*The*Field*Marshall* 674 Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Give the bull x boys something to go after ha ha . . Nice idea, in practice not so sure . . Live stock ravaged, angry farmers etc . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) When you watch clips of wild animals attacking pet dogs you realise how powerful wild creatures are, I've even seen Coyotes carry dogs away like they're some little toy. I don't care what dog it is, if I Wolf is hungry and desperate to eat chances are it's killing your dog. This wolf even pulls the dog off its chain. http://youtu.be/yUTepkgGPYk http://youtu.be/ovt3M65jSbE Edited October 27, 2015 by DogFox123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,927 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 hell of a animal kill most dogs, they eat a pit while it was fighting them,only kangal i reckon would know how to deal with awolf, as they been bred to kill them (not)fight them, my mate goes to Turkey few times a year,and seen the proper one bred for killing wolves,and apart from being massive 11st they have couple loose that would soon kill =them, they just go for throat , not dog to mess with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 hell of a animal kill most dogs, they eat a pit while it was fighting them,only kangal i reckon would know how to deal with awolf, as they been bred to kill them (not)fight them, my mate goes to Turkey few times a year,and seen the proper one bred for killing wolves,and apart from being massive 11st they have couple loose that would soon kill =them, they just go for throat , not dog to mess with. Even those big powerful beasts wear great big spiked collars to protect them from the wolves when they're fighting the wolves they get in Turkey are much smaller than the wolves in North America too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 hell of a animal kill most dogs, they eat a pit while it was fighting them,only kangal i reckon would know how to deal with awolf, as they been bred to kill them (not)fight them, my mate goes to Turkey few times a year,and seen the proper one bred for killing wolves,and apart from being massive 11st they have couple loose that would soon kill =them, they just go for throat , not dog to mess with. Every clip I've seen of Kangals on Wolves the Wolves are clearly not 100% fit or fully grown. Wolves eat Kangals too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 hell of a animal kill most dogs, they eat a pit while it was fighting them,only kangal i reckon would know how to deal with awolf, as they been bred to kill them (not)fight them, my mate goes to Turkey few times a year,and seen the proper one bred for killing wolves,and apart from being massive 11st they have couple loose that would soon kill =them, they just go for throat , not dog to mess with.Every clip I've seen of Kangals on Wolves the Wolves are clearly not 100% fit or fully grown. Wolves eat Kangals too. A real deal wolf killing Kangal is a rare and highly prized asset over there, they're mostly there to chase the wolves off not kill them. They nearly always work in pairs too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 The best dog out of all the LGD breeds is the Central Asian Ovcharka. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Not when it comes to actually doing the job they were bred for. Not by a long shot, imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Not when it comes to actually doing the job they were bred for. Not by a long shot, imo. They are a versatile breed, they even use them for fighting in Russia. For a large breed their agility and stamina is unreal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 What Theodore Roosevelt had to say on the matter: "A wolf is a terrible fighter. He will decimate a pack of hounds by rapid snaps with his giant jaws while suffering little damage himself; nor are the ordinary big dogs, supposed to be fighting dogs, able to tackle him without special training. I have known one wolf to kill a bulldog which had rushed at it with a single snap, while another which had entered the yard of a Montana ranch house slew in quick succession both of the large mastiffs by which it was assailed. The immense agility and ferocity of the wild beast, the terrible snap of his long-toothed jaws, and the admirable training in which he always is, give him a great advantage over fat, small-toothed, smooth-skinned dogs, even though they are nominally supposed to belong to the fighting classes. In the way that bench competitions are arranged nowadays this is but natural, as there is no temptation to produce a worthy class of fighting dog when the rewards are given upon technical points wholly unconnected with the dog's usefulness. A prize-winning mastiff or bulldog may be almost useless for the only purposes for which his kind is ever useful at all. A mastiff, if properly trained and of sufficient size, might possibly be able to meet a young or undersized Texas wolf; but I have never seen a dog of this variety which I would esteem a match single-handed for one of the huge timber wolves of western Montana. Even if the dog was the heavier of the two, his teeth and claws would be very much smaller and weaker and his hide less tough." I really must read his book!........ Hunting the Grisly and Other Sketches 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Do wolves really have this massive fabled bite force people talk about? Dogs and wolves are essentially the same thing so why would one have a stronger bite beyond any head/jaw size differences. Also if wolves are cleverer, stronger more stamina than any dogs weve bred that doesnt say much for our breeding skill eh.imo a big healthy mastiff or similar would wipe the floor with a wolf 1v1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Not when it comes to actually doing the job they were bred for. Not by a long shot, imo. They are a versatile breed, they even use them for fighting in Russia. For a large breed their agility and stamina is unreal. Versatile they may be, though I'd argue no more so than the other LGD types and when it comes to actually guarding livestock there's better out there than the Ovcharkas, mainly because they're not really used exclusively in that capacity anymore unlike the Kangal and Maremma The stamina and aglity in all the LGDs is seriously impressive I don't understand why careful outcrosses to them haven't been used to improve the general health of the mastiff types Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Just checked timber wolves are around 110lb so a big dog considering it will be in good condition. Ive never seen a 110lb bullx but judging from the 80lbish ones ive seen nothing on planet earth around a similar size would have an easy time with 110lb bullx and a smaller wolf say 70lb wouldnt stand a chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Just checked timber wolves are around 110lb so a big dog considering it will be in good condition. Ive never seen a 110lb bullx but judging from the 80lbish ones ive seen nothing on planet earth around a similar size would have an easy time with 110lb bullx and a smaller wolf say 70lb wouldnt stand a chance. Sorted then fella, maybe you should let the yanks know..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Just checked timber wolves are around 110lb so a big dog considering it will be in good condition. Ive never seen a 110lb bullx but judging from the 80lbish ones ive seen nothing on planet earth around a similar size would have an easy time with 110lb bullx and a smaller wolf say 70lb wouldnt stand a chance. Sorted then fella, maybe you should let the yanks know..... id imagine they already do know, not seen any clips of a dogo getting dragged off by a lone wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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