Bosun11 537 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Live to hand is a nice touch and for some folk it's essential and i've been fortunate to own very good dogs that do this.ee Me, i'm far more interested in the catch and as long as the dog don't feck off the other way with it, then that'll do! On some spots an immaculate live to hand retrieve can cost you a bigger bag. But it is not just the catch though is it? It's the whole experience the hunt, the catch and the retrieve are all part and parcel of the dogs work. TC Err.. Yerr... You get a dog that catches feck all and live to hand don't mean shit! Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Live to hand is a nice touch and for some folk it's essential and i've been fortunate to own very good dogs that do this.ee Me, i'm far more interested in the catch and as long as the dog don't feck off the other way with it, then that'll do! On some spots an immaculate live to hand retrieve can cost you a bigger bag. But it is not just the catch though is it? It's the whole experience the hunt, the catch and the retrieve are all part and parcel of the dogs work. TC Err.. Yerr... You get a dog that catches feck all and live to hand don't mean shit! pmsl Quote Link to post
Guest Navek Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Brightend up my day that as lol Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 My dogs will do everything and retrieve rabbits live to hand ... I have to have dogs that retrieve live to hand as when you are working in people's gardens and in public areas the majority of people want to see mr rabbit fetched back to you unharmed so that it can be dispatched humanely rather than the big nasty dog killing it ....... It's nice to see that some people maintaining high standards. Personally I like to have the option to use the rabbit for the table rather than a poorly trained dog who will bruise the catch or even worse not retrieve it to hand. It beggars believe that people are willing to accept anything less than their lurcher retrieving live to hand and it is no wonder why gun dog people regard us lurchermen with such low esteem. I don't think poor retrieving or hard mouth is why lurchermen are held in low esteem. Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Seems that a lot of 'lurchermen' are happy with poorly trained dogs generally. As for 'retrieving will come'-it won't if it isn't trained. Any dog should be well trained before it sees quarry of any sort. 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 No again ffs Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Depends what you class as well trained, biggest thing is being stock broke, the other things are down to what the owner is willing to put up with... Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Some people are just to good to be owning lurchers 2 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Some people are just to good to be owning lurchers Your wrong there, some people have higher standards for their dogs, and learn how to achieve those standards. Others are just happy if their dog catches. Up to the individual. TC Edited November 2, 2015 by tiercel Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Mine if told to leave will leave but been that long since I used a net usually just bolt for dog Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Some people are just to good to be owning lurchers Your wrong there, some people have higher standards for their dogs, and learn how to achieve those standards. Others are just happy if their dog catches. Up to the individual. TC suppose I did put that wrong think most dogs learn as they go just basics does me Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Some people are just to good to be owning lurchersYour wrong there, some people have higher standards for their dogs, and learn how to achieve those standards. Others are just happy if their dog catches. Up to the individual. TC suppose I did put that wrong think most dogs learn as they go just basics does me Nothing wrong with that at all. But why decry the people who work to get more out of their dogs? TC Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Could ask the same to the ones that are saying some dogs are poorly trained Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 "Some people just have higher standards for their dogs" "Seems a lot of lurcher men are happy with poorly trained dogs" We're talking about a bruised bunny ffs, I'd love to see some of you lads dogs, they must be incredible and flawless if you consider it bringing back bruised or dead bunnies as a mark of a poorly trained dog owned by a man with low standards! 8 Quote Link to post
terryd 8,461 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Mine is very rough around the edges but I am constantly on him and refuse to let him run wild when we out. I don't mind him working ahead and his getting steady. But if he starts galloping about a bit wild I stick him on a lead and get a handle on him. Again this grabbing netted rabbits thats a personal preference I did toy with the idea I of having him not touch them but to be honest I love knowing that he will nab the netted rabbit and I can stand back instead of having to plough in the black thorn lol. He will get there a lot quicker than me. He was initially a bit heavy with them but as he gets more experience he is being much lighter about it. 2 Quote Link to post
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