Collie Blood

[trenchfoot 4,243]

a question on the upbringing of a collie based lurcher. how much freedom do you allow on a daily basis? I am talking about free mouching from being a pup, and what impact did it have on the pup when it reached adulthood?

[shepp 2,285]

I would probably go for a lurcher to lurcher mating next time with collie and terrier in the makeup.

[Tiercel 6,986]

a question on the upbringing of a collie based lurcher. how much freedom do you allow on a daily basis? I am talking about free mouching from being a pup, and what impact did it have on the pup when it reached adulthood?

To be honest, I never gave a dog freedom, I am a bit of a control freak as far as dogs go. The dog may think it is doing as it likes but it must be under control at all times. I had always trained my dogs the same as you would train a gundog. In retrospect it is a fair bet that I did not get the best out of the dogs. It was only when I trained a GWP that the penny dropped with me and I realised that a dog can be half a mile away from you and still be under control.

 

That said as long as the dog is not running wild (under control) and is focused on the job at hand there is no reason why you cannot let the dog learn for it's self.

 

TC

[bird 9,913]

having had 3 and got one now ,bryn 1x colliexgrey, i think i can say a bit about them,lol., physically there are spot on they have good (feet,coat,agile,fast ) and a plenty of brain, but to me its this fookin brain is there undoing, as they think about somthing,than just rather do it. lets all be honest here how clever does a dog have to be to catch a rabbit,either in the lamp ,or the day. any kind of dog with bit of pace will catch rabbit, regards the day all dogs given the chance will use there nose to ferret etc. one thing i have deff found out is that you dont need alot of collie in alurcher, a 1/4 is plenty. i had a lurcher x lurcher bitch 24 in brindle smooth , who was great in the day and night, catch hares, in the day kill foxes and get good rabbits, she was on paper a 1/4 collie the rest whippet,grey bit of bull, she got hurt at 4 1/2 year old never ran again this was in the 80s. i had 3 pure colliexgreys since then, and being honest not one vwas any better really, in fact my dog now Buck 1x gsdxgrey as good or better than colliexgrey ive ever had,,his last bag was 36 rabbits, he will tackle what ever you put him on, more fire in his belly than any colliex that ive ever had.

[Tiercel 6,986]

To be honest, I think that anyone who owns and likes a collie x has to have a certain mind set. You have to enjoy working with the qualities that the cross brings to the table, and moulding those qualities to suit the type of hunting you do. If you are the type of person who likes a point and shoot type of dog then forget the collie cross as they are defiantly going to be smarter than you.

 

TC

[trenchfoot 4,243]

 

a question on the upbringing of a collie based lurcher. how much freedom do you allow on a daily basis? I am talking about free mouching from being a pup, and what impact did it have on the pup when it reached adulthood?

To be honest, I never gave a dog freedom, I am a bit of a control freak as far as dogs go. The dog may think it is doing as it likes but it must be under control at all times. I had always trained my dogs the same as you would train a gundog. In retrospect it is a fair bet that I did not get the best out of the dogs. It was only when I trained a GWP that the penny dropped with me and I realised that a dog can be half a mile away from you and still be under control.

 

That said as long as the dog is not running wild (under control) and is focused on the job at hand there is no reason why you cannot let the dog learn for it's self.

 

TC

 

TC, I must admit to being a bit of a control freak too, but sometimes circumstances sometimes dictate otherwise and some dogs just stand out. My first dog that went everywhere with me. And was used for everything. Another that I found on a shoot I was involved in. A skinny, pheasant muncher that I should of shot but didn't and lived on it's wits. And my current pup. Outside all day, mostly unsupervised. Then I take her out for a ratch for a couple of hour or so daily. Mentally these 3 dogs are far and away better dogs than those that I have intensively schooled when it comes to using the grey matter. I just wondered what others experience was under such circumstances?

[dytkos 17,793]

I don't like collies much but I like anything up to half cross in my mutts.

What does that make me?

 

Cheers, D.

[nothernlite 18,086]

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[Ross M 149]

I think it people don't understand them, I've seen dogs with more brain then their owners and read a hunting situation better than the person involved, personally I like just enough brain so they know the score but not enough they start thinking or making there own decisions very fine line. Plus most are used to sighthounds or terrier bull blood that bit more tunnel vision and hunting style then they try it with a more heavier collie type and break them, and that's my opinion on the ones I've seen start get fussy or stale on game it was the owners that have caused it ( not talking about the over and out non triers with no drive)

[ands 544]

a question on the upbringing of a collie based lurcher. how much freedom do you allow on a daily basis? I am talking about free mouching from being a pup, and what impact did it have on the pup when it reached adulthood?

I'd say as much freedom as possible, as often as possible coupled with obedience training hopefully will go a long way towards a dog thats handy at different trades lol

[mad4it 694]

 

I to like collie xs I am bringing on a first x collie xgreyhound that now 14 months old, to me there something about collie xs

hows it coming on? I've always fancied this cross.

 

she coming along quite well and is bright, i am just taking my time to bring her along.

she is my third colliex my first one I had used to pick hedgehogs up and carry them plus she was a great family dog, my second one didnt get pass three she broke her neck chasing a rabbit which went down a hole under a tree she tryed following it.

Edited October 29, 2015 by mad4it

[Wales1234 5,515]

I like collie lurchers I have a half cross and a lurcher with a lot of collie in her with added breeds !!

The half cross is still young and to look at she's all there and looks a cracking stamp for a lurcher her nose and stamina is unreal but I think as mad as she is will lack a bit of guts !

The lurcher with a lot of collie in her but bull and deerhound added still got the stamina and nose but is a gutsy bitch I think the collie has its place in the lurcher would but think lurchers with added bull or terrier make a better all round lurcher just my thought

[kps1979 1,308]

My friends late collie based lurcher bitch dancer, she was a fantastic dog not just on rabbits either..

[bird 9,913]

I like collie lurchers I have a half cross and a lurcher with a lot of collie in her with added breeds !!

The half cross is still young and to look at she's all there and looks a cracking stamp for a lurcher her nose and stamina is unreal but I think as mad as she is will lack a bit of guts !

The lurcher with a lot of collie in her but bull and deerhound added still got the stamina and nose but is a gutsy bitch I think the collie has its place in the lurcher would but think lurchers with added bull or terrier make a better all round lurcher just my thought

[shepp 2,285]

I guess it's about tailoring the choice of cross, to suit your personality and hunting style.

Unfortunately it may take a few dogs to find which suits.