Hard Mouth On A Dog.

[NEWKID 27,211]

Thank god were not all the same my smallest dog takes its time sometimes bringing me the rabbit back that maybe her size but she has a great habit of skinning them and preparing for the pot with carrots and onions but she does forget the ceraly from time to times so she's not a lurcher and shows no quality of ever being one no wonder the collie cross owners have no esteem on us terrier cross owners

 

My little dog aint the best retriever, not particularly hard mouthed though ( I also think it's her size which puts off carrying too far, at least thats my excuse lol)..

I'd probably rather a hard mouthed retriever than no retrieve at all though... We catch hundreds of rabbits every year in the nets when ferreting for the pot/sale/mates etc, so as long as the dogs put a few in the bag on a night out I'm not bothered if they're bruised at all, the ferrets and dogs never complain lol

 

Had the pup on the fields earlier today retrieving a toy, so far so good... hope it'll be the same with a live rabbit, bruised or not lol

[stormyboy 1,352]

And the topic is about hard mouthed... Not tagging the shit out of the rabbit .

 

What does that mean?

[Ideation 8,216]

Well we started discussing hard mouthed dogs and now we are talking about dogs that smash the shit out of a rabbit and leave it out in the field!

[nothernlite 18,089]

Great stuff new kid my we pups the same mate my we dog hits them hard because shes suicidle but still edible don't mind a we bruise on the ribs

[Guest Navek]

And the topic is about hard mouthed... Not tagging the shit out of the rabbit .

 

What does that mean?

iPhone auto spelling ..meant say ragging not tagging

[stormyboy 1,352]

Thats what hard mouthed means surely? Most dogs will lightly bruise some rabbits at some time, as has been said it's unavoidable picking them up at speed. A dog that rags excessively once caught is hard mouthed.

 

So what is the definition of 'hard mouthed?'

Edited November 3, 2015 by stormyboy

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Thats what hard mouthed means surely? Most dogs will lightly bruise some rabbits at some time, as has been said it's unavoidable picking them up at speed. A dog that rags excessively once caught is hard mouthed.

A dog can be hard mouthed without "ragging excessively".

 

I wouldn't want a dog to "rag excessively". But I don't give a toss it it's hard mouthed or not.

[stormyboy 1,352]

If a dog bruises rabbits more than neccesary,its ragging excessively!!

[Somewhereyournot 1,117]

Ragging something is shaking it in my books, and hard mouthed is crunching it, rather a dog shake it that crunch it....

I'm very surprised at the answers on this post, really am..

[Somewhereyournot 1,117]

Gaz just out curiosity, you travel as bit, out some effort into dogs, what you gonna do when you travel for big bags when you got xx amount of bunnies that are full a burst stomachs and shit bags? Odd one is fair enough for dog and stinker food but what happens when hard mouthed dogs start getting big bags?

...soft mouthed trait will start rising to the top of the 20 before it I reckon...lol

[Guest Navek]

nice them mate,we all know who to pm for some cheap nice quality coloureds next year all the best with them .

Thats what hard mouthed means surely? Most dogs will lightly bruise some rabbits at some time, as has been said it's unavoidable picking them up at speed. A dog that rags excessively once caught is hard mouthed. So what is the definition of 'hard mouthed?'

The original topic stated live to hand !! I assume the op means ....Anything not brought back alive is due to the dog been hard mouthed ..hard mouthed to me means that when a dog strikes at the rabbit he does so snapping closed his mouth as hard as he can to secure the capture of the rabbit...a dog catching a rabbit then proceeding to crunch the rabbit from head to toe once caught securely makes it ....a pain in the are (dick head dog) lol...but nothing to do with lack of trained no or..poorly trained Lurcher...or like some people are stating " the reason Lurcher men are held in low asteam ......some dogs are hard mouthed and no amount of training will change that..unless you read some the old bullshit filled books were they wrapp barbewire in rabbit skins

[stormyboy 1,352]

The original post asked how many tolerate a hard mouthed dog bud. A hard mouthed dog is one that excessively bruises rabbits-crunching,shaking,live or dead to hand or dropped in the middle of the field. If its badly bruised the dog is hard mouthed, simple as that.

[Tiercel 6,986]

 

nice them mate,we all know who to pm for some cheap nice quality coloureds next year all the best with them .

Thats what hard mouthed means surely? Most dogs will lightly bruise some rabbits at some time, as has been said it's unavoidable picking them up at speed. A dog that rags excessively once caught is hard mouthed. So what is the definition of 'hard mouthed?'

