bird 9,926 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 This has not been done for a while, how many of you will tolerate a hard mouthed dog? Personally I think next to stock worrying it is the worst fault a dog can have. I know some will tolerate it as I have seen in photos of dogs retrieving dead rabbits. I am not knocking any breed here as every dog has the potential to be hard mouthed. Your thoughts please. TC i think from having lurchers 30 years ,and seen fair few differnt xs over the years , it all down to being a good retevier . meaning just watch retevier ,they will strike get the rabbit, get one nice hold and lift and bring back, now watch another dog that not great retevier they strike grab the rabbit, then fook about with therehold on it , so there mouthing the rabbit, bloody marks all over, or the rabbit will kick to try and get way, so it down to being good clean retevier i think. some dogs when pused on a hard/long night, will kill rabbits when tired as well, so some ways it pays to know when the time to call it night. 2 Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 I like a dog to bring them back alive. Looks like the pups coming on well mate Quote Link to post
bird 9,926 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 This has not been done for a while, how many of you will tolerate a hard mouthed dog? Personally I think next to stock worrying it is the worst fault a dog can have. I know some will tolerate it as I have seen in photos of dogs retrieving dead rabbits. I am not knocking any breed here as every dog has the potential to be hard mouthed. Your thoughts please. TC i think from having lurchers 30 years ,and seen fair few differnt xs over the years , it all down to being a good retevier . meaning just watch retevier ,they will strike get the rabbit, get one nice hold and lift and bring back, now watch another dog that not great retevier they strike grab the rabbit, then fook about with therehold on it , so there mouthing the rabbit, bloody marks all over, or the rabbit will kick to try and get way, so it down to being good clean retevier i think. some dogs when pused on a hard/long night, will kill rabbits when tired as well, so some ways it pays to know when the time to call it night. my 2 dogs are like this bryn was ok when young but as he got older and tired marked few, where Buck differnt he got better wind and natural at brining back, so rabbits are always unmarked, but other stuff he will leave his calling card bite like fooking croc lol Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 This has not been done for a while, how many of you will tolerate a hard mouthed dog? Personally I think next to stock worrying it is the worst fault a dog can have. I know some will tolerate it as I have seen in photos of dogs retrieving dead rabbits. I am not knocking any breed here as every dog has the potential to be hard mouthed. Your thoughts please. TC i think from having lurchers 30 years ,and seen fair few differnt xs over the years , it all down to being a good retevier . meaning just watch retevier ,they will strike get the rabbit, get one nice hold and lift and bring back, now watch another dog that not great retevier they strike grab the rabbit, then fook about with therehold on it , so there mouthing the rabbit, bloody marks all over, or the rabbit will kick to try and get way, so it down to being good clean retevier i think. some dogs when pused on a hard/long night, will kill rabbits when tired as well, so some ways it pays to know when the time to call it night. my 2 dogs are like this bryn was ok when young but as he got older and tired marked few, where Buck differnt he got better wind and natural at brining back, so rabbits are always unmarked, but other stuff he will leave his calling card bite like fooking croc lol i thought bryn was just a rabbiting dog so how come you know he got a bite like a croc on other things or am I missing the point ? Cheers Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 This has not been done for a while, how many of you will tolerate a hard mouthed dog? Personally I think next to stock worrying it is the worst fault a dog can have. I know some will tolerate it as I have seen in photos of dogs retrieving dead rabbits. I am not knocking any breed here as every dog has the potential to be hard mouthed. Your thoughts please. TC i think from having lurchers 30 years ,and seen fair few differnt xs over the years , it all down to being a good retevier . meaning just watch retevier ,they will strike get the rabbit, get one nice hold and lift and bring back, now watch another dog that not great retevier they strike grab the rabbit, then fook about with therehold on it , so there mouthing the rabbit, bloody marks all over, or the rabbit will kick to try and get way, so it down to being good clean retevier i think. some dogs when pused on a hard/long night, will kill rabbits when tired as well, so some ways it pays to know when the time to call it night. my 2 dogs are like this bryn was ok when young but as he got older and tired marked few, where Buck differnt he got better wind and natural at brining back, so rabbits are always unmarked, but other stuff he will leave his calling card bite like fooking croc lol i thought bryn was just a rabbiting dog so how come you know he got a bite like a croc on other things or am I missing the point ? Cheerssorry Ray half asleep today, re read it lol Quote Link to post
