nothernlite 18,086 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I guess it's about tailoring the choice of cross, to suit your personality and hunting style. Unfortunately it may take a few dogs to find which suits. never a truer word said spot on Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted October 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Do people think that breeding a litter like deer grey collie bull grey beddy saluki etc will really extract the best from every breed? I think not personally, it's nice to think it'll have it all from them but it's just luck of the draw in it? my collie x is quite heavily influence I am quite excited to put anything infront of him this season and see how he deals with it. Regards to speed stamina toughness and drive , well he has drive is buckets. He's run a lot of hard rabbits already and not once have I thought he's giving up, or has he pulled up at hedges etc, Infact I found him opposite side of fence one night in about 5 ft of ferns n brambles. I may be eating my words come February and have No hair left, we shal see lol Quote Link to post
Ross M 149 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I guess it's about tailoring the choice of cross, to suit your personality and hunting style. Unfortunately it may take a few dogs to find which suits. Ain't that the truth! Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,086 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Do people think that breeding a litter like deer grey collie bull grey beddy saluki etc will really extract the best from every breed? I think not personally, it's nice to think it'll have it all from them but it's just luck of the draw in it? my collie x is quite heavily influence I am quite excited to put anything infront of him this season and see how he deals with it. Regards to speed stamina toughness and drive , well he has drive is buckets. He's run a lot of hard rabbits already and not once have I thought he's giving up, or has he pulled up at hedges etc, Infact I found him opposite side of fence one night in about 5 ft of ferns n brambles. I may be eating my words come February and have No hair left, we shal see lol time yet lol 2 Quote Link to post
jake824 517 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 We had a few beagles about us and used to push woods and such like through for farmers controlling foxes. We did this most Sunday's on a regular basis. We had different lads from all over come and bring lurchers. Daytime foxes were a completely different ball game to lamped foxes as a lot of the lads discovered. I myself kept bull crosses and ran a 5/8 x 3/8 who had killed a lot of foxes over the 9 years I ran him. I watched a lot of collie blooded lurchers run and would nt have had one in my kennels. Over the years of watching foxes being run in daytime . The most versatile daytime all round hunting , marking and fox killing lurcher I saw was the bedlington blooded types. Super quick and loads of drive. Some did like mutton though.The collie cross brought nothing to the table when faced with teeth . 2 Quote Link to post
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I guess it's about tailoring the choice of cross, to suit your personality and hunting style. Unfortunately it may take a few dogs to find which suits. quite often the dog you want, and the dog you actually NEED, are very different types of dog, mentally and physically 6 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I guess it's about tailoring the choice of cross, to suit your personality and hunting style. Unfortunately it may take a few dogs to find which suits. Ain't that the truth!Definitely very true that. I think most people go through a stage (early on) where they aren't sure what they want. Or maybe they know what they want in a dog but aren't sure where to find it. I was no different and I'm guilty of chasing that "world beater", for a few years. But once I settled down and saw the dogs for what they were, a source of enjoyment and fun, with the bonus of free meat now and then, my "requirements" if you like, changed. I no longer need a world beater. Just a honest dog that will have a go at any given task and try it's best. I think I will always have a splash of collie in my dogs. But only need a splash mind. The other ingredients such as deerhound, saluki, bull and terrier etc seem to compliment the collie cross so well. 2 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,086 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I'm the opposite wouldn't have it in my dogs like a dog that tries very hard and puts everything into it and doesn't back down just like me (not)lol bet there collie crosses like that out there but I've only ever seen one in my time with dogs Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted October 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Do people think that breeding a litter like deer grey collie bull grey beddy saluki etc will really extract the best from every breed? I think not personally, it's nice to think it'll have it all from them but it's just luck of the draw in it? my collie x is quite heavily influence I am quite excited to put anything infront of him this season and see how he deals with it. Regards to speed stamina toughness and drive , well he has drive is buckets. He's run a lot of hard rabbits already and not once have I thought he's giving up, or has he pulled up at hedges etc, Infact I found him opposite side of fence one night in about 5 ft of ferns n brambles. I may be eating my words come February and have No hair left, we shal see lol time yet loldefinitely is, and if he doesnt meet what I want them I know it's not me from starting him to soon and not giving him time to come into his own. Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,515 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 While out with my collie Xs and leaving my bull X at home I'm always find myself missing that tough hard dog around that you know will latch on and give it its all that's what I love about having a bull X about you can't beat them for drive and toughness love them or hate them Quote Link to post
bob84 189 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 This might sound a stupid question but would u just use a collie like the leggie type's u see on some farms that work cattle and sheep or would u go for the sheep trialing one's to breed half crosses Quote Link to post
breeze 1,307 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I've kept collie based lurchers for a number of years now .... best part of 20 odd. I know that they don't suit everyone but they do me just fine, catching me a few bits and bobs but mine have been generation bred collie types and funnily enough I have never owned a 1st cross dog The last 3 bitches that I have kept .... 12 Quote Link to post
Chid 6,537 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 This might sound a stupid question but would u just use a collie like the leggie type's u see on some farms that work cattle and sheep or would u go for the sheep trialing one's to breed half crosses A collie used for driving cattle would be my choice Quote Link to post
bob84 189 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 This might sound a stupid question but would u just use a collie like the leggie type's u see on some farms that work cattle and sheep or would u go for the sheep trialing one's to breed half crossesA collie used for driving cattle would be my choice is that because they'd be that bit harder work wise Quote Link to post
Chid 6,537 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 This might sound a stupid question but would u just use a collie like the leggie type's u see on some farms that work cattle and sheep or would u go for the sheep trialing one's to breed half crossesA collie used for driving cattle would be my choice is that because they'd be that bit harder work wise Yes especially if they work a beef herd Quote Link to post
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