the table and tell every one of their unsolved hits against innocent protestants and innocent catholics alike???????????? mon francie has to be all or nothing

It's an sinn from have nothing to do with the investigation into the murders, its the victims family's that have filed a lawsuit.

[socks 32,253]

I see your point socks, but there were not being shot at, its all there in the inquiry, it was a civil rights march.

An the soldiers charged the crowd an opened fire, the soldiers hated the Catholics, they knew what they were at, it was the paratroopers, not just any old soldier.

Mate it was a riot there is far to much going on at once to take it all in ... I was at drumcree so I know all about riots lol .... The paras were given ORDERS to push into the bog side they were then given ORDERS and PERMISSION to use live rounds ... So why is a run of the mill soldier up on a murder charge but the officers who issued the orders are not .......

[bird 9,926]

Have we taken every German pilot who droped bombs on our country who killed jo public to court !!!!

spot on, they were under attack there were just doing there job. lets have scum who murdered the 2 undercover soldiers boxed in by taxis at that IRA funeral . .no they wont do that so FOOK'UM there lucky them didnt shoot more that day

[socks 32,253]

 

Have we taken every German pilot who droped bombs on our country who killed jo public to court !!!!

 

spot on, they were under attack there were just doing there job. lets have scum who murdered the 2 undercover soldiers boxed in by taxis at that IRA funeral . .no they wont do that so FOOK'UM there lucky them didnt shoot more that day

Alex Murphy and Harry McGuire were both given life sentences for the corporals murders Ray .......

[bird 9,926]

 

 

Have we taken every German pilot who droped bombs on our country who killed jo public to court !!!!

spot on, they were under attack there were just doing there job. lets have scum who murdered the 2 undercover soldiers boxed in by taxis at that IRA funeral . .no they wont do that so FOOK'UM there lucky them didnt shoot more that day

Alex Murphy and Harry McGuire were both given life sentences for the corporals murders Ray .......

 

ok ken , fair enough, i didnt know that but what happened with paras back then they were under attack , what did they want them to do control vicous mob what did want r/ bats . there soldiers and they use guns its part of there job,

[Francie 6,368]

 

I see your point socks, but there were not being shot at, its all there in the inquiry, it was a civil rights march.

An the soldiers charged the crowd an opened fire, the soldiers hated the Catholics, they knew what they were at, it was the paratroopers, not just any old soldier.

Mate it was a riot there is far to much going on at once to take it all in ... I was at drumcree so I know all about riots lol .... The paras were given ORDERS to push into the bog side they were then given ORDERS and PERMISSION to use live rounds ... So why is a run of the mill soldier up on a murder charge but the officers who issued the orders are not .......

I'm 2 mins from the bogside socks, the officers that gave the orders are to blame aswell, the soldiers even shot people with white hankercheifs, while trying to save the the wounded lying in front of them.

[charlie caller 3,654]

 

 

How is fourteen unarmed civilians the enemy

That's what I'd like to know pete

 

and how many unarmed enemy were killed by the other side during the troubles?

 

Too fuc*ing right, or does that not count?

[Brewman 1,192]

The Bloody Sunday enquiry cost over £230,000,000 from start to finish. That does not include the at least £10,000,000 that has been estimated that the police and prosecution case will cost. For example how many children's lives could that have saved in hospital etc?

 

I know lives were lost and some of them were quite young, tragic as it was where and when does the line get drawn?

 

I know people from both sides who have lost family and friends but they have gotten on with their lives and lived for the present as opposed to the dragging up of the past to the extent of it taking over their lives. I've not been in that situation so I'm not judging any one but something has to give?

[WILF 46,965]

I see your point socks, but there were not being shot at, its all there in the inquiry, it was a civil rights march.

An the soldiers charged the crowd an opened fire, the soldiers hated the Catholics, they knew what they were at, it was the paratroopers, not just any old soldier.

I am sorry Francie but I have to pull you up on that, in Britain we don't even consider the religion of other white people be they English, Irish, Scottish or Welsh.......we just don't.

 

I would bet a decent few quid that the fact they were catholic never even crossed those young lads minds.

 

It's only in Northern Ireland that anyone takes a blind bit of notice, it's certainly the only place I have ever experienced it.

My wifes granny used to introduce me to folk and add "he's catholic but he is very nice" lol lol.......and she was being serious ! Lol

I can't speak for the republic because every f****r is a catholic but I have certainly not had any anti English experience.

 

But as I say, in Britain we don't even consider another British or Irish lads religion.

[nans pat 2,575]

another 1 aressted for murder of handicap man in tyrone there,must be a softener for these talks there having,

[Francie 6,368]

 

 

Have we taken every German pilot who droped bombs on our country who killed jo public to court !!!!

spot on, they were under attack there were just doing there job. lets have scum who murdered the 2 undercover soldiers boxed in by taxis at that IRA funeral . .no they wont do that so FOOK'UM there lucky them didnt shoot more that day

What did the civilians do on you ray, why would you wanted more dead?

[lanesra 3,994]

Crazy this being dragged up , I haven't heard the people off Birmingham who's innocent family members where blown to bits on a night out demanding those responsible be rounded up & if they did do you believe for 1 second those in power would allow it . . Not a chance as it would damage the peace process , but it's ok too lift a man who at the time off that horrific day was under severe pressure acting on orders from those who will be sat behind a protective arm off the government . . Large gins all round !!