So Who Wants To Release Wolves Back In The Countryside ?

[Saluki246 1,053]

The clip was interesting to watch. I like wolves a lot and have been with them in certain places in the passed.

I felt for the dog, but, it was in their territory and the wolves were doing what comes natural to them.

The wolf population is growing and the inate human fear of the wolf is still their unfortunately.

I would like to see them reinroduced, but, i think their would have to be a scheme where the farmers that loose any livestcock, get compensated for any loss, it would only be fair.

The wolf is increasing its range in sweden.

In the clip, when the dog first got up to them, it reconised them as its own species , as wolves and dogs have the same genes and can breed to make pups. It was interesting to see how the dog reacted to the wolves, he was trying to not make eye contact and doing what dogs do when they met, like say in a park, the wolves did the same, wagging tails a bit ect..!

The dog did not back down and run, so was attacked by the wolves, dont forget, wild wolves kill each other all the time, when they invade other wolves space..

Their is a lot of properganda surrounding wolves, mainly given out by folks that hate them and exagerated tails ect of attacks..

They once roamed all over britain and ireland, they have a right to come back after being wiped out, just my opinion.

Remember, you all would not have your lurchers now, if it was not for the wolf in the passed..

Clip below, shows wolves filmed in the willd and how relentless they are, when they decide to kill to eat...!

Below that, is why wolves are needed...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b3py1xa8p0

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa5OBhXz-Q#t=49

[kanny 20,650]

People say they will control the red deer population but im sure they would choose an easier option like a cow or a sheep.

there's strong evidence to suggest that introducing a apex predator has a significant positive effect on the natural environment as in yellow stone. However the Scottish Highlands aren't yellow stone it seems total madness to me that they ban hunting deer with dogs yet there solution to the deer problems eating tree saplings causing land deterioration is to release a pack of wolf's that will no doubt be in direct conflict with livestock...shooting deer doesn't really solve the problem as it doesn't keep the deer on there toes moving them around and keeping constant pressure on them as a sustained campaign of hunting with dogs and hounds would have and with the added benefit of no livestock conflict.

[forest of dean redneck 11,669]

Now with deer every where ,has deer stalking got cheaper,I'm just musing whether stalking a quarry that could possibly kill you,like wolves or brown bears, would it bring in greater revenue and get more people flocking to the highland estates generating them more income. Have they been getting lesser footfall over the years?

[Lab 10,979]

The clip was interesting to watch. I like wolves a lot and have been with them in certain places in the passed.

I felt for the dog, but, it was in their territory and the wolves were doing what comes natural to them.

The wolf population is growing and the inate human fear of the wolf is still their unfortunately.

I would like to see them reinroduced, but, i think their would have to be a scheme where the farmers that loose any livestcock, get compensated for any loss, it would only be fair.

The wolf is increasing its range in sweden.

In the clip, when the dog first got up to them, it reconised them as its own species , as wolves and dogs have the same genes and can breed to make pups. It was interesting to see how the dog reacted to the wolves, he was trying to not make eye contact and doing what dogs do when they met, like say in a park, the wolves did the same, wagging tails a bit ect..!

The dog did not back down and run, so was attacked by the wolves, dont forget, wild wolves kill each other all the time, when they invade other wolves space..

Their is a lot of properganda surrounding wolves, mainly given out by folks that hate them and exagerated tails ect of attacks..

They once roamed all over britain and ireland, they have a right to come back after being wiped out, just my opinion.

Remember, you all would not have your lurchers now, if it was not for the wolf in the passed..

Clip below, shows wolves filmed in the willd and how relentless they are, when they decide to kill to eat...!

Below that, is why wolves are needed...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b3py1xa8p0

 

100% disagree. It's easy for anyone not financially going to be effected thinking its a great idea. I can see that!

Facts are wolves would make a serious dent in livestock numbers and just 'dishing' out money for losses just wouldn't sit right with most farmers.

