New Gassing Course

[myersbg 1,385]

I would use traditional methods all the time if i could, every Rat and Mouse job i go too i first look and see if i can do the job with traps, sometimes it is just not practical to do the job with traps, once traps are down i want to check them every day, most customers are not willing to pay for me to turn up every day and check traps, and leaving the trap check to the customer does not work all the time { talking from experience }.

When this is your livelihood you have to look at the most viable { and humane } way to do the job, Gassing is a lot more humane than some methods of rodent control, just take a look at glue boards they are the cruelest form of rodent control there is and any Tom Dick or Harry can go and buy them, at least with the new regs on aluminium phosphate only trained people will be able to use it.

 

Brian

[earth-thrower 493]

I would use traditional methods all the time if i could, every Rat and Mouse job i go too i first look and see if i can do the job with traps, sometimes it is just not practical to do the job with traps, once traps are down i want to check them every day, most customers are not willing to pay for me to turn up every day and check traps, and leaving the trap check to the customer does not work all the time { talking from experience }.

When this is your livelihood you have to look at the most viable { and humane } way to do the job, Gassing is a lot more humane than some methods of rodent control, just take a look at glue boards they are the cruelest form of rodent control there is and any Tom Dick or Harry can go and buy them, at least with the new regs on aluminium phosphate only trained people will be able to use it.

 

Brian

 

I would use traditional methods all the time if i could, every Rat and Mouse job i go too i first look and see if i can do the job with traps, sometimes it is just not practical to do the job with traps, once traps are down i want to check them every day, most customers are not willing to pay for me to turn up every day and check traps, and leaving the trap check to the customer does not work all the time { talking from experience }.

When this is your livelihood you have to look at the most viable { and humane } way to do the job, Gassing is a lot more humane than some methods of rodent control, just take a look at glue boards they are the cruelest form of rodent control there is and any Tom Dick or Harry can go and buy them, at least with the new regs on aluminium phosphate only trained people will be able to use it.

 

Brian

Im aware what you mean, about rat & mouse control ?,...& i suppose you could say 'poisons' a tradition, for these pests too ? lol,.....but im afraid, i wouldnt say the "gas" is "humane" ? I thought i read somewhere , that it could well be more difficult in future, for some poisons/rodenticides, to still be available, for the 'pest control' industry ?,....some will be 'withdrawn/unsupported', etc,.......as they come up for review ? (dont know enough about it, though lol) I also hope these new rules, stop the untrained 'farmers' from aquiring the 'ali phosphide' ?,...cause i know a number of them, who got it fairly easily ,....lol (although most where useless, with it !,...ha ha)

Edited January 15, 2016 by earth-thrower

[Rowan 308]

 

I would use traditional methods all the time if i could, every Rat and Mouse job i go too i first look and see if i can do the job with traps, sometimes it is just not practical to do the job with traps, once traps are down i want to check them every day, most customers are not willing to pay for me to turn up every day and check traps, and leaving the trap check to the customer does not work all the time { talking from experience }.

When this is your livelihood you have to look at the most viable { and humane } way to do the job, Gassing is a lot more humane than some methods of rodent control, just take a look at glue boards they are the cruelest form of rodent control there is and any Tom Dick or Harry can go and buy them, at least with the new regs on aluminium phosphate only trained people will be able to use it.

 

Brian

 

I would use traditional methods all the time if i could, every Rat and Mouse job i go too i first look and see if i can do the job with traps, sometimes it is just not practical to do the job with traps, once traps are down i want to check them every day, most customers are not willing to pay for me to turn up every day and check traps, and leaving the trap check to the customer does not work all the time { talking from experience }.

When this is your livelihood you have to look at the most viable { and humane } way to do the job, Gassing is a lot more humane than some methods of rodent control, just take a look at glue boards they are the cruelest form of rodent control there is and any Tom Dick or Harry can go and buy them, at least with the new regs on aluminium phosphate only trained people will be able to use it.

