walshie 2,804 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I can't believe no-one has mentioned honey badgers on this thread about wolfs. Reckon you could use honey badgers to ferret wolves? That bloke in the ferreting section trains mink so I see no reason why it isn't possible Sure. I'd give it a go. Could you come round to put the collar on it for me first? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I can't believe no-one has mentioned honey badgers on this thread about wolfs. Reckon you could use honey badgers to ferret wolves? That bloke in the ferreting section trains mink so I see no reason why it isn't possible Sure. I'd give it a go. Could you come round to put the collar on it for me first? Does StrongStuff do honey badger collars? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Gain 1,764 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Wouldn't releasing wolves to roam freely make a bit of a mockery of the legislation that is the Dangerous Dogs Act, unless of course they are neutered and muzzled LOL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Can i have some of what jdhunting is smoking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
air gun ant 1,666 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 when wolves find the wild game running outor excessive numbers of livestock (usually due to humans growing in number) they start on the sheep, then the cattle and horses, then the garbage dumps, then the pet dogs and cats then the big strong dogs then the people. these steps are well documented, read "wolves in russia" or any of hundreds of accounts of wolf predation on humans in india in recent tines. so wolves which are hunting livestock and get chased by guardian dogs are going to act VERY DIFFERENT when they are hunting the guardian dogs................................... wolves have no instinctive fear of humans or dogs, because in evolutionary terms they have not had time to inherit or genetically form these behaviour patterns (humans and dogs have only recently interacted with wolves in evolutionary terms). wolves learn to fear by being hunted, just as they learn other behaviours related to these alien species and in places like alaska and siberia there are wolves which have never seen a man and yet more and more people are nowadays active in these areas. guess what? there are nowadays more and more wolf attacks/incidents. the idea of the benign wolf which wants to live in peace with people was a slightly romantic notion drawn up in the 60s and 70s when north american wolves were at their lowest numbers evr and had been hammered by hunters, trappers, government bounties etc and all that the remaining wolves wanted was to get as far away from these ruthless predators which they had learned to fear as they could. anybody who thinks that wolf reintroductions would work in the uk is fecking insane http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=301866 but evolution is just a myth! So your wrong lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saluki246 1,053 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) beast : and in places like alaska and siberia there are wolves which have never seen a man and yet more and more people are nowadays active in these areas. guess what? there are nowadays more and more wolf attacks/incidents. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, how do you, explain elesmere island then sir ?? As, their are wolves on their, that have also never seen man, but the reserchers that have studied them their, have never been attacked..? Edited October 28, 2015 by Saluki246 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zilverhaze 1,627 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Seen a few wolves in the flesh on a Serbian border traffic backed up for miles cos of deep snow they was about as big as a alasation and in singles not togeather scrounging food of the lorry drivers only Seen 3 like just reminded me of big urban foxes the way they was acting 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,639 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Seen a few wolves in the flesh on a Serbian border traffic backed up for miles cos of deep snow they was about as big as a alasation and in singles not togeather scrounging food of the lorry drivers only Seen 3 like just reminded me of big urban foxes the way they was acting I don't know how accurate it is but there was rumours of a 240 pound wolf shot in Alberta a few years back,there are pics online of it,Alberta had a bounty on them because of farm stock predation,releasing wolves back into the wild on a tiny overcrowded island is impractical and unrealistic,a ticking ecological time bomb waiting for an accident to happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saluki246 1,053 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Bring them back i say............................ Before anyone askes my experinces with them, i spent a part of my life growing up with them on my doorstep when i lived in turkey and i can tell you now, their is places in turkey, where wolves, have never seen a human. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 beast : and in places like alaska and siberia there are wolves which have never seen a man and yet more and more people are nowadays active in these areas. guess what? there are nowadays more and more wolf attacks/incidents. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, how do you, explain elesmere island then sir ?? As, their are wolves on their, that have also never seen man, but the reserchers that have studied them their, have never been attacked..? consider two points, both of which i have touched upon. first, are the prey species running to very low numbers, thus causing the wolves to explore different food sources? secondly, have the wolves been food- habituated to humans, in other words have they been finding human-related food supplies such as livestock or garbage dumps or pets, which cause them to associate humans with food? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Having wolves is ridiculous,would coyote take deer? They'd be a better option imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,708 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 beast : and in places like alaska and siberia there are wolves which have never seen a man and yet more and more people are nowadays active in these areas. guess what? there are nowadays more and more wolf attacks/incidents. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, how do you, explain elesmere island then sir ?? As, their are wolves on their, that have also never seen man, but the reserchers that have studied them their, have never been attacked..? consider two points, both of which i have touched upon. first, are the prey species running to very low numbers, thus causing the wolves to explore different food sources? secondly, have the wolves been food- habituated to humans, in other words have they been finding human-related food supplies such as livestock or garbage dumps or pets, which cause them to associate humans with food? i have a friend in alaska . two years ago a pack of wolves killed 3 kids and the school teacher in a rural school yard , , .my friend says , it is lack of food ... re the sea ice melting early same problem with polar bears , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 7,312 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Just checked timber wolves are around 110lb so a big dog considering it will be in good condition. Ive never seen a 110lb bullx but judging from the 80lbish ones ive seen nothing on planet earth around a similar size would have an easy time with 110lb bullx and a smaller wolf say 70lb wouldnt stand a chance.And 90% of the 80lb bull crosses out there can't even catch and kill an 18lb fox single handed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Release a few then leak to the press of a wolf cull because they spread something or other. Then a few more sources to the press where the shooters are but having previously coralled the wolves into a tidy area let the antis who have followed overhear that a wolf has been shot and is slowly dieing Then sit back open a beer have some popcorn and watch the fun as some antis go in to comfort the poor fluffy wolfy and instead get ripped into pieces. Carlsberg don't do wolf releases but if they did........ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Dr. M. Dawson,Paleontologist ♀ 1977, June 28 Prey-testing agonistic charge Ellesmere Island,Nunavut, Canada Doing field work when they were approached by a pack of six wolves. They tried to drive them off by shouting, waving, and throwing clods of frozen dirt. The wolves were not deterred, and began to circle. The lead wolf leaped at Dawson's face, but Dawson pushed back with her arms and leaned backwards, pushing the wolf to the ground before it could bite her, and the wolves departed, but the strike was close enough for saliva from the wolf's flews to be left on her cheek. Munthe and Hutchinson (1978) interpreted the attack as testing of unfamiliar prey, but noted they didn't know if the wolves had encountered people before. McNay notes that the attack resembled others by wolves which had been fed. did a bit of research and found this example of wolf incident on ellesmere island 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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