mushroom 13,142 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 You need to read a bit mate all predators bite force is relevant to 1. Skull size and shape (muscle anchor points) 2. muscle mass and less importantly 3. the length and shape of the muzzle. So an animal with a skull twice the size of a pit's and a square long muzzle is gonna have a far bigger bite force. For example salt water crocs if you take 10 crocs each a year older than the last. The oldest and biggest is gonna have the bigger bite. A hyena pound for pound has the strongest bite force in the animal kingdon. look at the size of their heads smaller than a lion's but with one important difference... They have a huge anchor ridge for muscles to attache to and pull against which lions don't have. This gives the hyena almost double the jaw power of a fully grown adult male lion So how do you explain smaller Pits having a bigger bite force than larger dogs? A Hyena and Lion are two completely different animals though. Ffs I just did. How about this go do your own proper research Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 You need to read a bit mate all predators bite force is relevant to 1. Skull size and shape (muscle anchor points) 2. muscle mass and less importantly 3. the length and shape of the muzzle. So an animal with a skull twice the size of a pit's and a square long muzzle is gonna have a far bigger bite force. For example salt water crocs if you take 10 crocs each a year older than the last. The oldest and biggest is gonna have the bigger bite. A hyena pound for pound has the strongest bite force in the animal kingdon. look at the size of their heads smaller than a lion's but with one important difference... They have a huge anchor ridge for muscles to attache to and pull against which lions don't have. This gives the hyena almost double the jaw power of a fully grown adult male lion So how do you explain smaller Pits having a bigger bite force than larger dogs? A Hyena and Lion are two completely different animals though. Ffs I just did. How about this go do your own proper research I'm talking about dogs of the same breed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,142 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mate are you on hippy crack or a feckin wind up?? There is no way a smaller pit has a bigger bite force than a larger pit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mate are you on hippy crack or a feckin wind up?? There is no way a smaller pit has a bigger bite force than a larger pit. Think you're wrong there my fellow crack smoker... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 No ones going to get savaged or their bull cross made to look silly.......so relax about the jaw power guys, wolves are not going to be part of the landscape in modern Great Britain any time soon.......;-) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,142 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mate are you on hippy crack or a feckin wind up?? There is no way a smaller pit has a bigger bite force than a larger pit. Think you're wrong there my fellow crack smoker... And I'm out! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Thank feck no one has called them "wolfs" so far on this thread, still time I suppose though. TC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Mate are you on hippy crack or a feckin wind up?? There is no way a smaller pit has a bigger bite force than a larger pit. Think you're wrong there my fellow crack smoker...And I'm out!Cop out ;-) Edited October 27, 2015 by DogFox123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mate are you on hippy crack or a feckin wind up?? There is no way a smaller pit has a bigger bite force than a larger pit. Maximum force potential and actual force applied are two different things 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 So does anyone actually thinks we should be allowing wolfs back here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 personaly being selfish I would but I don't think it would be a good idea tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saluki246 1,053 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Lol.....this documentry below, is great i think. Prehaps they shouldbe kept like this ? Has anyone on here, studied wolves? Know them inside out, like this couple have below, if yes, please come forward. For me, their the ultimate predetor, that needs some respect and understading, before being reintroduced. Watch the documentery below, very good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd3d-9fvp7g 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I can't believe no-one has mentioned honey badgers on this thread about wolfs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 when wolves find the wild game running outor excessive numbers of livestock (usually due to humans growing in number) they start on the sheep, then the cattle and horses, then the garbage dumps, then the pet dogs and cats then the big strong dogs then the people. these steps are well documented, read "wolves in russia" or any of hundreds of accounts of wolf predation on humans in india in recent tines. so wolves which are hunting livestock and get chased by guardian dogs are going to act VERY DIFFERENT when they are hunting the guardian dogs................................... wolves have no instinctive fear of humans or dogs, because in evolutionary terms they have not had time to inherit or genetically form these behaviour patterns (humans and dogs have only recently interacted with wolves in evolutionary terms). wolves learn to fear by being hunted, just as they learn other behaviours related to these alien species and in places like alaska and siberia there are wolves which have never seen a man and yet more and more people are nowadays active in these areas. guess what? there are nowadays more and more wolf attacks/incidents. the idea of the benign wolf which wants to live in peace with people was a slightly romantic notion drawn up in the 60s and 70s when north american wolves were at their lowest numbers evr and had been hammered by hunters, trappers, government bounties etc and all that the remaining wolves wanted was to get as far away from these ruthless predators which they had learned to fear as they could. anybody who thinks that wolf reintroductions would work in the uk is fecking insane http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=301866 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I can't believe no-one has mentioned honey badgers on this thread about wolfs. Reckon you could use honey badgers to ferret wolves? That bloke in the ferreting section trains mink so I see no reason why it isn't possible 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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