bird 9,872 Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 The two Hancock dogs i have owned have met my needs and been more than happy with them.But then again they have not been tested to the same degree as some i read about on here.from what i can see he is breeding more and more for the show/pet owners than folk that work them now.But he must get a lot of feed back from the litters he breeds and get a good insight of what they are capable of that a one of mating can never foresee.At the end of the day the bloke at the end of the lead make a big difference to how the dog turn out.The faults in my dogs i blame myself more than the man i got it off.Don,t get me wrong pups from dogs that are doing the job is safer way to go but does not mean you get a dog that is as good as the parents.For him to have been in game for so long there must be a lot of folk over the years that are happy with the dogs they buy of him. its what you say above (tested) is the word, most lurchers of any x where ever it came from, can knock over few rabbits,or take the odd fox/deer/hare/ its when a dog pushed above the odd quarry,and tested alot more is where from what you read about hancock lurchers there left wanting .my mate had 2 from him,1st was big 27in fawn dog 1/4 b/b 3/4 grey male dog,iyt was good on rabbits lamp,not bad on daytime hare,and good on foxes, it died at 7 from cancer , a real good lurcher.2nd dog was a bitch 3/8 b/b 5/8 grey 25in ,was ok on rabbits,but not keen on foxes,and it was a type of dog one day would try,next day wouldnt try he kept it till it died 9 year old,but he never went back there , he bought 1x colliexwhippetx grey, and still got it and it good dog on most stuff. i think with any lurcher x you need luck with the pup you pick,but if the parents have worked and had game, well your in with a fighting chance that your pup (might)be ok . both my 1xs are fair tested Bryn1x colliexgrey bred local by hawcroft off here had loads of rabbits,and is still knocking them over at 8 year old,Buck 1xgsdxgrey bred of here by me1 on here his dam working gsd ,his sire razzmatzz very good greyhound, he ticking all the boxes for me he doing very well. nothing set in stone with any lurcher what ever the x or where it comes from,but if the parents have done a bit,its got to stack things your way i reckon .Out of interest ray what had the parents of both your half crosses done in the field? Bryn dam the greyhound, had been on few times lamping,had few rabbits,and not bad as greys go bit mad headed but most are, his sire was a working farm collie. Buck dam the gsd bitch had been on fair few digs, and bushing foxes alot, the owner father looks after a shoot,and as to control all vermin there so Buck dam worked with terriers quite alot,and bushing rabbits etc , and she guards as well ,as said a proper working gsd very full on bitch but calm with it , Buck sire is very good distance greyhound razzmatazz, good stamina with plenty of prey drive in him, just like Buck is, so the parents of both dogs have seen bit of action , so i was quite happy with that, 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,872 Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Understand what you are saying Ray. The one Hancock dog I got left is out of hector (beardie half cross) and is not keen on fox but puts plenty of edible game in my freezer he hunts like a demon takes feather swims jumps retrieves works of his own bat does what he is told most of the time. My other dog is a beardie cross from good working stock and will tackle anything put in front of him. They both have there good and bad points. For me a full on dog can and has been a liability to me .I am not fussed if my dogs never see another fox if I can not eat it don't see the point in killing it.(not knocking anyone that does).I only take what I can carry and never tested my dogs to the limit. In my book a dog does not have to excel in everything just do the things I want from him . We all differ in what we wont from our keeps and one mans world beater is another mans disappointment. I have not seem any other Hancock working so can only speak from my own experience. fair point that Quote Link to post
MR RABBIT 715 Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Ack when folk go to puppy farmer they usally don't have patients to wait for a litter to come...and don't trust other lurcher men in what breeding is in there pups as they say ....hence Hancock. ..would I have a Hancock no...but each to there own Quote Link to post
Flipper_Al 1,012 Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Understand what you are saying Ray. The one Hancock dog I got left is out of hector (beardie half cross) and is not keen on fox but puts plenty of edible game in my freezer he hunts like a demon takes feather swims jumps retrieves works of his own bat does what he is told most of the time. My other dog is a beardie cross from good working stock and will tackle anything put in front of him. They both have there good and bad points. For me a full on dog can and has been a liability to me .I am not fussed if my dogs never see another fox if I can not eat it don't see the point in killing it.(not knocking anyone that does).I only take what I can carry and never tested my dogs to the limit. In my book a dog does not have to excel in everything just do the things I want from him . We all differ in what we wont from our keeps and one mans world beater is another mans disappointment. I have not seem any other Hancock working so can only speak from my own experience.[/Hector.. I have a half cross out of Hector..by far the brightest dog I have owned, all the training basics were sorted in days, we mooch, she works nose down, there's no expectations.. But she seems to find bits.and I'm happy with that Quote Link to post