I also think the tourist industry would take a hit......folk would be so happy to go walking the hills if they thought Wolves were freely roaming.

Just my opinion of course.

[BGD 6,436]

All these plans for reintroduction of wolves involve fencing off vast swathes of the highlands and barring access to the public.

 

I wonder why rich land owners are so keen on the idea

Edited October 24, 2015 by BGD

[Mickey Finn 3,014]

The clip was interesting to watch. I like wolves a lot and have been with them in certain places in the passed.

I felt for the dog, but, it was in their territory and the wolves were doing what comes natural to them.

The wolf population is growing and the inate human fear of the wolf is still their unfortunately.

I would like to see them reinroduced, but, i think their would have to be a scheme where the farmers that loose any livestcock, get compensated for any loss, it would only be fair.

The wolf is increasing its range in sweden.

In the clip, when the dog first got up to them, it reconised them as its own species , as wolves and dogs have the same genes and can breed to make pups. It was interesting to see how the dog reacted to the wolves, he was trying to not make eye contact and doing what dogs do when they met, like say in a park, the wolves did the same, wagging tails a bit ect..!

The dog did not back down and run, so was attacked by the wolves, dont forget, wild wolves kill each other all the time, when they invade other wolves space..

Their is a lot of properganda surrounding wolves, mainly given out by folks that hate them and exagerated tails ect of attacks..

They once roamed all over britain and ireland, they have a right to come back after being wiped out, just my opinion.

Remember, you all would not have your lurchers now, if it was not for the wolf in the passed..

Clip below, shows wolves filmed in the willd and how relentless they are, when they decide to kill to eat...!

Below that, is why wolves are needed...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b3py1xa8p0

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa5OBhXz-Q#t=49

Saluki246, I believe you might be the one suffering the effects of propaganda.

[pesky1972 5,320]

 

Watch the whole vid. The owner was moose hunting and scared the wolves away and actually got the dog to the vet who saved it.

The dog was wearing a vest, which saved it.

My own opinion after watching it was that wolves are curs.

Really interesting bit of film, thanks for posting.

 

All I see is wolves being wolves. Not bad or nasty, just wolves.

 

Reintroduction to the UK is a non-starter and not worth even talking about.

[South hams hunter 8,924]

Dont forget beddy/whippets aswell dotty.

 

maybe rather than wolves they could just release beddyx pups into the wild, few generations and wolves would look domesticated

[j1985 1,984]

Touching on a point made further back about the difference between being a scared animal and self preservation. An animal with high self preservation is a scared animal simple as that, either born that way going off instinct or a learnt behaviour from past events....you see it in some dogs, they start off wreckless then steady up once they've been hurt or out matched by an opponent.

 

Also if it was the case that they aren't scared animals then the guardian breeds that are bred to fenc off wolves from livestock wouldn't exist...what would be the point in breeding a dog to take on something that isn't scared of it ?

[forest of dean redneck 11,669]

Dont forget beddy/whippets aswell dotty.

maybe rather than wolves they could just release beddyx pups into the wild, few generations and wolves would look domesticated

And just as I think bull x lurchers are declining ,they will be breeding them again for putting against wolves.

[ryaldinhio 4,658]

 

People say they will control the red deer population but im sure they would choose an easier option like a cow or a sheep.

there's strong evidence to suggest that introducing a apex predator has a significant positive effect on the natural environment as in yellow stone. However the Scottish Highlands aren't yellow stone it seems total madness to me that they ban hunting deer with dogs yet there solution to the deer problems eating tree saplings causing land deterioration is to release a pack of wolf's that will no doubt be in direct conflict with livestock...shooting deer doesn't really solve the problem as it doesn't keep the deer on there toes moving them around and keeping constant pressure on them as a sustained campaign of hunting with dogs and hounds would have and with the added benefit of no livestock conflict.

