desertbred 5,490 Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Asad and his Father before him controlled Syria for over 40 years without bombing their own cities until western policy to remove the regime came into being, and they armed terror groups when Sadam was removed in Iraq it left a full country for Daesh to establish itself The same with Lybia post Gadafi is now a staging post for refugees to get to Europe the vast majority being economic migrants as can seen by the majority being late teens early twenties males many educated and wealthy enough to pay the people traffickers. Edited November 5, 2015 by desertbred 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 If you don't want a reply stop being a c**t your self ya boring fooker. Stop trying to be a clever kununt max as you are not. Stay on your dreamland thread will you and stop messin it up for others. Thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted November 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Mate these people wete being interviewed some wanted to go to Germany another wanted to be in Sweden with hes wife and children. These people have numbers on thete back and are being treated like prisoners of war. By our government in our rafbase. Now thats fcuckin barbaric. Let these poor innocent people leave and go where they want to go. Some have been kept there for 17 fcukin years for christ sake. These are innocent human beings and the so called British government are keeping them there under their will. If you think that is fine then thats ip to you. I just hope im not trapped in a situation with you at my side. Because with those thoughts you would be the first one I eat. Well they chose to come here,I agree we shouldn't keep them in Europe,as soon as they enter our waters there should be 2 options. 1) turn around and keep going. 2) get blown out of the water. That would in fact probably save lives,putting traffickers out of business. With your lack of instinct toward self preservation I doubt you could survive long in any 'situation'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Mate these people wete being interviewed some wanted to go to Germany another wanted to be in Sweden with hes wife and children. These people have numbers on thete back and are being treated like prisoners of war. By our government in our rafbase. Now thats fcuckin barbaric. Let these poor innocent people leave and go where they want to go. Some have been kept there for 17 fcukin years for christ sake. These are innocent human beings and the so called British government are keeping them there under their will. If you think that is fine then thats ip to you. I just hope im not trapped in a situation with you at my side. Because with those thoughts you would be the first one I eat. Well they chose to come here,I agree we shouldn't keep them in Europe,as soon as they enter our waters there should be 2 options. 1) turn around and keep going. 2) get blown out of the water. That would in fact probably save lives,putting traffickers out of business. With your lack of instinct toward self preservation I doubt you could survive long in any 'situation'. Lol I know I would survive though. My argument is The needless suffering to the innocent mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bob.243 9,005 Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted November 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Mate these people wete being interviewed some wanted to go to Germany another wanted to be in Sweden with hes wife and children. These people have numbers on thete back and are being treated like prisoners of war. By our government in our rafbase. Now thats fcuckin barbaric. Let these poor innocent people leave and go where they want to go. Some have been kept there for 17 fcukin years for christ sake. These are innocent human beings and the so called British government are keeping them there under their will. If you think that is fine then thats ip to you. I just hope im not trapped in a situation with you at my side. Because with those thoughts you would be the first one I eat. Well they chose to come here,I agree we shouldn't keep them in Europe,as soon as they enter our waters there should be 2 options. 1) turn around and keep going. 2) get blown out of the water. That would in fact probably save lives,putting traffickers out of business. With your lack of instinct toward self preservation I doubt you could survive long in any 'situation'. Lol I know I would survive though. My argument is The needless suffering to the innocent mate. Better them than us. Though if their countries weren't interfered with so much by the west they'd sooner or later find a system that works for them. I'd say they found that a long time ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Your intentions are honourable tuffty, but unfortunately unrealistic imo. It would be great to save the world but at some point you will have to draw a line or be swallowed up and lose your identity altogether. I believe that line should have been drawn a long time ago and now your identity will probably be swallowed up and turn into a place similar to where these people are fleeing. Do you know how many misplaced people there are in the world? Are you going to save them all by letting them into the UK? Or do you only want to help these Syrians and the rest of world's innocent victims of war have to sort things out for themselves? Isn't that discrimination. I respect your noble heart but your naivety is bordering on imbecile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Ah I didn't say about letting them all in the uk did I now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 How would you choose then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 All im talking about is the inoccence of war. Distributed among the world until they can go back to there homeland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 And, just curiously, what do you think should be done with the refugees who are taken in and commit crimes? As there is no doubt there will be a percentage who show their appreciation by breaking the laws in their safe and charitable new land. Would you be so noble if you or your loved ones are victims. I am genuinely interested in your reply. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Is anyone in power ever going to say "We're full"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 And, just curiously, what do you think should be done with the refugees who are taken in and commit crimes? As there is no doubt there will be a percentage who show their appreciation by breaking the laws in their safe and charitable new land. Would you be so noble if you or your loved ones are victims. I am genuinely interested in your reply. Don't take the piss ss We the world are in a bad bad way because of dictatorship. We are all human no matter what colours we are. If you like the idea of thousands and thousands of inoccent women and children slaughtered then thats up to you. But somehow I find that hard to grasp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 I am not REALLY taking the piss,a little maybe, but not much. I never mentioned colour and I %100 agree colour should not be an issue, but culture should be protected imo. As I said I think a line should have been drawn a long time ago and it is clear to see by anyone with an open mind that the culture in uk has been affected enough already and is only going to be affected more. Charity is a good thing but not at any price and inevitably there will be a point the UK will not be able to provide any more charity and the same problems will be in many parts of the world. I feel no joy in ANYBODY suffering except maybe the lowest of low criminals, let alone innocent people. I am beginning to think you are not a noble heart but a bleeding heart as all your replies rely on emotive nonsense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Emotive nonsense. Lol Righto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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