 

Brian

Im aware what you mean, about rat & mouse control ?,...& i suppose you could say 'poisons' a tradition, for these pests too ? lol,.....but im afraid, i wouldnt say the "gas" is "humane" ? I thought i read somewhere , that it could well be more difficult in future, for some poisons/rodenticides, to still be available, for the 'pest control' industry ?,....some will be 'withdrawn/unsupported', etc,.......as they come up for review ? (dont know enough about it, though lol) I also hope these new rules, stop the untrained 'farmers' from aquiring the 'ali phosphide' ?,...cause i know a number of them, who got it fairly easily ,....lol (although most where useless, with it !,...ha ha)

 

 

 

 

 

Dear owld farmers , well they must be trained to buy it now. . I had one farmer say he had got one of his workers trained to use Phostoxin and talunex plus they had done a 1 day , use of rodenticide course .

In his mind he thought that that guy could order it and then they could all carry on using gas and bait , he seamed shocked when I told him the courses meant it could only be the one person who went who could use it . . Unlucky for him he sent someone from the farm office you never ventures outside . .

[myersbg 1,385]

I did the course on Monday, and have the assessment tomorrow and i am not looking forward to it, it is a lot harder than any of us on the course thought it would be, one thing for certain is most of the farmers i know will not be up to sitting the course and if i pass it will hopefully up the work load a bit.

I will let you all know how i get on.

 

cheers

 

Brian

[myersbg 1,385]

WELL, I passed, the assessor makes you feel at ease and talks you through the assessment you dont even realize that you are answering his questions some of the time,

i dont know if they are all like this but he made it feel like the task wasn't that hard.

It works out expensive by the time you have bought all the gear, Phostoxin applicator £108, new filters for full face mask £35 [ i already have a mask], Chem lock transport box [for carrying flasks ], £200+, gloves, type 5/6 coveralls which i already had,

The course costs on top of this and a day and a half off work, so you need to have a serious think, before you book to go on a course.

 

Brian

[earth-thrower 493]

I did the course on Monday, and have the assessment tomorrow and i am not looking forward to it, it is a lot harder than any of us on the course thought it would be, one thing for certain is most of the farmers i know will not be up to sitting the course and if i pass it will hopefully up the work load a bit.

I will let you all know how i get on.

 

cheers

 

Brian

lol,... (comment regarding farmers !) "it will hopefully up the work load a bit" ?,...only, if the majority of your clients, dont know any better !,....lol

[earth-thrower 493]

WELL, I passed, the assessor makes you feel at ease and talks you through the assessment you dont even realize that you are answering his questions some of the time,

i dont know if they are all like this but he made it feel like the task wasn't that hard.

It works out expensive by the time you have bought all the gear, Phostoxin applicator £108, new filters for full face mask £35 [ i already have a mask], Chem lock transport box [for carrying flasks ], £200+, gloves, type 5/6 coveralls which i already had,

The course costs on top of this and a day and a half off work, so you need to have a serious think, before you book to go on a course.

 

Brian

Fair bit of expense, mate ?,...& how 'cost effective' will it be (gassing), compared to the use of approved kill-traps,for moles (for example ?). When giving your customers, the choice ?

Edited January 21, 2016 by earth-thrower

[unclepesta 101]

well done on the ticket just do some extra safty checks and work safe. extra learning off your own back is always good and wise so many fail because all they had was a ticket and little or no knowledge of there product or enviroment.

 

i ask anyone to consider the other life that is killed when using gas on moles you are fumigating the lawn. realise this and you will feel like cyril sneer,for that one mole millions will die

 

get that trap out and leave the innocent

[unclepesta 101]

i think brian will do alright with the rabbits and rats if he has the calling and the jobs.

[Rowan 308]

 

WELL, I passed, the assessor makes you feel at ease and talks you through the assessment you dont even realize that you are answering his questions some of the time,

i dont know if they are all like this but he made it feel like the task wasn't that hard.

