Leeview 791 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 have you ever been caving or down a pot hole? they are cold even in the summer in that big freeze the dead rabbits were above ground and just skin and bones, they may of starved but most of the trees had been ringed 4' or higher Y.I.S Leeview 1 Quote Link to post
pie-eater 377 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 have you ever been caving or down a pot hole? they are cold even in the summer in that big freeze the dead rabbits were above ground and just skin and bones, they may of starved but most of the trees had been ringed 4' or higher Y.I.S Leeview This is what I mean about insulation, couldn't a cave be cold in summer because its underground and insulated from the heat? I believe a rabbit warren would be cooler underground than the surface temp in summer and warmer underground than the surface temp in winter. That makes sense to me but Ive never taken thermometers ferreting with me so I cant be 100% lol. 1 Quote Link to post
The one 8,459 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Don't know about down south but up here we are just getting the colder nights starting here no sign of frosts yet but I know for sure I wouldn't be giving that guy any more ferrets 4 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 have you ever been caving or down a pot hole? they are cold even in the summer in that big freeze the dead rabbits were above ground and just skin and bones, they may of starved but most of the trees had been ringed 4' or higher Y.I.S Leeview This is what I mean about insulation, couldn't a cave be cold in summer because its underground and insulated from the heat? I believe a rabbit warren would be cooler underground than the surface temp in summer and warmer underground than the surface temp in winter. That makes sense to me but Ive never taken thermometers ferreting with me so I cant be 100% lol.I agree with the insulation theory. I've been caving in summer. And it's cold. I've been caving in winter and it's cold. But not as cold as above ground. I like the thermos flask analogy. Keeps hot hot and cold cold. 2 Quote Link to post
ruggers13 268 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 last season i was digging a rabbit out n it was colder in the tunnels than on top Quote Link to post
pie-eater 377 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 last season i was digging a rabbit out n it was colder in the tunnels than on top I do a fair bit of digging and Ive never noticed it being cold down there. Ask yourself this, if its colder underground why during a cold spell is it only ever the top few inches of soil that freezes? Also worked for a time as a groundworker, used to dig down deep and never taken freezing cold soil out of the holes. 2 Quote Link to post
ruggers13 268 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 it mght be when its damp its more colder when it gets cold this season im going to make sure i check this atb pal 1 Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 The deeper you go, the warmer it gets, until you reach the earth's core, and then it gets real hot. Caves have an entrance and an exit or the cave can't form, there for cold air will drop into them along with cold water and chill them off. Rabbits are not daft, they wont live in cold windy warrens, and rabbits that can survive cold temperatures that a ferret can't? Behave, it's bad enough trying to bolt rabbits into the wind most of the time. 2 Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 have you ever been caving or down a pot hole? they are cold even in the summer in that big freeze the dead rabbits were above ground and just skin and bones, they may of starved but most of the trees had been ringed 4' or higher Y.I.S Leeview This is what I mean about insulation, couldn't a cave be cold in summer because its underground and insulated from the heat? I believe a rabbit warren would be cooler underground than the surface temp in summer and warmer underground than the surface temp in winter. That makes sense to me but Ive never taken thermometers ferreting with me so I cant be 100% lol. OK pie-eater I agree in summer a rabbit warren would be cooler underground ..........in summer so where does the heat come from in the winter when its colder on the surface? Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 The deeper you go, the warmer it gets, until you reach the earth's core, and then it gets real hot. Caves have an entrance and an exit or the cave can't form, there for cold air will drop into them along with cold water and chill them off. Rabbits are not daft, they wont live in cold windy warrens, and rabbits that can survive cold temperatures that a ferret can't? Behave, it's bad enough trying to bolt rabbits into the wind most of the time. The Earth's core is really hot and at least 10,000miles below the surface and thats way beyond any ferret locators capabilities yet Y.I.S Leeview 2 Quote Link to post
pie-eater 377 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) have you ever been caving or down a pot hole? they are cold even in the summer in that big freeze the dead rabbits were above ground and just skin and bones, they may of starved but most of the trees had been ringed 4' or higher Y.I.S Leeview This is what I mean about insulation, couldn't a cave be cold in summer because its underground and insulated from the heat? I believe a rabbit warren would be cooler underground than the surface temp in summer and warmer underground than the surface temp in winter. That makes sense to me but Ive never taken thermometers ferreting with me so I cant be 100% lol. OK pie-eater I agree in summer a rabbit warren would be cooler underground ..........in summer so where does the heat come from in the winter when its colder on the surface? Y.I.S Leeview The temp wont drop as far below ground because its insulated. Lets assume for a second that you are right, if a ferret has the sense to remove bedding from their sleeping box when it gets to warm and put it back when it gets cold do you not think they would have the sense to exit a cold warren before freezing to death? Couple of questions no ones answered. If its colder underground why would rabbits go to ground in the cold weather? And when its freezing why is it only the top few inches of dirt that's frozen? Edited October 15, 2015 by pie-eater Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,005 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 have you ever been caving or down a pot hole? they are cold even in the summer in that big freeze the dead rabbits were above ground and just skin and bones, they may of starved but most of the trees had been ringed 4' or higher Y.I.S Leeview This is what I mean about insulation, couldn't a cave be cold in summer because its underground and insulated from the heat? I believe a rabbit warren would be cooler underground than the surface temp in summer and warmer underground than the surface temp in winter. That makes sense to me but Ive never taken thermometers ferreting with me so I cant be 100% lol. OK pie-eater I agree in summer a rabbit warren would be cooler underground ..........in summer so where does the heat come from in the winter when its colder on the surface?Y.I.S Leeview I doubt it's warm underground,,,I just think it's less cold than above in freezing temps,,,and obviously a number of rabbits sat close to each other is going to warm the imeadate area a little... 1 Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) A healthy, well fed, well looked after, working ferret,..can handle a great deal of abuse/hardship,...(even though he should not have to)... I have worked ferrets from North to South,..but never had one die, just from the cold.... Edited October 15, 2015 by Phil Lloyd 2 Quote Link to post
bhawk 64 Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Personally I've never had a Ferret die from the cold. Plus it is slightly warmer underground due to absorbing the heat from the sun and storing it, there's a method of eco heating that relies on this, by running pipes underground outside and transferring the heat into the house. Quote Link to post
tsteve9999 456 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Pie Eaters right on this one, underground water mains should be buried at least 2 feet below ground for the simple reason the ground in this country never freezes deeper than that. 1 Quote Link to post
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