Llywelyn the last 31 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 That's quite poor if there are 20 traits above hard mouth - A rabbit catching lurcher is meant to catch for the pot - for yours or others . A complete rabbit hunting lurcher is not complete unless it retrieves , and preferably alive . There are instances where even a soft mouth dog with enthusiasm will kill and bruise badly , not every catch is going to result in a perfectly alive rabbit ......... that's the truth . But if every rabbit back is crunched and left where it is , then what the hells the point of a dog . Its just a very poorly trained (if at all ) dog that's fast ... to call it a lurcher is pushing it ! . Nothing better than a dog running back with a nice healthy and alive rabbit in its mouth , certainly adds something to the dogs qualities . It would depress me to own a dog that habitually crunched and did not retrieve rabbits . I have had one or two over the years that had hard mouths , and whereas they were good enough at the the other aspects , they were less than they could have been . Anyway I always like to justify my Rabbit hunting with using the animal who's life I have taken , and a rabbit that's crunched to hell is not one that gives the best eating in my book ! Just my simple thoughts . 1 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 That's quite poor if there are 20 traits above hard mouth - A rabbit catching lurcher is meant to catch for the pot - for yours or others . A complete rabbit hunting lurcher is not complete unless it retrieves , and preferably alive . There are instances where even a soft mouth dog with enthusiasm will kill and bruise badly , not every catch is going to result in a perfectly alive rabbit ......... that's the truth . But if every rabbit back is crunched and left where it is , then what the hells the point of a dog . Its just a very poorly trained (if at all ) dog that's fast ... to call it a lurcher is pushing it ! . Nothing better than a dog running back with a nice healthy and alive rabbit in its mouth , certainly adds something to the dogs qualities . It would depress me to own a dog that habitually crunched and did not retrieve rabbits . I have had one or two over the years that had hard mouths , and whereas they were good enough at the the other aspects , they were less than they could have been . Anyway I always like to justify my Rabbit hunting with using the animal who's life I have taken , and a rabbit that's crunched to hell is not one that gives the best eating in my book ! Just my simple thoughts . I think it's quite poor that you don't class a hard mouthed dog as a lurcher. Lol. 2 Quote Link to post
tb25 4,627 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Mine clamps on bunnys like a terrier on rats..lol Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Mine clamps on bunnys like a terrier on rats..lol That's not a lurcher. Hang your head. 3 Quote Link to post
Guest Navek Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 That's quite poor if there are 20 traits above hard mouth - A rabbit catching lurcher is meant to catch for the pot - for yours or others . A complete rabbit hunting lurcher is not complete unless it retrieves , and preferably alive . There are instances where even a soft mouth dog with enthusiasm will kill and bruise badly , not every catch is going to result in a perfectly alive rabbit ......... that's the truth . But if every rabbit back is crunched and left where it is , then what the hells the point of a dog . Its just a very poorly trained (if at all ) dog that's fast ... to call it a lurcher is pushing it ! . Nothing better than a dog running back with a nice healthy and alive rabbit in its mouth , certainly adds something to the dogs qualities . It would depress me to own a dog that habitually crunched and did not retrieve rabbits . I have had one or two over the years that had hard mouths , and whereas they were good enough at the the other aspects , they were less than they could have been . Anyway I always like to justify my Rabbit hunting with using the animal who's life I have taken , and a rabbit that's crunched to hell is not one that gives the best eating in my book ! Just my simple thoughts . why is a lurcher got catch for the pot . Most people don't every est there catch, the dog or ferrets do.. Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 That's quite poor if there are 20 traits above hard mouth - A rabbit catching lurcher is meant to catch for the pot - for yours or others . A complete rabbit hunting lurcher is not complete unless it retrieves , and preferably alive . There are instances where even a soft mouth dog with enthusiasm will kill and bruise badly , not every catch is going to result in a perfectly alive rabbit ......... that's the truth . But if every rabbit back is crunched and left where it is , then what the hells the point of a dog . Its just a very poorly trained (if at all ) dog that's fast ... to call it a lurcher is pushing it ! . Nothing better than a dog running back with a nice healthy and alive rabbit in its mouth , certainly adds something to the dogs qualities . It would depress me to own a dog that habitually crunched and did not retrieve rabbits . I have had one or two over the years that had hard mouths , and whereas they were good enough at the the other aspects , they were less than they could have been . Anyway I always like to justify my Rabbit hunting with using the animal who's life I have taken , and a rabbit that's crunched to hell is not one that gives the best eating in my book ! Just my simple thoughts . why is a lurcher got catch for the pot . Most people don't every est there catch, the dog or ferrets do..lurchers were bred to catch for the table...don't get what's so hard to get?To say that you would rather a hard mouthed dog over a soft mouthed dog is a it silly... Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Thank god were not all the same my smallest dog takes its time sometimes bringing me the rabbit back that maybe her size but she has a great habit of skinning them and preparing for the pot with carrots and onions but she does forget the ceraly from time to times so she's not a lurcher and shows no quality of ever being one no wonder the collie cross owners have no esteem on us terrier cross owners 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 That's quite poor if there are 20 traits above hard mouth - A rabbit catching lurcher is meant to catch for the pot - for yours or others . A complete rabbit hunting lurcher is not complete unless it retrieves , and preferably alive . There are instances where even a soft mouth dog with enthusiasm will kill and bruise badly , not every catch is going to result in a perfectly alive rabbit ......... that's the truth . But if every rabbit back is crunched and left where it is , then what the hells the point of a dog . Its just a very poorly trained (if at all ) dog that's fast ... to call it a lurcher is pushing it ! . Nothing better than a dog running back with a nice healthy and alive rabbit in its mouth , certainly adds something to the dogs qualities . It would depress me to own a dog that habitually crunched and did not retrieve rabbits . I have had one or two over the years that had hard mouths , and whereas they were good enough at the the other aspects , they were less than they could have been . Anyway I always like to justify my Rabbit hunting with using the animal who's life I have taken , and a rabbit that's crunched to hell is not one that gives the best eating in my book ! Just my simple thoughts . why is a lurcher got catch for the pot . Most people don't every est there catch, the dog or ferrets do..because of ladybird books and all the romantic poacher piss years since I eat one but bogs love them 2 Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Hard mouth on this dog. 6 Quote Link to post
Guest Navek Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 That's quite poor if there are 20 traits above hard mouth - A rabbit catching lurcher is meant to catch for the pot - for yours or others . A complete rabbit hunting lurcher is not complete unless it retrieves , and preferably alive . There are instances where even a soft mouth dog with enthusiasm will kill and bruise badly , not every catch is going to result in a perfectly alive rabbit ......... that's the truth . But if every rabbit back is crunched and left where it is , then what the hells the point of a dog . Its just a very poorly trained (if at all ) dog that's fast ... to call it a lurcher is pushing it ! . Nothing better than a dog running back with a nice healthy and alive rabbit in its mouth , certainly adds something to the dogs qualities . It would depress me to own a dog that habitually crunched and did not retrieve rabbits . I have had one or two over the years that had hard mouths , and whereas they were good enough at the the other aspects , they were less than they could have been . Anyway I always like to justify my Rabbit hunting with using the animal who's life I have taken , and a rabbit that's crunched to hell is not one that gives the best eating in my book ! Just my simple thoughts . why is a lurcher got catch for the pot . Most people don't every est there catch, the dog or ferrets do..lurchers were bred to catch for the table...don't get what's so hard to get?To say that you would rather a hard mouthed dog over a soft mouthed dog is a it silly... were does it say I prefer? It doesn't it says I'm not bothered ... And actually they were for catching edible game to put food on the table . I'm pretty sure them hungry families weren't bothers if it was brought back dead or alive . And the topic is about hard mouthed... Not tagging the shit out of the rabbit . Quote Link to post
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