It works out expensive by the time you have bought all the gear, Phostoxin applicator £108, new filters for full face mask £35 [ i already have a mask], Chem lock transport box [for carrying flasks ], £200+, gloves, type 5/6 coveralls which i already had,

The course costs on top of this and a day and a half off work, so you need to have a serious think, before you book to go on a course.

 

Brian

Fair bit of expense, mate ?,...& how 'cost effective' will it be (gassing), compared to the use of approved kill-traps,for moles (for example ?). When giving your customers, the choice ?

 

 

 

Don't use a chemlock case , I use a ammunition box that was used for baton rounds by the military , the C&G assessor recommended one of these to me , £30 instead of £200,,, .

[Rowan 308]

I've found since I did the course last year that more work is coming in for this as less people are able to buy/use it , BUT I do live in a very agricultural area , next job this Wednesday , if the weather lets me.

[earth-thrower 493]

i think brian will do alright with the rabbits and rats if he has the calling and the jobs.

I wouldnt know, regarding its use for rabbits & rats, but heard it depends on the extent of rabbit numbers / workings, terrain, cover, etc, as regards its effectiveness ?,....(what a waste of bunnies, though ? lol ) I know one thing ,....its no fun at all, working with the stuff,....lol

[Deker 3,478]

 

WELL, I passed, the assessor makes you feel at ease and talks you through the assessment you dont even realize that you are answering his questions some of the time,

i dont know if they are all like this but he made it feel like the task wasn't that hard.

It works out expensive by the time you have bought all the gear, Phostoxin applicator £108, new filters for full face mask £35 [ i already have a mask], Chem lock transport box [for carrying flasks ], £200+, gloves, type 5/6 coveralls which i already had,

The course costs on top of this and a day and a half off work, so you need to have a serious think, before you book to go on a course.

 

Brian

Fair bit of expense, mate ?,...& how 'cost effective' will it be (gassing), compared to the use of approved kill-traps,for moles (for example ?). When giving your customers, the choice ?

 

 

There is no answer to that as each job is different. I very rarely have to resort to gas, but it is useful to have it as an option. I can't remember a situation I ever used it because it was cheaper, I use it when it is the best option for the job.

 

Still a pain!

[earth-thrower 493]

 

 

WELL, I passed, the assessor makes you feel at ease and talks you through the assessment you dont even realize that you are answering his questions some of the time,

i dont know if they are all like this but he made it feel like the task wasn't that hard.

It works out expensive by the time you have bought all the gear, Phostoxin applicator £108, new filters for full face mask £35 [ i already have a mask], Chem lock transport box [for carrying flasks ], £200+, gloves, type 5/6 coveralls which i already had,

The course costs on top of this and a day and a half off work, so you need to have a serious think, before you book to go on a course.

 

Brian

Fair bit of expense, mate ?,...& how 'cost effective' will it be (gassing), compared to the use of approved kill-traps,for moles (for example ?). When giving your customers, the choice ?

 

 

There is no answer to that as each job is different. I very rarely have to resort to gas, but it is useful to have it as an option. I can't remember a situation I ever used it because it was cheaper, I use it when it is the best option for the job.

 

Still a pain!

 

" i use it when it is the best option for the job ",....well, that must be rare, then ?,...lol (moles),.....I take it, your getting out of the office more, now,...& joining your techs ?,....ha ha ( sorry mate ,....im messing again ! )

[ratattack 111]

A complete waste of time for the majority of folks that have done the course, most don't use the qualification. Best part of a grand before you even use it by the time you count time off and all the other gubbins you need! Plus it only lasts a couple of years! My boss did it in a panic 2 yes ago and has never used gas again! Needless to say he won't be doing it again once it runs out!

 

Not many jobs more than 10M from a building or watercourse unless you are out in the fields on agricultural jobs.