VOON 1,317 Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 The two Hancock dogs i have owned have met my needs and been more than happy with them.But then again they have not been tested to the same degree as some i read about on here.from what i can see he is breeding more and more for the show/pet owners than folk that work them now.But he must get a lot of feed back from the litters he breeds and get a good insight of what they are capable of that a one of mating can never foresee.At the end of the day the bloke at the end of the lead make a big difference to how the dog turn out.The faults in my dogs i blame myself more than the man i got it off.Don,t get me wrong pups from dogs that are doing the job is safer way to go but does not mean you get a dog that is as good as the parents.For him to have been in game for so long there must be a lot of folk over the years that are happy with the dogs they buy of him. its what you say above (tested) is the word, most lurchers of any x where ever it came from, can knock over few rabbits,or take the odd fox/deer/hare/ its when a dog pushed above the odd quarry,and tested alot more is where from what you read about hancock lurchers there left wanting .my mate had 2 from him,1st was big 27in fawn dog 1/4 b/b 3/4 grey male dog,iyt was good on rabbits lamp,not bad on daytime hare,and good on foxes, it died at 7 from cancer , a real good lurcher.2nd dog was a bitch 3/8 b/b 5/8 grey 25in ,was ok on rabbits,but not keen on foxes,and it was a type of dog one day would try,next day wouldnt try he kept it till it died 9 year old,but he never went back there , he bought 1x colliexwhippetx grey, and still got it and it good dog on most stuff. i think with any lurcher x you need luck with the pup you pick,but if the parents have worked and had game, well your in with a fighting chance that your pup (might)be ok . both my 1xs are fair tested Bryn1x colliexgrey bred local by hawcroft off here had loads of rabbits,and is still knocking them over at 8 year old,Buck 1xgsdxgrey bred of here by me1 on here his dam working gsd ,his sire razzmatzz very good greyhound, he ticking all the boxes for me he doing very well. nothing set in stone with any lurcher what ever the x or where it comes from,but if the parents have done a bit,its got to stack things your way i reckon .Out of interest ray what had the parents of both your half crosses done in the field? Bryn dam the greyhound, had been on few times lamping,had few rabbits,and not bad as greys go bit mad headed but most are, his sire was a working farm collie. Buck dam the gsd bitch had been on fair few digs, and bushing foxes alot, the owner father looks after a shoot,and as to control all vermin there so Buck dam worked with terriers quite alot,and bushing rabbits etc , and she guards as well ,as said a proper working gsd very full on bitch but calm with it , Buck sire is very good distance greyhound razzmatazz, good stamina with plenty of prey drive in him, just like Buck is, so the parents of both dogs have seen bit of action , so i was quite happy with that, Did you ever see a greyhound x GSD/Collie? Quote Link to post
Poacherspocket 189 Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Id have a hancock dog any day if it was off his older lines that some people have kept going. A few people i know have hancocks older stuff and bred worker to worker since all the pups have stayed local and everything iv heard is good. Iv been working the lad who bred the litters pup and its showing promise. Just seems as though hancocks lost his ways now hes knocking on a bit. Quote Link to post
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 A few people i know have hancocks older stuff and bred worker to worker since all the pups have stayed local and everything iv heard is good.. Best way Quote Link to post
LOL 212 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Didnt hancock breed some 3/4 greyhoud 1/4saluki with help from his mate plummer Quote Link to post
darbo 4,774 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Didnt hancock breed some 3/4 greyhoud 1/4saluki with help from his mate plummer yes a lad from round my area had a dog pup from the litter. Quote Link to post
LOL 212 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Was the dog called jed Quote Link to post
darbo 4,774 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) Was the dog called jed Dont know the dogs name just used to pass the time of day with the owner if i saw him out walking the dogs he also had 3/4 grey 1/4 collie bitches of hancock and if i remember correctly they were stolen from his yard years ago.. Edited October 18, 2015 by darbo Quote Link to post
LOL 212 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 The dog im thinking of belonged to a lad from Doncaster and it Won the asosiation double handed in 1997 Quote Link to post
darbo 4,774 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 The dog was in st.helens different dogs never saw it work a lad i knew said it was ok Quote Link to post
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