Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 To be totally honest after having a think about it, I think I'd rather source a real lean athletic pit bull lol Good idea that. Can't believe it's never been tried ? 2 Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Should imagine with a SKILLED breeder something of a decent sort could be produced all crosses show variety in siblings. Just because it's unheard of doesn't mean it wouldn't work. But the bits you want to keep from a patterdale are the bits you can't see so work would be the key. Where would we be if someone hadn't have tried Saluki or bull or what ever. Just not a project I'd want to take on. Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) To be totally honest after having a think about it, I think I'd rather source a real lean athletic pit bull lolGood idea that. Can't believe it's never been tried ?i didn't suggest it like its never been done before?I'm supprised you haven't fancied one yet .. Edited November 7, 2015 by Somewhereyournot Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 To be totally honest after having a think about it, I think I'd rather source a real lean athletic pit bull lolGood idea that. Can't believe it's never been tried ?i didn't suggest it like its never been done before?I'm supprised you haven't fancied one yet .. Good game fella. Good game. 1 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 To be totally honest after having a think about it, I think I'd rather source a real lean athletic pit bull lolGood idea that. Can't believe it's never been tried i didn't suggest it like its never been done before?I'm supprised you haven't fancied one yet .. This is the thing, sourcing a bull that is working. There is a lot of patterdales that are seeing plenty of graft, which are more accessible. There is a member on this forum and his patt is as game as they come and we have said that there would be some pups by him to a greyhound. Why would anyone want to source a working bull though? When there are plenty of the end product already available to be bred from? Ie bull/greyhounds. Is there a genetic reason why we can't breed lurcher to lurcher and we need to keep going back to pure terriers and pure collies etc? Quote Link to post
jake824 517 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Never seen or heard of one. What would it bring to the table what we don't already have available in lurchers? Apart from mixed litters? Lol. drive determination coat fearlessness trainabilityIs that not already available then fella? Beddy crosses? Wheaten crosses? Collie/bull types? Plenty of coat, drive and determination there. Trainability is a bullshit word made up by fools on the internet. All dogs are trainable. If you mean willingness to learn then I wouldn't have Patterdale at the top of the list. But that's just me. im no fool on the internet fella. Show me a beddy or collie with as much drive as a pat. all my terriers are trainable sorry biddable to a fault and are used regularly and are well tested. I think a certain line of pat would bring a hell of a lot to the table. 2 Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 I just think there's plenty of crosses out there killing foxes anyway to start experimenting with somethin that will dramatically down size the dogs, and then this would hinder the dog doing a job IMO. Gaz got a good point, is there a reason people are always looking for a miracle first x when you can breed lurcher x lurcher of specific build rtc Quote Link to post
torchey 1,301 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Talking about this the other week with a mate , hes got a pat bushing dog and its a cracker the work rate and stamina is tiring to watch i got a bitch here excactly the same theyre fecking machines Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,156 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 You've a million times more chance of getting a working Patt then a Bull,Wheaton,Irish or Bedlington and that's a FACT!! We have some Patts,fearless,granite,mute,no reverse EVER and great amongst kids and other dogs unlike one or two of the aforementioned.. 12 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,076 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 There's only one answer to all this do it and see 3 Quote Link to post
jake824 517 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 You've a million times more chance of getting a working Patt then a Bull,Wheaton,Irish or Bedlington and that's a FACT!! We have some Patts,fearless,granite,mute,no reverse EVER and great amongst kids and other dogs unlike one or two of the aforementioned..a man who knows terriers ? 1 Quote Link to post
nans pat 2,575 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 seen 2 litter sister 1/4,irish terrier.3/4 grey,fxxk they could kill hares bit of terrier brings good mouth usually,ive 1 on at the minute beddy.x grey.x saluki lurcher 10 mths doing well,so far, Quote Link to post
King. 215 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 If someone did have a good greyhound and X to a cracking patterdale. Ran the litter on a bit and choose 1 of the tallest pups if it did carry all the traits of the patterdale no reverse gear and the pup proved itself. Then X it back over a pure greyhound obviously giving 1/4 3/4 and repeated choosing a tall pup and running it on if the dogs turned out OK at there job I think it would be great many years to come running your own line were you know what's in the pups makeup etc. That would be my plan anyway trying to get plenty of leg under the line. Quote Link to post
jake824 517 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 If someone did have a good greyhound and X to a cracking patterdale. Ran the litter on a bit and choose 1 of the tallest pups if it did carry all the traits of the patterdale no reverse gear and the pup proved itself. Then X it back over a pure greyhound obviously giving 1/4 3/4 and repeated choosing a tall pup and running it on if the dogs turned out OK at there job I think it would be great many years to come running your own line were you know what's in the pups makeup etc. That would be my plan anyway trying to get plenty of leg under the line.i understand what ur saying . But 2 half bred 23 inch bull greyhounds will throw big leggy stuff bearing in mind the pit side was nt much bigger than a good sized patt . So it would nt be to much of a problem to keep them up on the leg with the right dogs selected Quote Link to post
King. 215 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 You are right enough mate the pat would add some nice blood to a lurcher. Finding a dead game apbt would be a lot harder than finding a proven pat. Unless you knew boys working apbt proper. 1 Quote Link to post
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