100% agree, pretty much what I was guna say to it, how can they say wolves would hunt and control red deer population when its illegal for man to hunt them with dogs where there is some control?! Wolves, as with all wildlife, will do whats easiest. They would soon realise that domesticated animals are generally kept in concentration and co tained hence easier to catch. they would just end up moving towards populated areas and become a threat but no doubt they would be protected!!!

[Mickey Finn 3,014]

 

 

People say they will control the red deer population but im sure they would choose an easier option like a cow or a sheep.

there's strong evidence to suggest that introducing a apex predator has a significant positive effect on the natural environment as in yellow stone. However the Scottish Highlands aren't yellow stone it seems total madness to me that they ban hunting deer with dogs yet there solution to the deer problems eating tree saplings causing land deterioration is to release a pack of wolf's that will no doubt be in direct conflict with livestock...shooting deer doesn't really solve the problem as it doesn't keep the deer on there toes moving them around and keeping constant pressure on them as a sustained campaign of hunting with dogs and hounds would have and with the added benefit of no livestock conflict.

100% agree, pretty much what I was guna say to it, how can they say wolves would hunt and control red deer population when its illegal for man to hunt them with dogs where there is some control?! Wolves, as with all wildlife, will do whats easiest. They would soon realise that domesticated animals are generally kept in concentration and co tained hence easier to catch. they would just end up moving towards populated areas and become a threat but no doubt they would be protected!!!

 

 

 

 

People say they will control the red deer population but im sure they would choose an easier option like a cow or a sheep.

there's strong evidence to suggest that introducing a apex predator has a significant positive effect on the natural environment as in yellow stone. However the Scottish Highlands aren't yellow stone it seems total madness to me that they ban hunting deer with dogs yet there solution to the deer problems eating tree saplings causing land deterioration is to release a pack of wolf's that will no doubt be in direct conflict with livestock...shooting deer doesn't really solve the problem as it doesn't keep the deer on there toes moving them around and keeping constant pressure on them as a sustained campaign of hunting with dogs and hounds would have and with the added benefit of no livestock conflict.

100% agree, pretty much what I was guna say to it, how can they say wolves would hunt and control red deer population when its illegal for man to hunt them with dogs where there is some control?! Wolves, as with all wildlife, will do whats easiest. They would soon realise that domesticated animals are generally kept in concentration and co tained hence easier to catch. they would just end up moving towards populated areas and become a threat but no doubt they would be protected!!!

 

Been our experience here. We've fought long and hard to control their numbers. But the anti's keep taking us to court and tying things up with ill informed and sympathetic judges.

 

Wolves are a hot button issue over here.

Edited October 25, 2015 by Mickey Finn

[Accip74 7,112]

Wolves can be kept at bay with a yard broom........adds fcuk all to the discussion, but it's a fact.....

[beast 1,884]

Wolves can be kept at bay with a yard broom........adds fcuk all to the discussion, but it's a fact.....

 

yes, captive well fed wolves, with no motivation to eat people, and if those wolves have been taught from a young age that humans with brooms are best avoided. you won't keep a determined wolf away with a brush if it has decided to eat you.

 

http://graywolfnews.com/pdf/dr_valarius_geist_re_carnegie.pdf

 

this should be required reading by anyone with an interest in wild wolves. wolves only fear people when they have been hunted, essentially.

[bird 9,942]

 

Imagine how many dead bull x's there would be? The wolf has many advantages over a dog thicker skin,bigger teeth, stamina etc

I'm sure I watched a programme that says there bite power was 3 times a GSD.

 

A pointless reintroducing to a over populated small island teeming with cattle and sheep. Only good thing would be they might eat a few idiot antis who want to go see the 'lovely wee Wolves'.

 

very true lab regards a wolf biting power, my dog Buck 1x gsdx grey very strong dog 28in 86lb with very powerful bite on him, but he not in the same league as wolf regards power stamina , which he got loads off , but a wolf more so big timber wolf any dog kangal etc,pit wouldnt last long .