The original topic stated live to hand !! I assume the op means ....Anything not brought back alive is due to the dog been hard mouthed ..hard mouthed to me means that when a dog strikes at the rabbit he does so snapping closed his mouth as hard as he can to secure the capture of the rabbit...a dog catching a rabbit then proceeding to crunch the rabbit from head to toe once caught securely makes it ....a pain in the are (dick head dog) lol...but nothing to do with lack of trained no or..poorly trained Lurcher...or like some people are stating " the reason Lurcher men are held in low asteam ......some dogs are hard mouthed and no amount of training will change that..unless you read some the old bullshit filled books were they wrapp barbewire in rabbit skins

 

I actually agree with you post above some dogs are crunchers. But, some (not all by any means) are made that way by the lack of training that the dog received at an early age. How many times do you see posts on here my six / nine, month old pup caught it's first rabbit, then people jump on them telling them the dog is just too young?

 

If you get the basics into a pup, and it is quite a list could make 20 things, gates, water, fences, retrieving to be honest the list is a long one. Get those into place before you let the dog chase and usually (not always by any means) hard mouth does not come into it. To my mind the most important is retrieving, as Bird stated earlier a dog that just catches it's rabbit and instantly starts it's return is less likely to be hard mouthed on the rabbits.

 

I will admit it is not an exact science, but you can with a little thought and quite a bit of work reduce the chances of the dog being hard mouthed. Years ago a mate had a pure show whippet, that was mustard on the lamp, she was a small bitch and often had trouble lifting large winter rabbits. those that she did catch were invariably crunched, and she would retrieve to hand. Yet in the Autumn the younger smaller rabbits would all be alive. So size and the stick a rabbit gives a dog can and in my mind does play a part in a dog being hard mouthed.

 

TC

 

TC

[NEWKID 27,211]

 

 

nice them mate,we all know who to pm for some cheap nice quality coloureds next year all the best with them .

Thats what hard mouthed means surely? Most dogs will lightly bruise some rabbits at some time, as has been said it's unavoidable picking them up at speed. A dog that rags excessively once caught is hard mouthed. So what is the definition of 'hard mouthed?'

The original topic stated live to hand !! I assume the op means ....Anything not brought back alive is due to the dog been hard mouthed ..hard mouthed to me means that when a dog strikes at the rabbit he does so snapping closed his mouth as hard as he can to secure the capture of the rabbit...a dog catching a rabbit then proceeding to crunch the rabbit from head to toe once caught securely makes it ....a pain in the are (dick head dog) lol...but nothing to do with lack of trained no or..poorly trained Lurcher...or like some people are stating " the reason Lurcher men are held in low asteam ......some dogs are hard mouthed and no amount of training will change that..unless you read some the old bullshit filled books were they wrapp barbewire in rabbit skins

 

I actually agree with you post above some dogs are crunchers. But, some (not all by any means) are made that way by the lack of training that the dog received at an early age. How many times do you see posts on here my six / nine, month old pup caught it's first rabbit, then people jump on them telling them the dog is just too young?

 

If you get the basics into a pup, and it is quite a list could make 20 things, gates, water, fences, retrieving to be honest the list is a long one. Get those into place before you let the dog chase and usually (not always by any means) hard mouth does not come into it. To my mind the most important is retrieving, as Bird stated earlier a dog that just catches it's rabbit and instantly starts it's return is less likely to be hard mouthed on the rabbits.

 

I will admit it is not an exact science, but you can with a little thought and quite a bit of work reduce the chances of the dog being hard mouthed. Years ago a mate had a pure show whippet, that was mustard on the lamp, she was a small bitch and often had trouble lifting large winter rabbits. those that she did catch were invariably crunched, and she would retrieve to hand. Yet in the Autumn the younger smaller rabbits would all be alive. So size and the stick a rabbit gives a dog can and in my mind does play a part in a dog being hard mouthed.

 

TC

 

TC

 

 

Very much what I find with my little bitch TC, she's mustard around the holes nice and sharp and runs the lamp pretty well, but she is small, a lot of our land is big so it's long slips and hard work, after all that she don't always come all the way in with the rabbit, but she don't crunch them either 9 times out of 10 if I go to her the rabbits still alive.

At times I'd rather she was a bit harder mouthed and carried the whole way back, but most of the time I just enjoy her for what she is.

[terryd 8,516]

In hind site which is a wonderful thing I do wish mine had never seen a rabbit until he was 12 months instead of about 4 lol. I was worried he might not hunt