General lee 979 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) This is what I say all the time about wolfs and big cats when people say they would just destroy a dog they aren't a brave animal they will give up the fight when it isn't going there way if that was a bull breed or one of those sheep protectors that would have took the fight to those wolfs the wolfs would have runI'd say your wrong there as well. It's not that wolves are lacking in bravery, but as a wild animal they have a healthy self preservation instinct, as a wounded wolf which cannot hunt will starve to death. The thread below shows Serbian pit bulls and Turkish kangals being eaten by wolves. These are European wolves, so a bit smaller that the North American timber wolf, but still plenty big enough. WARNING GRAPHIC PHOTOShttp://carnivoraforum.com/topic/10039802/1/ That said, they are quite happy to fight to the death for territory or breeding rights amongst their own kind. You know the leading cause of death for wolves in Yellowstone park? Other wolves. See what your saying but I think your wrong there mate a pack of wolfs attacking one chained dog isn't the same as one or two wolfs running into one or two dogs like kangols or bulldogs the wolfs are only looking for a meal the dogs would be looking to fight regardless of the injures they will suffer once the wolf realises this the wolf will chuck In the fight and run Edited October 23, 2015 by General lee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 This is what I say all the time about wolfs and big cats when people say they would just destroy a dog they aren't a brave animal they will give up the fight when it isn't going there way if that was a bull breed or one of those sheep protectors that would have took the fight to those wolfs the wolfs would have runI'd say your wrong there as well. It's not that wolves are lacking in bravery, but as a wild animal they have a healthy self preservation instinct, as a wounded wolf which cannot hunt will starve to death. The thread below shows Serbian pit bulls and Turkish kangals being eaten by wolves. These are European wolves, so a bit smaller that the North American timber wolf, but still plenty big enough. WARNING GRAPHIC PHOTOShttp://carnivoraforum.com/topic/10039802/1/ That said, they are quite happy to fight to the death for territory or breeding rights amongst their own kind. You know the leading cause of death for wolves in Yellowstone park? Other wolves. See what your saying but I think your wrong there mate a pack of wolfs attacking one chained dog isn't the same as one or two wolfs running into one or two dogs like kangols or bulldogs the wolfs are only looking for a meal the dogs would be looking to fight regardless of the injures they will suffer once the wolf realises this the wolf will chuck In the fight and runWolves are territorial. They will attack and kill dogs to defend their territory. If their are wolf pups on the ground, this will make them more territorial. Did you not read the link about the group of 4 bear hounds that were attacked by wolves? The kangals were not on chains. The use of livestock protection dogs to defend stock from coyotes is common place in the U.S. These dogs are being killed in ever increasing numbers by wolves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 This is what I say all the time about wolfs and big cats when people say they would just destroy a dog they aren't a brave animal they will give up the fight when it isn't going there way if that was a bull breed or one of those sheep protectors that would have took the fight to those wolfs the wolfs would have runI'd say your wrong there as well. It's not that wolves are lacking in bravery, but as a wild animal they have a healthy self preservation instinct, as a wounded wolf which cannot hunt will starve to death.The thread below shows Serbian pit bulls and Turkish kangals being eaten by wolves. These are European wolves, so a bit smaller that the North American timber wolf, but still plenty big enough. WARNING GRAPHIC PHOTOShttp://carnivoraforum.com/topic/10039802/1/ That said, they are quite happy to fight to the death for territory or breeding rights amongst their own kind. You know the leading cause of death for wolves in Yellowstone park? Other wolves. See what your saying but I think your wrong there mate a pack of wolfs attacking one chained dog isn't the same as one or two wolfs running into one or two dogs like kangols or bulldogs the wolfs are only looking for a meal the dogs would be looking to fight regardless of the injures they will suffer once the wolf realises this the wolf will chuck In the fight and runWolves are territorial. They will attack and kill dogs to defend their territory. If their are wolf pups on the ground, this will make them more territorial. Did you not read the link about the group of 4 bear hounds that were attacked by wolves? The kangals were not on chains. The use of livestock protection dogs to defend stock from coyotes is common place in the U.S. These dogs are being killed in ever increasing numbers by wolves. But they will have been Timber wolves won't they? I think the original vid was in Sweden or Norway so I'm presuming it would have been grey wolves attacking that dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAG1980 116 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Yeah introduce them both to england & france. A pack either side of the euro tunnel would do wonders to deter migrants trying to slip under the noses of the authorites. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Finn 3,014 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Felt for the Laika. Wolves kill dogs, we kill wolves. Nothing has ever changed in the fact. I have some family in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan who raise cattle. The year we allowed some wolves to be hunted they shot more just protecting their calves. Then there are the bear hounds they kill, and various pet dogs they make off with. I think they are amazing creatures, and they are just doing what they do. But, they've driven me out of my favorite hunting spots, and have made everyone who lives near them nervous. Just imagine having your child waiting at the school bus stop and the wolves come running past or eating whatever they have killed in the next driveway? A few years ago I put up a pic of a wolf eating a deer in my friends driveway. It had a DNR tracking collar on it, and they let it run in a neighborhood. ATB Edited October 24, 2015 by Mickey Finn 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ands 544 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 One tough dog , i thought!!! Even with the anti wolf vest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,478 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) There are already wolves in the country in several areas, they are of course in controlled environments and their re-introduction into the wild has been debated over many years. I doubt it will legally happen in my lifetime (or ever) but I suspect the prospect of escapees is very likely. It would certainly be interesting, but to be honest, there are times I get spooked already at night, in the middle of nowhere hearing unfamiliar noises/rustling, the thought that it may be a Wolf would add another dimension. Edited October 24, 2015 by Deker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
General lee 979 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 This is what I say all the time about wolfs and big cats when people say they would just destroy a dog they aren't a brave animal they will give up the fight when it isn't going there way if that was a bull breed or one of those sheep protectors that would have took the fight to those wolfs the wolfs would have runI'd say your wrong there as well. It's not that wolves are lacking in bravery, but as a wild animal they have a healthy self preservation instinct, as a wounded wolf which cannot hunt will starve to death. The thread below shows Serbian pit bulls and Turkish kangals being eaten by wolves. These are European wolves, so a bit smaller that the North American timber wolf, but still plenty big enough. WARNING GRAPHIC PHOTOShttp://carnivoraforum.com/topic/10039802/1/ That said, they are quite happy to fight to the death for territory or breeding rights amongst their own kind. You know the leading cause of death for wolves in Yellowstone park? Other wolves. See what your saying but I think your wrong there mate a pack of wolfs attacking one chained dog isn't the same as one or two wolfs running into one or two dogs like kangols or bulldogs the wolfs are only looking for a meal the dogs would be looking to fight regardless of the injures they will suffer once the wolf realises this the wolf will chuck In the fight and runWolves are territorial. They will attack and kill dogs to defend their territory. If their are wolf pups on the ground, this will make them more territorial. Did you not read the link about the group of 4 bear hounds that were attacked by wolves?The kangals were not on chains. The use of livestock protection dogs to defend stock from coyotes is common place in the U.S. These dogs are being killed in ever increasing numbers by wolves. Yes I read it and I've also seen it before and like I said a pack of wolfs attacking one dog is different to one or two wolfs meeting one or two dogs also the bear dogs are bay type dogs a bull breed is not I don't really want to go down this road again as it always goes the same way with a what's harder debate that is abit childish so I will leave it there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King. 215 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Yes bring them here packham oddie and may can then go out and hand feed them 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Imagine how many dead bull x's there would be? The wolf has many advantages over a dog thicker skin,bigger teeth, stamina etc Edited October 24, 2015 by keepdiggin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King. 215 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 We would end up breeding bull x wolfhound then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonnie bravo 572 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Re-introduction is a bit pointless in my eyes we should be better at looking after and managing what we have. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 They are even thinking about bringing the european brown bear back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Imagine how many dead bull x's there would be? The wolf has many advantages over a dog thicker skin,bigger teeth, stamina etc I'm sure I watched a programme that says there bite power was 3 times a GSD. A pointless reintroducing to a over populated small island teeming with cattle and sheep. Only good thing would be they might eat a few idiot antis who want to go see the 'lovely wee Wolves'. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 People say they will control the red deer population but im sure they would choose an easier option like a cow or a sheep. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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