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Ive had nice soft mouthed retrievers, in the past. Now I’ve the worm has turned lol. I enjoy the dog working and the meats a by-product for me these days. To compare to stock worrying is a bit ove

My dogs will do everything and retrieve rabbits live to hand ... I have to have dogs that retrieve live to hand as when you are working in people's gardens and in public areas the majority of people w

I tried the old walk away from mine on lamp after about two fields and a bit of cat and mouse. I stop he stops type thing he came with in a couple of yards. Tried a second time again walked nearly bac

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Live to hand is a nice touch and for some folk it's essential and i've been fortunate to own very good dogs that do this.ee

Me, i'm far more interested in the catch and as long as the dog don't feck off the other way with it, then that'll do!

 

On some spots an immaculate live to hand retrieve can cost you a bigger bag. ;)

But it is not just the catch though is it? It's the whole experience the hunt, the catch and the retrieve are all part and parcel of the dogs work.

 

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In your world mate lol

Actually all my lurchers have all been live to hand. I honestly cannot see the pleasure in owning a point and shoot dog that just kills the rabbits and drops them. To my eyes it reflects badly on the owner that he could not be bothered to teach the dog to retrieve, I mean it's not rocket science after all.

 

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Your moving the goal posts now..

 

Your talking about retrieving lol.

 

Fair comment, :thumbs: but to me it goes hand in hand with a dog being hard mouthed. It is very rare a dog that will retrieve to hand be hard mouthed. A lot of the problems with hard mouthed dog could be avoided by not entering the dog until it is ready mentally and physically. Retrieving training goes along way in preparing the dog for work so when they do actually catch their first thought is to bring the rabbit back to you.

 

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If your dog only lamps, then your only dealing with one rabbit at a time, so bringing live to hand is a good trick. But when your doing a hedge on your own, and rabbits are bolting, you need a dog that can go up a gear and put them away quickly and move on to the next. Other wise, when the land owner drives past the ground you say you've cleared, and there's rabbits sat out eating his crops, your going to look a twat.

yeah fair enough. I was only looking at it from a sporting perspective - not a pest control.

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As others have said there are much bigger faults a dog could have. If I wrote the top 20 things I want from my lurchers then being soft mouthed on bunnys wouldn't be in there.

 

Just shows that we all have different expectations.

 

I've been out with lads who's dogs won't jump. Much bigger problem if you ask me? And something what's easily taught.

 

Same for crossing water. I've seen "fantastic" dogs sat at the other side of the river whining and crying because it won't come across. But it's okay they had a soft mouths on rabbits. Lol

20 things? You picky f****r... Lol
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Some dogs will and some won't no matter all the rocket science you put into it

 

Many would argue that you can teach any dog to retrieve mate
your not called ceaser are you ?

never mind. Sorry if I have offended you in
no offended me ffs you can't help your skills lol
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There is some absolute drivel spouted on this thread! Makes you wonder how much experience of dogs and hunting in the real world some of the thl dog training experts have really had!

Care to state what you think is drivel?

 

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I have NEVER had a dog I couldn't train to retrieve it's pretty basic really.

Nearly every dog can be taught to retrieve.

 

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He was 18 months old when I had him and would not go in water.

 

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Dog only needs to keep one person happy and that is the owner. I couldn't be more happy with mine now and he doesn't retrieve at 20 months that is not to say he wont in the future. There is no dead line I have to meet lol. He gives 110% work wise I couldn't ask for more really and I like him lol

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